August 17, 2009 at 12:19 pm
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Jeff Moden (8/17/2009)
Heh... yeah, but being the responsible person you are, I'll bet you went back and fixed it as soon as you realized the mistake.He went and posted a full new blog post that basically said 'everything I said in the previous post was wrong'
Dang! Ya just gotta love someone with that type of integrity. Well done, Grant! 🙂
I don't know about integrity, but if I got it wrong, I got it wrong and it needs to be clarified. However, with a bit of help, I did find a partial right answer a few days later and blogged about that too. I wouldn't have gotten the help if I hadn't posted the correction.
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August 17, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Grant Fritchey (8/17/2009)
I don't know about integrity, but if I got it wrong, I got it wrong and it needs to be clarified.
Hmm, something very Zen about this. 🙂
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August 17, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Grant Fritchey (8/17/2009)
I don't know about integrity, but if I got it wrong, I got it wrong and it needs to be clarified. However, with a bit of help, I did find a partial right answer a few days later and blogged about that too. I wouldn't have gotten the help if I hadn't posted the correction.
I guess that's part of what I mean... why wouldn't you correct the original blog?
--Jeff Moden
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August 17, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Jeff Moden (8/17/2009)
Grant Fritchey (8/17/2009)
I don't know about integrity, but if I got it wrong, I got it wrong and it needs to be clarified. However, with a bit of help, I did find a partial right answer a few days later and blogged about that too. I wouldn't have gotten the help if I hadn't posted the correction.I guess that's part of what I mean... why wouldn't you correct the original blog?
There's a link from the original entry - right at the top with some extra detail, if I remember correctly.
The follow-up seems to have enough content for an entry of it's own - maybe it would have been less informative if the original had been amended? I dunno - guess Grant will enlighten us.
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August 18, 2009 at 7:52 am
opinion poll:
Need an XP box for school to fart around with OS settings and IT tech type stuff. Only have a Vista laptop at the moment.
Should I :
1 - partition the hard drive and install XP for the duration of the class, then get rid of it?
2 - get an external USB hard drive and put XP there?
3 - use a virtual machine? (no idea how to do that, but know some of you do)
4 - go to the computer gypsy store and put together a bare bones PC to install XP on?
Which of these is easiest (and cheapest) for a guy who doesn't really know what he's doing yet? Keep in mind that I have a network copy of the OS somewhere in my CD library, so no expense there.
Thanks,
Jon
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August 18, 2009 at 8:03 am
Jon,
download Virtual PC, free from MS. Create a VM (walks you through it), put XP CD in CD drive, capture to VM install. It's actually very simple.
I would recommend an external USB drive for the virtual hard disk. It will help things run quicker.
August 18, 2009 at 8:05 am
I vote for virtual machine!
Sun VirtualBox if possible.
Benefits:
1) No expense
2) You can take snapshots and revert to previous state when something wrong is done (and it will happen...)
3) You can distribite the same exact environment to many computers for testing etc
Sun VirtualBox is the fastest one I have tried so far.
-- Gianluca Sartori
August 18, 2009 at 8:07 am
I'd probably do the Virtual Machine. You can build it once, save a copy of the clean VM off somewhere, mess around and if it gets messed up you just replace the messed up one with the clean VM. Thus, no matter what happens to the VM you only have to build it once.
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August 18, 2009 at 8:16 am
Yup gotta toss another suggestion out there for the VM. One thing to watch out for though... Doesn't matter which one you choose (MS, VMWare, Sun, Citrix) if you build a VM with 2 GB of RAM And you only have 2 GB of RAM on your entire machine, you will be unhappy with the results. Make use of plenty of Physical RAM and provision your VM's according to your needs. If it's just XP to mess with networking and such you shouldn't need that much, but if you're going to be running SQL or Visual Studio or whatnot, make sure you take that into account as well.
-Luke.
August 18, 2009 at 8:19 am
Awesome guys, thanks! 😀
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"stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."
August 18, 2009 at 8:40 am
Another vote for VPC. I assume you only care about 32 bit.
Also note the RAM and external USB comments. Disk can be a bottlneck.
If your .vhd is on a USB drive, it can be portable.
I used to run VPC on my workstation. It was very handy for testing.
Moved up to W2008 with Hyper V at lease replacement time.
A bit of a learning curve, but the ability to run x64 bit and 32 bit VM's is something VPC can't do.
Greg E
August 18, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Jeff Moden (8/17/2009)
Grant Fritchey (8/17/2009)
I don't know about integrity, but if I got it wrong, I got it wrong and it needs to be clarified. However, with a bit of help, I did find a partial right answer a few days later and blogged about that too. I wouldn't have gotten the help if I hadn't posted the correction.I guess that's part of what I mean... why wouldn't you correct the original blog?
First & absolutely most important, it gave me a new blog post. Gotta have new things to blog about. But also, I don't like editing posts too much, especially to completely rewrite them, as it would have required in this case. Instead I just put a link and explanation that, to paraphrase My Cousin Vini, everything I just wrote was BS.
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SQL Server Query Performance Tuning
August 18, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Jeff Moden (8/17/2009)[/b]
I guess that's part of what I mean... why wouldn't you correct the original blog?
I can think of one other reason not to edit the original blog, if there are comments to the effect of "uhh... this doesn't work this way..." with the blog post corrected, those comments are going to be out of place. If there aren't any comments, well, then it's the blog owner's choice, isn't it? 😀
-- Kit
August 18, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Grrr. Another person who seems to think that I should be doing their work for them. ... :angry: My back really hurts right now and I fear that I am losing all patience and perspective ...
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August 18, 2009 at 2:16 pm
RBarryYoung (8/18/2009)
Grrr. Another person who seems to think that I should be doing their work for them. ... :angry: My back really hurts right now and I fear that I am losing all patience and perspective ...
We could amputate.
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