February 14, 2018 at 8:15 am
Sean Lange - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:07 AMEd Wagner - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:53 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:29 AMGilaMonster - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:21 AMJeff Moden - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:11 AMThey might not actually have a programming job but have been asked to do something and don't want to tell the boss(es) for fear of being replaced or flat out fired. On the other hand, if they took the job knowing that it required programming, then they did it for just one reason... money, possibly because they couldn't find anything else that they actually liked to do that paid enough.It's really tempting to blast such folks but we don't always know the driving factors. Forum posts normally fall well short of clearly defining what's actually going on.
On the other hand, if someone has certain words like "DBA" or "Engineer" in their forum handle or signature, that changes the perception.
Looking at his older posts, he's a DBA.
(comments like "Not all DBAs are good at T-SQL), (I don't want to be up all night just to kick another script off)I was scared to look but wow. They need to find another line of work. No passion or interest at all...only in collecting the paycheck and doing the bare minimum. Sad.
I remember that name. They're on my official "no not post" list.
Apparently they didn't like be calling out for being super lazy and have deleted all the content from the question and asking Steve to delete it. How do these people get and keep jobs in this field?
The part about getting jobs is simple - they lie on their resume, LinkedIn and everywhere else. It could be that they honestly believe they're awesome, but the Dunning-Kruger effect has to be in play. If not, then they're dishonest and shouldn't be a DBA in the first place. By the time their employer figures out that they don't know what they said they know, it's difficult to fire them.
I believe it was Gail who originally posted something about Dunning-Kruger quite some time ago on this very thread.
February 14, 2018 at 8:16 am
Sean Lange - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:07 AMEd Wagner - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:53 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:29 AMGilaMonster - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:21 AMJeff Moden - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:11 AMThey might not actually have a programming job but have been asked to do something and don't want to tell the boss(es) for fear of being replaced or flat out fired. On the other hand, if they took the job knowing that it required programming, then they did it for just one reason... money, possibly because they couldn't find anything else that they actually liked to do that paid enough.It's really tempting to blast such folks but we don't always know the driving factors. Forum posts normally fall well short of clearly defining what's actually going on.
On the other hand, if someone has certain words like "DBA" or "Engineer" in their forum handle or signature, that changes the perception.
Looking at his older posts, he's a DBA.
(comments like "Not all DBAs are good at T-SQL), (I don't want to be up all night just to kick another script off)I was scared to look but wow. They need to find another line of work. No passion or interest at all...only in collecting the paycheck and doing the bare minimum. Sad.
I remember that name. They're on my official "no not post" list.
Apparently they didn't like be calling out for being super lazy and have deleted all the content from the question and asking Steve to delete it. How do these people get and keep jobs in this field?
By being really good at spinning a line of BS to snow their manager / boss while simultaneously either finding someone who will give them the answer they need or who posted something somewhere that's close enough to their problem that the fix seems to work. Eventually, though, they run into something like the topic under discussion, where people call them out on their BS, and won't give them the answer. Most likely, said poster has probably already put their question on SO or another forum and quite likely will get handed an answer. May not be a *good* answer, but it'll be enough to get them back to the start of my post here (spinning a line.)
They'll just keep wash, rinse, and repeating until they either move out of a technical role at their place of employ or change employers (possibly because the tower of BS finally comes crashing down.) All because, someone, somewhere, will give them their answers...
February 14, 2018 at 8:24 am
Ed Wagner - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:15 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:07 AMEd Wagner - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:53 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:29 AMGilaMonster - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:21 AMJeff Moden - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:11 AMThey might not actually have a programming job but have been asked to do something and don't want to tell the boss(es) for fear of being replaced or flat out fired. On the other hand, if they took the job knowing that it required programming, then they did it for just one reason... money, possibly because they couldn't find anything else that they actually liked to do that paid enough.It's really tempting to blast such folks but we don't always know the driving factors. Forum posts normally fall well short of clearly defining what's actually going on.
On the other hand, if someone has certain words like "DBA" or "Engineer" in their forum handle or signature, that changes the perception.
Looking at his older posts, he's a DBA.
(comments like "Not all DBAs are good at T-SQL), (I don't want to be up all night just to kick another script off)I was scared to look but wow. They need to find another line of work. No passion or interest at all...only in collecting the paycheck and doing the bare minimum. Sad.
I remember that name. They're on my official "no not post" list.
Apparently they didn't like be calling out for being super lazy and have deleted all the content from the question and asking Steve to delete it. How do these people get and keep jobs in this field?
The part about getting jobs is simple - they lie on their resume, LinkedIn and everywhere else. It could be that they honestly believe they're awesome, but the Dunning-Kruger effect has to be in play. If not, then they're dishonest and shouldn't be a DBA in the first place. By the time their employer figures out that they don't know what they said they know, it's difficult to fire them.
I believe it was Gail who originally posted something about Dunning-Kruger quite some time ago on this very thread.
I wonder how many participation awards that guy has?
February 14, 2018 at 8:31 am
ZZartin - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:24 AMEd Wagner - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:15 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:07 AMEd Wagner - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:53 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:29 AMGilaMonster - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:21 AMJeff Moden - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:11 AMThey might not actually have a programming job but have been asked to do something and don't want to tell the boss(es) for fear of being replaced or flat out fired. On the other hand, if they took the job knowing that it required programming, then they did it for just one reason... money, possibly because they couldn't find anything else that they actually liked to do that paid enough.It's really tempting to blast such folks but we don't always know the driving factors. Forum posts normally fall well short of clearly defining what's actually going on.
On the other hand, if someone has certain words like "DBA" or "Engineer" in their forum handle or signature, that changes the perception.
Looking at his older posts, he's a DBA.
(comments like "Not all DBAs are good at T-SQL), (I don't want to be up all night just to kick another script off)I was scared to look but wow. They need to find another line of work. No passion or interest at all...only in collecting the paycheck and doing the bare minimum. Sad.
I remember that name. They're on my official "no not post" list.
Apparently they didn't like be calling out for being super lazy and have deleted all the content from the question and asking Steve to delete it. How do these people get and keep jobs in this field?
The part about getting jobs is simple - they lie on their resume, LinkedIn and everywhere else. It could be that they honestly believe they're awesome, but the Dunning-Kruger effect has to be in play. If not, then they're dishonest and shouldn't be a DBA in the first place. By the time their employer figures out that they don't know what they said they know, it's difficult to fire them.
I believe it was Gail who originally posted something about Dunning-Kruger quite some time ago on this very thread.
I wonder how many participation awards that guy has?
Heh - all of them. After all, he's entitled to one every time he participates. 😛
February 14, 2018 at 8:39 am
Ed Wagner - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:31 AMZZartin - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:24 AMEd Wagner - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:15 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:07 AMEd Wagner - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:53 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:29 AMGilaMonster - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:21 AMJeff Moden - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:11 AMThey might not actually have a programming job but have been asked to do something and don't want to tell the boss(es) for fear of being replaced or flat out fired. On the other hand, if they took the job knowing that it required programming, then they did it for just one reason... money, possibly because they couldn't find anything else that they actually liked to do that paid enough.It's really tempting to blast such folks but we don't always know the driving factors. Forum posts normally fall well short of clearly defining what's actually going on.
On the other hand, if someone has certain words like "DBA" or "Engineer" in their forum handle or signature, that changes the perception.
Looking at his older posts, he's a DBA.
(comments like "Not all DBAs are good at T-SQL), (I don't want to be up all night just to kick another script off)I was scared to look but wow. They need to find another line of work. No passion or interest at all...only in collecting the paycheck and doing the bare minimum. Sad.
I remember that name. They're on my official "no not post" list.
Apparently they didn't like be calling out for being super lazy and have deleted all the content from the question and asking Steve to delete it. How do these people get and keep jobs in this field?
The part about getting jobs is simple - they lie on their resume, LinkedIn and everywhere else. It could be that they honestly believe they're awesome, but the Dunning-Kruger effect has to be in play. If not, then they're dishonest and shouldn't be a DBA in the first place. By the time their employer figures out that they don't know what they said they know, it's difficult to fire them.
I believe it was Gail who originally posted something about Dunning-Kruger quite some time ago on this very thread.
I wonder how many participation awards that guy has?
Heh - all of them. After all, he's entitled to one every time he participates. 😛
Someone should know that one shouldn't ask if one is not going to accept the answer or even better, like others to know one has asked the question😀
😎
I'll think I should tweet this question :hehe:
February 16, 2018 at 3:11 am
Hmm, another interesting tool they've added to SSMS 17.5. SQL Data Discovery and Classification.
Data Discovery & Classification introduces a new tool built into SQL Server Management Studio (SSMS) for discoveringdiscovering, classifyingclassifying, labelinglabeling & reportingreporting the sensitive data in your databases.Discovering and classifying your most sensitive data (business, financial, healthcare, PII, etc.) can play a pivotal role in your organizational information protection stature
Wonder if it was inspired by GDPR to aid people in finding their data.
Thom~
Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
Larnu.uk
February 16, 2018 at 8:48 am
I bet it was. Lots of work being done at MS on GDPR compliance.
February 16, 2018 at 9:03 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Friday, February 16, 2018 8:48 AMI bet it was. Lots of work being done at MS on GDPR compliance.
After testing, it definitely is. 2 of the classifications are "Confidential - GDPR" and "Highly Confidential - GDPR".
Thom~
Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
Larnu.uk
February 16, 2018 at 10:33 am
If anyone has completed their daily cryptic crossword, only to find themselves pining for more puzzlement, take a look at this.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
February 16, 2018 at 11:55 am
Phil Parkin - Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33 AMIf anyone has completed their daily cryptic crossword, only to find themselves pining for more puzzlement, take a look at this.
No, thank you.
February 16, 2018 at 12:35 pm
Luis Cazares - Friday, February 16, 2018 11:55 AMPhil Parkin - Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33 AMIf anyone has completed their daily cryptic crossword, only to find themselves pining for more puzzlement, take a look at this.No, thank you.
It's OK. Joe's jumped in and settled everything :hehe:
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
- Martin Rees
The absence of consumable DDL, sample data and desired results is, however, evidence of the absence of my response
- Phil Parkin
February 16, 2018 at 12:40 pm
Phil Parkin - Friday, February 16, 2018 12:35 PMLuis Cazares - Friday, February 16, 2018 11:55 AMPhil Parkin - Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33 AMIf anyone has completed their daily cryptic crossword, only to find themselves pining for more puzzlement, take a look at this.No, thank you.
It's OK. Joe's jumped in and settled everything :hehe:
let the punishment fit the crime.
February 16, 2018 at 1:19 pm
Phil Parkin - Friday, February 16, 2018 12:35 PMLuis Cazares - Friday, February 16, 2018 11:55 AMPhil Parkin - Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33 AMIf anyone has completed their daily cryptic crossword, only to find themselves pining for more puzzlement, take a look at this.No, thank you.
It's OK. Joe's jumped in and settled everything :hehe:
He was actually not out of line in the least. In fact, his response was probably nicer than mine would have been. The best part of the whole thing is the OP finally came back and said "I guess I could have read the documentation". 😀
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February 16, 2018 at 5:36 pm
Sean Lange - Friday, February 16, 2018 1:19 PMHe was actually not out of line in the least. In fact, his response was probably nicer than mine would have been. The best part of the whole thing is the OP finally came back and said "I guess I could have read the documentation". 😀
so with your comment in mind, he says
I would assume by now you run into Dijkstra and the PV semaphores in your first computer science classes
I just graduated with a BS in Computer Science and I'm pretty sure he's not talking about signaling the battleship with my flags, but I have no frickin' clue what he is referring to? (granted, I didn't graduate from some ivy league school, but still). Is this something I should bother looking into, or is this just Joe being Joe? I've also never converted anything to or from hexadecimal, couldn't code in assembly if my life depended on it, and am not interested in building my own computers, so maybe it's just my perspective.
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February 16, 2018 at 7:03 pm
jonathan.crawford - Friday, February 16, 2018 5:36 PMSean Lange - Friday, February 16, 2018 1:19 PMHe was actually not out of line in the least. In fact, his response was probably nicer than mine would have been. The best part of the whole thing is the OP finally came back and said "I guess I could have read the documentation". 😀so with your comment in mind, he says
I would assume by now you run into Dijkstra and the PV semaphores in your first computer science classes
I just graduated with a BS in Computer Science and I'm pretty sure he's not talking about signaling the battleship with my flags, but I have no frickin' clue what he is referring to? (granted, I didn't graduate from some ivy league school, but still). Is this something I should bother looking into, or is this just Joe being Joe? I've also never converted anything to or from hexadecimal, couldn't code in assembly if my life depended on it, and am not interested in building my own computers, so maybe it's just my perspective.
You got a BS in Computer Science and didn't learn any assembly language? Okay, I learned a little assembly while earning my CS degree, it was VAX-11 assembly and PDP-11 assembly, so I am dating myself some here. I haven't touched it since those classes in the mid 80's except to try and help my daughter who is currently learning MASM (x86/x64) in one of her Cyber classes, and see is working on a Cyber Security degree, not a CS degree (even though her Cyber prof thinks she should go into software development).
Yes, you may want to look up what semaphores are as I can't really remember as it has been a while.
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