Are the posted questions getting worse?
- jasona.work wrote:
So speaking, of, whatever became of Gail? Did I miss something posted here, or?
nope - she's just not been active - I spoke to alex yates last year and he mentioned that they shared a car somewhere across the USA.. he suggested that she's taken a step back... which is a shame.. without gail, steve and joe celko busting my chops then i'm left with jeff….. not fair.
I've been here since 2001.. nearly 20 years (I've learned nothing in that time) , i wonder how many veterans we still have left???
MVDBA
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and never mind that - i'm still trying to figure out what happened to brad mghee.
MVDBA
- DesNorton wrote:
My apologies. I wanted to Quote Jeff's answer, but accidentally hit the REPORT link instead. Are Admins/Mods able to please undo my error
This was the post (copied from my mail)
To add to what Grant has stated, I have seen some "new" people come in with some answers that are just horrible. When you point out why their answer has an issue and a possible better method (even with coded proof that it is), a lot of them just bail out instead of embracing it as a learning opportunity themselves. It's one of the ways I learned a lot. Post something and have someone post something better even if they call me out directly??? I'm all ears if it involves code.
I have done that myself. It was worse in my case. One of our own just had a baby and it was his announcement post where I hit report. I suggested there should be a second UI element when reporting a post to avoid just such an issue.
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i wonder how many veterans we still have left???
Hmmm ... I can feel a query coming on 🙂
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Please follow Best Practices For Posting On Forums to receive quicker and higher quality responses - MVDBA (Mike Vessey) wrote:jasona.work wrote:
So speaking, of, whatever became of Gail? Did I miss something posted here, or?
nope - she's just not been active - I spoke to alex yates last year and he mentioned that they shared a car somewhere across the USA.. he suggested that she's taken a step back... which is a shame.. without gail, steve and joe celko busting my chops then i'm left with jeff….. not fair.
I've been here since 2001.. nearly 20 years (I've learned nothing in that time) , i wonder how many veterans we still have left???
I haven't been around here for 20 years...at least I don't think so. I don't see anywhere on my profile that says when I created my account. I am not active here like I used to be. For me a large part of it is the new site software was so user hostile that is really soured me. Plus there so many others posting amazing answers so fast there wasn't much space anymore. I first came to this site because I was horrible at all things sql related. And the kind folks here helped me with several questions. Then I became a lurker trying to gain some skills. Eventually being brave enough to try answering some myself. It seems that eventually one or two of my answers didn't get shot full of holes and I gained some confidence (or perhaps I really had learned something). Now I am proudly waving flagbearer of the International Anti-RBAR Confederation. I still come here daily for the QOTD and occasionally jump into a discussion. But mostly I don't spend a lot of time in the forums here these days.
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Argh I hit "report" instead of "quote" on your post Mike, apologies can anyone bring back "3721595"
As for Brad, would also like to know how he's doing, not seen anything on his blog since he left Red-Gate what 7/8 years ago now. His LinkedIn shows he's still where he moved to although given how exceptional he was in the "DBA in Space" video's I wont be surprised if he has a secret acting career now.
- jonathan.crawford wrote:
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Dang it!!! My secret is out now!?!?!?!?!?
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Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/ - Sean Lange wrote:
Now I am proudly waving flagbearer of the International Anti-RBAR Confederation. I still come here daily for the QOTD and occasionally jump into a discussion. But mostly I don't spend a lot of time in the forums here these days.
Oh lord.. will you and jeff get a room 🙂 - I do think QOTD is quite cool though, I never copy and paste into my own server and run the script.. it's always frustrating when you get it wrong... but then you google it and follow the thread on the forum... it was instrumental in my learning curve.
on the delete thing - we've had a few of those today... (in this thread) - maybe Grant or Kendra could just pop over to the webmaster and beat him until we have a "confirm" button after we hit report.
MVDBA
- Sean Lange wrote:MVDBA (Mike Vessey) wrote:jasona.work wrote:
So speaking, of, whatever became of Gail? Did I miss something posted here, or?
nope - she's just not been active - I spoke to alex yates last year and he mentioned that they shared a car somewhere across the USA.. he suggested that she's taken a step back... which is a shame.. without gail, steve and joe celko busting my chops then i'm left with jeff….. not fair.
I've been here since 2001.. nearly 20 years (I've learned nothing in that time) , i wonder how many veterans we still have left???
I haven't been around here for 20 years...at least I don't think so. I don't see anywhere on my profile that says when I created my account. I am not active here like I used to be. For me a large part of it is the new site software was so user hostile that is really soured me. Plus there so many others posting amazing answers so fast there wasn't much space anymore. I first came to this site because I was horrible at all things sql related. And the kind folks here helped me with several questions. Then I became a lurker trying to gain some skills. Eventually being brave enough to try answering some myself. It seems that eventually one or two of my answers didn't get shot full of holes and I gained some confidence (or perhaps I really had learned something). Now I am proudly waving flagbearer of the International Anti-RBAR Confederation. I still come here daily for the QOTD and occasionally jump into a discussion. But mostly I don't spend a lot of time in the forums here these days.
My compliments, Sean, on the phrase "user hostile" describing the site because it's so very precise. It got to the point where posting answers became so difficult and time-consuming that it just wasn't worth it. To have the OP come back and say things are too complicated and demand a one-line answer where there isn't one...what's the point again? It just wasn't worth the struggle.
I've been so busy at work over the past couple of years that I have less and less time. I don't even come for the QOTD any more.
I learned a lot from this site over the years and am forever grateful for it. I, too, got answers shot down in flames and from those, I learned a different way of looking at problems, to consider the edge cases and to slow down. Heck, I got to meet several people in real life that I first met here, including my best friend. What SSC has done for the SQL community over the years is beyond measure.
One day, we'll have to have a meeting of that Anti-RBAR Confederation you spoke about. We'll schedule time to talk about food. 🙂
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On an unrelated topic, I've had a Cheap Trick song stuck in my head all morning because of Grant's editorial today.
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SQL Server Query Performance Tuning - MVDBA (Mike Vessey) wrote:
and never mind that - i'm still trying to figure out what happened to brad mghee.
Brad pulled back as well. This whole MVP grind can be a serious grind. I love it, but I absolutely see how it can burn you out. Especially on the forums. Some days it feels like there are only about 8-10 questions and they just get asked in slightly different language, over and over. Then of course the people who want to play stump the chump to prove they're smarter than an MVP (which, trust me, doesn't take much, depending on the MVP, and I mean me, not picking on others here) which also wears you down. My favorite are the people who walk up, in person, and demand that you be a full-time, unpaid, consultant. These frequently get quite pissy when you tell them that you have a paying gig you have to take care of first. There are also the people you've never met who have decided that you are in fact their long lost mentor. And, unfortunately, for the women, there are a certain, very small, but still far too large, cohort of men who think that they shouldn't be messing around in the men folks realm and should instead be barefoot & pregnant. The female MVPs draw them in like the flies they are.
In short, even in our teeny tiny pond, being a public figure can be tough.
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SQL Server Query Performance Tuning - Ant-Green wrote:
Argh I hit "report" instead of "quote" on your post Mike, apologies can anyone bring back "3721595"
As for Brad, would also like to know how he's doing, not seen anything on his blog since he left Red-Gate what 7/8 years ago now. His LinkedIn shows he's still where he moved to although given how exceptional he was in the "DBA in Space" video's I wont be surprised if he has a secret acting career now.
Got it.
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SQL Server Query Performance Tuning - Grant Fritchey wrote:
This whole MVP grind can be a serious grind. I love it, but I absolutely see how it can burn you out. Especially on the forums. Some days it feels like there are only about 8-10 questions and they just get asked in slightly different language, over and over.
Participation on the forums (MSDN?) is mandatory then to be considered an MVP? (I've never looked into the scheme, to be honest, I'm far too "young" in my SQL Server career for that.)
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