March 2, 2018 at 10:12 am
Sean Lange - Friday, March 2, 2018 9:47 AMLynn Pettis - Friday, March 2, 2018 9:43 AMThey seem to be just asking
random interview or "university" test or certification pretest questions.
Heh... perhaps the corrections to your quote above explains it... 😀
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
March 2, 2018 at 10:34 am
I really wish Mr. Celko would just go away.
March 2, 2018 at 10:39 am
Lynn Pettis - Friday, March 2, 2018 10:34 AMI really wish Mr. Celko would just go away.
I'd ask who he's trolling now, but it doesn't really matter. It's really unfortunate because nobody wants to listen when he berates people.
March 2, 2018 at 10:45 am
Ed Wagner - Friday, March 2, 2018 10:39 AMLynn Pettis - Friday, March 2, 2018 10:34 AMI really wish Mr. Celko would just go away.I'd ask who he's trolling now, but it doesn't really matter. It's really unfortunate because nobody wants to listen when he berates people.
The really sad part is he could be a valuable resource but his online persona is so abrasive and unhelpful.
I have gotten to the point I won't even consider buying any of his books.
March 2, 2018 at 10:51 am
Lynn Pettis - Friday, March 2, 2018 10:45 AMEd Wagner - Friday, March 2, 2018 10:39 AMLynn Pettis - Friday, March 2, 2018 10:34 AMI really wish Mr. Celko would just go away.I'd ask who he's trolling now, but it doesn't really matter. It's really unfortunate because nobody wants to listen when he berates people.
The really sad part is he could be a valuable resource but his online persona is so abrasive and unhelpful.
I have gotten to the point I won't even consider buying any of his books.
Yup, and that applies all the way around. I'm a big believer in experience and he's got loads of it. He's not willing to use it to help others, so I don't know why he bothers posting anywhere. Like I said, it's unfortunate.
March 2, 2018 at 12:14 pm
great... now I'm going to have that song stuck in my head the rest of the day!
March 2, 2018 at 12:16 pm
Sean Lange - Friday, March 2, 2018 9:52 AMLynn Pettis - Friday, March 2, 2018 9:43 AMSheesh looking at another thread it seems they are hopelessly over their head. :crying:
Maybe an accidental DBA? it seems they know enough to know that they don't know enough and need help.
March 2, 2018 at 12:42 pm
Chris Harshman - Friday, March 2, 2018 12:16 PMSean Lange - Friday, March 2, 2018 9:52 AMLynn Pettis - Friday, March 2, 2018 9:43 AMSheesh looking at another thread it seems they are hopelessly over their head. :crying:
Maybe an accidental DBA? it seems they know enough to know that they don't know enough and need help.
We can hope. But it also seems that when provided with a very clear answer they don't get it. If they are an accidental DBA I feel bad for them because they are destined to struggle, or worse.
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March 6, 2018 at 12:54 pm
The query runs fast in SSMS, but in the code it's slow.
Entity Framework. Go figure.
Michael L John
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March 7, 2018 at 12:40 pm
At what point does changing the system in order to get it ready for testing tomorrow morning become not testing properly. 'If we don't run it over Citrix then it works', 'if we use hard coded account details, that solves the problem', 'how about running it on IE instead', none of which will be how it's supposed to be. Never mind though, at least we met the deadline.
Yours truly still has two hours worth of log-shipping to set up when it's decided that it's been botched enough to be ready for 0800 tomorrow. There's an 0500 start to get the replication set up before that. /rant
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March 7, 2018 at 1:11 pm
Lynn Pettis - Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:15 AMWhy do I get the feeling that this person just wants a solution handed to them?
Must be related to this person.
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March 8, 2018 at 7:46 am
Lynn Pettis - Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:15 AMWhy do I get the feeling that this person just wants a solution handed to them?
Somewhat. I get the frustration with someone not having enough information or knowledge and at each suggestion or item they try, they are still missing knowledge and need to backfill. That can be hard, often because someone doesn't know how to start learning.
I think that thread was handled well. Lead them, but ask them to do some work and learn. Don't get frustrated when someone is trying, but venting a bit about finding suggestions that make all sorts of assumptions. We struggle with that here, as authors often write from their point of view, the point where someone has the knowledge. Trying to get them to understand not to skip steps or provide links can be hard.
That OP is frustrated the same way you are with your post, Lynn. They feel they're not getting treated well.
March 8, 2018 at 8:00 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:46 AMLynn Pettis - Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:15 AMWhy do I get the feeling that this person just wants a solution handed to them?Somewhat. I get the frustration with someone not having enough information or knowledge and at each suggestion or item they try, they are still missing knowledge and need to backfill. That can be hard, often because someone doesn't know how to start learning.
I think that thread was handled well. Lead them, but ask them to do some work and learn. Don't get frustrated when someone is trying, but venting a bit about finding suggestions that make all sorts of assumptions. We struggle with that here, as authors often write from their point of view, the point where someone has the knowledge. Trying to get them to understand not to skip steps or provide links can be hard.
That OP is frustrated the same way you are with your post, Lynn. They feel they're not getting treated well.
Last time I had to setup an SFTP solution was around 2007 or 2008 while working at School District 11. Pretty hard to remember that far back. I don't even remember what open source 3rd party product we used, just remember that it didn't handle UNC paths so we had to modify that particular SSIS package directly on the server it ran when changes needed to be made.
Thinking of that, though, I will try to reach out to a friend who still works there.
March 8, 2018 at 8:23 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:46 AMLynn Pettis - Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:15 AMWhy do I get the feeling that this person just wants a solution handed to them?Somewhat. I get the frustration with someone not having enough information or knowledge and at each suggestion or item they try, they are still missing knowledge and need to backfill. That can be hard, often because someone doesn't know how to start learning.
I think that thread was handled well. Lead them, but ask them to do some work and learn. Don't get frustrated when someone is trying, but venting a bit about finding suggestions that make all sorts of assumptions. We struggle with that here, as authors often write from their point of view, the point where someone has the knowledge. Trying to get them to understand not to skip steps or provide links can be hard.
That OP is frustrated the same way you are with your post, Lynn. They feel they're not getting treated well.
In all fairness setting up automated FTP can be incredibly frustrating when it requires anything beyond the most basic FTP tasks. There's a reason there are huge enterprise level solutions for doing nothing but FTP type tasks.
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