September 26, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Bob Hovious
There always seems to be a rash around the end of the fall and spring semesters.
End of semester - final exams -- of the take home variety - would be my guess.
September 26, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Makes sense.
Hope you didn't mind my taking pity on the OP who didn't have a clue about how to do a set-based UPDATE.
You were right to point her to the best-practices article.
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September 26, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Bob Hovious 24601 (9/26/2009)
Makes sense.Hope you didn't mind my taking pity on the OP who didn't have a clue about how to do a set-based UPDATE.
You were right to point her to the best-practices article.
I certainly don't mind helping folks with stuff like that... it's difficult for folks to wrap their head around set-based things. The thing I do have a hard time with is when the question has obvious (sometimes, not so obvious but still there) interview, test, or homework overtones. That's when I break out the tried and true "Show us what you've tried."...
... and I absolutely hate it when someone produces a numbered laundry list of problems that are obviously take-home problems or a test and well meaning folks actually answer all the questions for the OP.
--Jeff Moden
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September 26, 2009 at 7:29 pm
I know what you mean, Jeff. Fortunately in this , the OP came back with their own solution which they were working on while I was answering.
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September 28, 2009 at 9:46 am
Is it just me, or are some of the answers recently not matching up to the questions asked.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic793172-9-1.aspx
What is the point of answering a question with something that needs a question to explain what the supplied answer is.
I know that some of the senior people on this forum, like to encourage free thinking and like the op, to get to the solution with the minimal of help. but sometimes a straight answer can achieve more than assuming that the op has either the time or background to work it out straight away.
If you think I am wrong, let me know, as I feel strongly about helping people get the help they need without them feeling like a complete idiot for not understanding some of the answers they are given.
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September 28, 2009 at 10:00 am
Silverfox (9/28/2009)
Is it just me, or are some of the answers recently not matching up to the questions asked.http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic793172-9-1.aspx
What is the point of answering a question with something that needs a question to explain what the supplied answer is.
I know that some of the senior people on this forum, like to encourage free thinking and like the op, to get to the solution with the minimal of help. but sometimes a straight answer can achieve more than assuming that the op has either the time or background to work it out straight away.
If you think I am wrong, let me know, as I feel strongly about helping people get the help they need without them feeling like a complete idiot for not understanding some of the answers they are given.
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September 28, 2009 at 10:14 am
jcrawf02 (9/28/2009)
Silverfox (9/28/2009)
Is it just me, or are some of the answers recently not matching up to the questions asked.http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic793172-9-1.aspx
What is the point of answering a question with something that needs a question to explain what the supplied answer is.
I know that some of the senior people on this forum, like to encourage free thinking and like the op, to get to the solution with the minimal of help. but sometimes a straight answer can achieve more than assuming that the op has either the time or background to work it out straight away.
If you think I am wrong, let me know, as I feel strongly about helping people get the help they need without them feeling like a complete idiot for not understanding some of the answers they are given.
Purple, because ice cream has no bones
How would you know, I think your ice cream tasting experiences have been limited :-P, havent you heard of crunchy icecream
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September 28, 2009 at 10:26 am
Silverfox (9/28/2009)
Is it just me, or are some of the answers recently not matching up to the questions asked.
I think that's the case in forums in general, isn't it? There was a post on here a while back where somebody said 'the right answer isn't always the popular one, and the popular one isn't always right' which pretty much sums it up for me... I've seen a few threads recently with people all piling in going 'yes yes I agree it's this' when the answer they're agreeing with doesn't actually answer the OPs question at all...
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September 28, 2009 at 10:37 am
I guess my question is: If you see an answer that you think misses the mark, why you don't just go ahead and answer it as you see fit? I've heard it's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.
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September 28, 2009 at 10:43 am
Actually Silverfox, my crunchy ice cream experience aside, I thought this one was an ok answer. At least the OP was supplied with a topic name that would quickly answer the question. True that the example Steve provided probably got the OP a lot farther than the other, but not completely unreasonable.
But that's just my opinion.:-D
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September 28, 2009 at 10:55 am
Bob Hovious 24601 (9/28/2009)
I guess my question is: If you see an answer that you think misses the mark, why you don't just go ahead and answer it as you see fit? I've heard it's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.
I completely agree, but let me point out that THE Thread wouldn't be there if nobody felt the need to say "the questions are getting worse".
Maybe Silverfox wants to say that the answers are getting worse...
I don't think that such a thread would be as succesful as this one, anyway.
Basically, he linked a standard RTFM answer. I got some in the past, and, in my experience, reading it was definitely a good idea.
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September 28, 2009 at 11:21 am
Bob Hovious 24601 (9/28/2009)
I guess my question is: If you see an answer that you think misses the mark, why you don't just go ahead and answer it as you see fit? I've heard it's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.
I prefer to set a bonfire. Makes cooking pork chops that much faster. 😀
--Jeff Moden
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September 28, 2009 at 11:33 am
But I thought the frozen ones hurt more, Jeff. 😛
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September 28, 2009 at 11:39 am
Silverfox (9/28/2009)
Is it just me, or are some of the answers recently not matching up to the questions asked.http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic793172-9-1.aspx
What is the point of answering a question with something that needs a question to explain what the supplied answer is.
Yeah, that one did seem a little bit "under the bar", until Steve chimed in.
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September 28, 2009 at 11:47 am
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