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Neil Burton SSC-Insane Points: 22999 More actions · Answer 1

Sean Lange - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:11 AM
Neil Burton - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:47 AM
I've just had a conversation with our client about the fact that backups weren't being taken on the instance that we provide to them. It's not strictly our problem, that's why we gave them their own instance, but it's making our alerting screens look bad. To defend the chap I spoke to, he's not technical and doesn't pretend to be, he's just pretty switched on and if he doesn't know an answer himself, he knows the person who does.
He told me that they were backing things up, everyday they right-clicked on their databases and generated the scripts like they'd always done :pinch:
Well gosh, there is nothing like a backup....and that is nothing like a backup. 😀

There was a fair bit of confusion at my end when he told me that they were taking backups. I was digging around all over the place trying to work out what we'd missed. I was fully prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. I did not expect him to say that!

On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
—Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher

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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736212 More actions · Answer 2

Neil Burton - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:47 AM
I've just had a conversation with our client about the fact that backups weren't being taken on the instance that we provide to them. It's not strictly our problem, that's why we gave them their own instance, but it's making our alerting screens look bad. To defend the chap I spoke to, he's not technical and doesn't pretend to be, he's just pretty switched on and if he doesn't know an answer himself, he knows the person who does.
He told me that they were backing things up, everyday they right-clicked on their databases and generated the scripts like they'd always done :pinch:

Awww, developers are sooooo cute sometimes.

ZZartin SSC-Dedicated Points: 30920 More actions · Answer 3

Neil Burton - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:47 AM
I've just had a conversation with our client about the fact that backups weren't being taken on the instance that we provide to them. It's not strictly our problem, that's why we gave them their own instance, but it's making our alerting screens look bad. To defend the chap I spoke to, he's not technical and doesn't pretend to be, he's just pretty switched on and if he doesn't know an answer himself, he knows the person who does.
He told me that they were backing things up, everyday they right-clicked on their databases and generated the scripts like they'd always done :pinch:

Well I guess depending on what options they pick in generate scripts it's technically a backup of some kind?

Phil Parkin SSC Guru Points: 246960 More actions · Answer 4

Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:34 AM
Awww, developers are sooooo cute sometimes.

Steve, please explain how you made the leap from "he's not technical" to "he must be a developer" 🙂

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin

Neil Burton SSC-Insane Points: 22999 More actions · Answer 5

Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:34 AM
Awww, developers are sooooo cute sometimes.

He's not a developer either. According to his email sig, he's a 'Management Information & Insight Analyst', which might as well read 'floogle hoogle hargle bargle' for all it tells me. That said, he is pretty good at what he does but what he does is definitely not technical.

On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
—Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher

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rodjkidd SSCoach Points: 15915 More actions · Answer 6

Neil Burton - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:40 AM

Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:34 AM

Neil Burton - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:47 AM
... which might as well read 'floogle hoogle hargle bargle' for all it tells me. That said, he is pretty good at what he does but what he does is definitely not technical.

I might have to use that next time I'm filling out job title for a conference badge. 😀

Rodders...

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736212 More actions · Answer 7

Phil Parkin - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:39 AM
Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:34 AM
Awww, developers are sooooo cute sometimes.
Steve, please explain how you made the leap from "he's not technical" to "he must be a developer" 🙂

Just kidding. That was the type of thing that developers do, back up the scripts for their code and ignore the data. I've seen someone do this, thinking they were building some sort of bacpac instead of a dacpac.

Phil Parkin SSC Guru Points: 246960 More actions · Answer 8

rodjkidd - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 9:27 AM
I might have to use that next time I'm filling out job title for a conference badge. 😀
Rodders...

Just needs a little refinement:
Lead Floogle-Hoogle Hargle-Bargler
Sounds legit. Something to do with NoSQL, I believe.

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin

Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286590 More actions · Answer 9

Phil Parkin - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:40 AM
Just needs a little refinement:
Lead Floogle-Hoogle Hargle-Bargler
Sounds legit. Something to do with NoSQL, I believe.

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004340 More actions · Answer 10

Lynn Pettis - Monday, November 26, 2018 2:36 PM
Well, I have grand kids between 6 and 3 years old, so I get to watch these old shows again. 😀
And I will always love Snoopy and Woodstock!

No... not what I meant. I mostly stopped watching the "Joe Celko" show. 😀

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rodjkidd SSCoach Points: 15915 More actions · Answer 11

Phil Parkin - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:40 AM
rodjkidd - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 9:27 AM
I might have to use that next time I'm filling out job title for a conference badge. 😀
Rodders...
Just needs a little refinement:
Lead Floogle-Hoogle Hargle-Bargler
Sounds legit. Something to do with NoSQL, I believe.

And we have a winner for my SQL Bits badge next year 🙂
Thanks Phil

Rodders...

Neil Burton SSC-Insane Points: 22999 More actions · Answer 12

rodjkidd - Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:48 AM
And we have a winner for my SQL Bits badge next year 🙂
Thanks Phil
Rodders...

Guess who's just changed his registration details 🙂

On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
—Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher

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rodjkidd SSCoach Points: 15915 More actions · Answer 13

Neil Burton - Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:18 AM
Guess who's just changed his registration details 🙂

Neil,
That's now (at least) two Lead Floogle-Hoogle Hargle-Bargler's, we need someone who is either a F-H H-B, or a junior!
Of course we could just say they are back at the office looking after things 🙂

Rodders...

Thomas Rushton SSC-Insane Points: 22649 More actions · Answer 14

rodjkidd - Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:03 AM
Neil,
That's now (at least) two Lead Floogle-Hoogle Hargle-Bargler's, we need someone who is either a F-H H-B, or a junior!
Of course we could just say they are back at the office looking after things 🙂
Rodders...

or a Floogle-Hoogle Hargle-Bargler Herder (gerder?) to keep all the FHHBs in order. 😉

Thomas Rushton
blog: https://thelonedba.wordpress.com

rodjkidd SSCoach Points: 15915 More actions · Answer 15

ThomasRushton - Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:09 AM
or a Floogle-Hoogle Hargle-Bargler Herder (gerder?) to keep all the FHHBs in order. 😉

Thomas,

You just made me actually laugh in the office...
Luckily no one seemed to notice :O

Rodders...