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Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • January 10, 2018 at 9:50 am

    #1975335

    I've just got the plain old hammer I made from scratch

  • January 10, 2018 at 10:04 am

    #1975342

    Or this one (courtesy of Lowell)....

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  • January 10, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    #1975368

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

  • January 10, 2018 at 2:09 pm

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    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    That question was asked on Page 1.  The Title of this thread is really not important any more as this is really just a Water Cooler now where many come to talk about many other things.  Take a few months and read the entire thread.  And yes, occasionally we may stray back to the original question but what normal conversations don't?

  • January 10, 2018 at 2:48 pm

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    Lynn Pettis - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:09 PM

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    That question was asked on Page 1.  The Title of this thread is really not important any more as this is really just a Water Cooler now where many come to talk about many other things.  Take a few months and read the entire thread.  And yes, occasionally we may stray back to the original question but what normal conversations don't?

    No complaint. I am glad to see so many people  so relaxed.

  • January 10, 2018 at 3:37 pm

    #1975404

    Lynn Pettis - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:09 PM

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    That question was asked on Page 1.  The Title of this thread is really not important any more as this is really just a Water Cooler now where many come to talk about many other things.  Take a few months and read the entire thread.  And yes, occasionally we may stray back to the original question but what normal conversations don't?

    That said, suggestions are always welcome. We do have voting buttons, but I'm not sure how often people use them. Currently it's only Vote Up, not down.

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  • January 10, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    #1975419

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    The trouble with down-vote or other types of rating buttons (even accepted answer buttons) is that people use them without explaining why something was marked either high or low.  I've seen some incredibly stupid answers (for example) that have 20 up-votes and no explanation.  Likewise, I've seen some incredibly good answers that have been down-voted (obviously at this point, on other forums), again, with no explanation.

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  • January 10, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    #1975421

    Jeff Moden - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:55 PM

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    The trouble with down-vote or other types of rating buttons (even accepted answer buttons) is that people use them without explaining why something was marked either high or low.  I've seen some incredibly stupid answers (for example) that have 20 up-votes and no explanation.  Likewise, I've seen some incredibly good answers that have been down-voted (obviously at this point, on other forums), again, with no explanation.

    Makes sense, you should have to provide an explanation of an up-vote or down-vote on a forum such as this.  Of course, you would probably get something like this: "I like this answer."

  • January 10, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    #1975422

    Jeff Moden - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:55 PM

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    The trouble with down-vote or other types of rating buttons (even accepted answer buttons) is that people use them without explaining why something was marked either high or low.  I've seen some incredibly stupid answers (for example) that have 20 up-votes and no explanation.  Likewise, I've seen some incredibly good answers that have been down-voted (obviously at this point, on other forums), again, with no explanation.

    Life goes on. After all, the purpose of this forum is to share knowledge, not to judge. Post-By-Agonizing-Post.

  • January 10, 2018 at 5:18 pm

    #1975423

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:10 PM

    Jeff Moden - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:55 PM

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    The trouble with down-vote or other types of rating buttons (even accepted answer buttons) is that people use them without explaining why something was marked either high or low.  I've seen some incredibly stupid answers (for example) that have 20 up-votes and no explanation.  Likewise, I've seen some incredibly good answers that have been down-voted (obviously at this point, on other forums), again, with no explanation.

    Life goes on. After all, the purpose of this forum is to share knowledge, not to judge. Post-By-Agonizing-Post.

    There is a difference between judging and providing constructive criticism.

    Of course the premise of the original question on this forum could be seen as a subjective observation of the questions being posted.  What one person may consider questions getting worse could be another's just a simple lack of understanding.  We all try not to judge, least we be judged; but to provide a learning environment.  I will admit, it doesn't always seem to go as planned.

  • January 10, 2018 at 5:19 pm

    #1975424

    Well, got to go, our SQL Server Users Group is having a directors meeting tonight. Pretty sure SQLSaturday700 will be one of the topics.

  • January 11, 2018 at 7:33 am

    #1975495

    Jeff Moden - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:55 PM

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    The trouble with down-vote or other types of rating buttons (even accepted answer buttons) is that people use them without explaining why something was marked either high or low.  I've seen some incredibly stupid answers (for example) that have 20 up-votes and no explanation.  Likewise, I've seen some incredibly good answers that have been down-voted (obviously at this point, on other forums), again, with no explanation.

    Personally, I don't like the up-vote/down-vote.  There are some posts that are just excellent, but there is obvious abuse and there always will be with any online voting system.

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  • January 11, 2018 at 7:38 am

    #1975498

    Jeff Moden - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:55 PM

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    The trouble with down-vote or other types of rating buttons (even accepted answer buttons) is that people use them without explaining why something was marked either high or low.  I've seen some incredibly stupid answers (for example) that have 20 up-votes and no explanation.  Likewise, I've seen some incredibly good answers that have been down-voted (obviously at this point, on other forums), again, with no explanation.

    hehe like your response. I was able to upvote it but not provide any feedback. 🙂

    _______________________________________________________________

    Need help? Help us help you.

    Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

    Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

  • January 11, 2018 at 7:45 am

    #1975502

    Ed Wagner - Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:33 AM

    Jeff Moden - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:55 PM

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    The trouble with down-vote or other types of rating buttons (even accepted answer buttons) is that people use them without explaining why something was marked either high or low.  I've seen some incredibly stupid answers (for example) that have 20 up-votes and no explanation.  Likewise, I've seen some incredibly good answers that have been down-voted (obviously at this point, on other forums), again, with no explanation.

    Personally, I don't like the up-vote/down-vote.  There are some posts that are just excellent, but there is obvious abuse and there always will be with any online voting system.

    If SSC did want to do a vote up/down function as well, the bot issues need to be fixed first. I'm confident in saying that the majority of "points" that the more regular users get are from likes on their psots, which code be wrong ages ago. Have a look, for example, at just a snippet of my activities on 2017014:

    Some of those post I made 2/3 years ago and have 50 odd likes (as does most of the other posts in the topic). If down voting was an option as well, things would probably go "crazy".

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  • January 11, 2018 at 8:01 am

    #1975508

    Ed Wagner - Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:33 AM

    Jeff Moden - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:55 PM

    RandomStream - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:38 PM

    Up to this point, you gurus are complaining 'Are the posted questions getting worse?'?

    I suggest that we add Downvote button for both questions and answers, like on AskQuora.

    The trouble with down-vote or other types of rating buttons (even accepted answer buttons) is that people use them without explaining why something was marked either high or low.  I've seen some incredibly stupid answers (for example) that have 20 up-votes and no explanation.  Likewise, I've seen some incredibly good answers that have been down-voted (obviously at this point, on other forums), again, with no explanation.

    Personally, I don't like the up-vote/down-vote.  There are some posts that are just excellent, but there is obvious abuse and there always will be with any online voting system.

    I'm not a fan of visible vote counts on individual posts or on users, what I am a huge fan of is the ability for users to bury posts with enough down votes.  For example certain users who consistently might post outdated irrelevant information with no value to the original question might be less visible 😀

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