Are the posted questions getting worse?

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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736212 More actions · Answer 1

Thom A - Tuesday, January 9, 2018 7:24 AM
Heh, I called up and Application's Support Desk yesterday, as I saw that the patches for SUSE were out (thanks Steve!). The Servers the Applications are hosted on are "sealed" units ( well they're VMs now, but we don't have access to the OS), so I thought I'd ask what they're plans were for patching the Servers, and if the TRIPOS Host also needs to be updated. The server's have access to the outside world, so we'd like to ensure that they're covered.

Good luck and hope patching goes smooth. My W10 desktop says unpacked from PoSh, but the patch says installed.

Thom A SSC Guru Points: 99130 More actions · Answer 2

Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, January 9, 2018 4:52 PM
Thom A - Tuesday, January 9, 2018 7:24 AM
Heh, I called up and Application's Support Desk yesterday, as I saw that the patches for SUSE were out (thanks Steve!). The Servers the Applications are hosted on are "sealed" units ( well they're VMs now, but we don't have access to the OS), so I thought I'd ask what they're plans were for patching the Servers, and if the TRIPOS Host also needs to be updated. The server's have access to the outside world, so we'd like to ensure that they're covered.
Good luck and hope patching goes smooth. My W10 desktop says unpacked from PoSh, but the patch says installed.

Thanks Steve. Seems they still don't really know what it's all about. When i called they told me "The next application version is finished, and should be patch out next month." When I asked about this Linux host, they asked "What about it?". Considering they're a software warehouse, it's concerning that they have no idea about either of these vulnerabilities! ARGH!

Anyone, by the way, know if we need to patch our Bash on Ubuntu on Windows Container (via apt(?)), or does Windows do that/covers it in it's own patch.

Thom~

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 3

"Hello random problem, please try this hammer."

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004340 More actions · Answer 4

GilaMonster - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:49 AM
"Hello random problem, please try this hammer."

Hopefully, not this one. 😉

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Luis Cazares SSC Guru Points: 183706 More actions · Answer 5

Jeff Moden - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:10 AM
GilaMonster - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:49 AM
"Hello random problem, please try this hammer."
Hopefully, not this one. 😉

More like this one:

Luis C.
General Disclaimer:
Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help: Option 1 / Option 2

Thom A SSC Guru Points: 99130 More actions · Answer 6

Luis Cazares - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:33 AM
More like this one:

That's not going to help, Luis! The idea of a hammer is to break things... If i hit the server with that it's not going to break (aka fix) anything. 😛

Thom~

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Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398882 More actions · Answer 7

If we're going to use a hammer, may as well make it a good one.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt

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Neil Burton SSC-Insane Points: 22999 More actions · Answer 8

Grant Fritchey - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:47 AM
If we're going to use a hammer, may as well make it a good one.

That's not a hammer... This is a hammer

Image result for steamhammer

On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
—Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher

How to post a question to get the most help http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537

Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398882 More actions · Answer 9

Neil Burton - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:48 AM
That's not a hammer... This is a hammer

So long as it's you carrying it and not me, fine.

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Hugo Kornelis SSC Guru Points: 64790 More actions · Answer 10

Grant Fritchey - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:51 AM
Neil Burton - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:48 AM
That's not a hammer... This is a hammer
So long as it's you carrying it and not me, fine.

MC Hammer (cropped).jpg

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Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287026 More actions · Answer 11

Grant Fritchey - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:47 AM
If we're going to use a hammer, may as well make it a good one.

That's cool-looking. Do you do practice middle age warfare in your spare time?

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ZZartin SSC-Dedicated Points: 30920 More actions · Answer 12

Ed Wagner - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:36 AM
Grant Fritchey - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:47 AM
If we're going to use a hammer, may as well make it a good one.
That's cool-looking. Do you do practice middle age warfare in your spare time?

That looks like it does a little more than practice 😛

Luis Cazares SSC Guru Points: 183706 More actions · Answer 13

Thom A - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:44 AM

Luis Cazares - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:33 AM

More like this one:

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That's not going to help, Luis! The idea of a hammer is to break things... If i hit the server with that it's not going to break (aka fix) anything. 😛

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That's just for safety. It acts as a placebo. It's like letting small kids "play" video games with an unplugged controller.
To ~~break~~ fix things, we need to use the only the worthy can wield.

Luis C.
General Disclaimer:
Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help: Option 1 / Option 2

Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398882 More actions · Answer 14

Ed Wagner - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:36 AM
Grant Fritchey - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:47 AM
If we're going to use a hammer, may as well make it a good one.
That's cool-looking. Do you do practice middle age warfare in your spare time?

Actually.... yes. But not like I used to.

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Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398882 More actions · Answer 15

ZZartin - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:39 AM
Ed Wagner - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:36 AM
Grant Fritchey - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:47 AM
If we're going to use a hammer, may as well make it a good one.
That's cool-looking. Do you do practice middle age warfare in your spare time?
That looks like it does a little more than practice 😛

Tomato, Tomahto.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt

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