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Florian Reischl SSC-Dedicated Points: 37301 More actions · Answer 1

Jeff Moden (6/21/2009)
Heh... ok... that might be useful for some of the things I'd like to do... how did you do that?

You can quote my post to see the magic, but it's quiet simple, you can use a HTML iframe. I just wrote:

The "Blah" is not required. Give me a hint when you used first time 😀

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004340 More actions · Answer 2

Florian Reischl (6/21/2009)
You can quote my post to see the magic,...

Heh... of course! More coffee please! 😛 Thanks Flo.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004340 More actions · Answer 3

I absolutely have to laugh everytime I see something like the following:

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic735302-147-1.aspx

What's up with that? I thought all this GUI garbage was supposed to make life easier for people who don't actually know how to write T-SQL. 😛

Flo... what would be the German translation for "GUI garbage"?

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Florian Reischl SSC-Dedicated Points: 37301 More actions · Answer 4

Jeff Moden (6/21/2009)
Flo... what would be the German translation for "GUI garbage"?

"GUI Müll"

or - if you don't find an "ü" on your keyboard

"GUI Schrott"

😉

LutzM SSC Guru Points: 107049 More actions · Answer 5

As another German around I'd have to -slightly- disagree with Flo.

"GUI" actually is not really German (Graphical User Interface, right?) 😀

So it would be something like "Bildlicher-Benutzer-Oberflaechen-Unsinn", or "BBO-Quatsch". whereas the translation of garbage is used in the meaning of nonsense.

Germans tend to "germanize" a lot of english terms especially in IT, so you'd find Flo's translation during discussions in German. This language is called "Denglisch" as a mixture of Deutsch (German) and English.

Since there are a few people around here in G who don't really speak English but work in IT they sometimes come up with really nice word mixtures.

One of the best I've heard so far was "GUI-isierung" (engl.: GUI-anization) for developing the screens of a frontend app....

Edit: typo fixed

Lutz
A pessimist is an optimist with experience.

How to get fast answers to your question[/url]
How to post performance related questions[/url]
Links for Tally Table [/url] , Cross Tabs [/url] and Dynamic Cross Tabs [/url], Delimited Split Function[/url]

Florian Reischl SSC-Dedicated Points: 37301 More actions · Answer 6

lmu92 (6/21/2009)
"GUI" actually is not really German (Graphical User Interface, right?) 😀

Since "User" and "Interface" are both found in Duden (German dictionary) you can translate it as

"Graphisches User Interface"

or

"Graphische User Interaktionsoberfläche" (interaction surface)

:laugh:

So it would be something like "Bildlicher-Benutzer-Oberflaechen-Unsinn", or "BBO-Quatsch". whereas the translation of garbage is used in the meaning of nonsense.

ROFL. Never heard BBO before. I have to use this word in my office! 😀

Edit: Typo...

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004340 More actions · Answer 7

lmu92 (6/21/2009)
"BBO-Quatsch"

BWAA-HAAA-HAAA!!!! When I first saw that, I thought, "BBQ Sasquatch - the ultimate pork chop!"

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Paul White SSC Guru Points: 150467 More actions · Answer 8

Florian Reischl (6/21/2009)
{EBAY}

:sick:

A better site

FTFY 😀

edit: fixed that for me 😎

Paul White
SQLPerformance.com
SQLkiwi blog
@SQL_Kiwi

Paul White SSC Guru Points: 150467 More actions · Answer 9

Jeff Moden (6/21/2009)
Heh... you need a better hobby. 😛 (Me too! Look who's replying :hehe:)
I agree... the word "Quirky" leaves a lot to be desired... I prefer the term Pseudo-Cursor (first heard the term from Barry... I used to call them "set based loops") especially because the cursor-zealots like to argue about it and especially because they usually don't have a clue as to what "set based" actually means. The article I wrote on triangular joins is because of such zealots (and even some non-zealots) claiming that cursors are better than set-based for "certain things". Heh... in fact, now that I think about it, most of my articles are aimed squarely at the heads of cursor-zealots... 😀

I blame this site. Far too much interesting and intriguing stuff comes up on a regular basis. Thank goodness for internet access at work 🙂

Set-based loop if better (to my mind) but I guess I still have trouble with having to make a distinction. It's not really any less of a set operation than anything else. No-one makes the distinction between nested loop plans and hash/merge joins in this way, so why pick on the 'holding variable'? It's a perfectly valid set operation IMNSHO.

I love it here.

Paul

Paul White
SQLPerformance.com
SQLkiwi blog
@SQL_Kiwi

Florian Reischl SSC-Dedicated Points: 37301 More actions · Answer 10

Paul White (6/21/2009)
Florian Reischl (6/21/2009)
{EBAY}
A better site
edit: fixed that for me 😎

Maybe you should fix your fix to 😉

A better site

Try your link and mine 😎

LutzM SSC Guru Points: 107049 More actions · Answer 11

For our non-German fellows: Duden has nothing to do with "Dude", it actually is a dictionary that contains all the words that are supposed to be part of the German language - and, as Flo just told us, obviously more than that. 😉

Duden isn't the same anymore as it was in the past... :crying:

I just made the "BBO" stuff up, but feel free to use it, Flo (or anybody else who like to do it - it may end up in Duden as well 😀 ).

@jeff: if we change "BBO-Quatsch" slightly it becomes something like "BBQ-catch". 🙂

Lutz
A pessimist is an optimist with experience.

How to get fast answers to your question[/url]
How to post performance related questions[/url]
Links for Tally Table [/url] , Cross Tabs [/url] and Dynamic Cross Tabs [/url], Delimited Split Function[/url]

Paul White SSC Guru Points: 150467 More actions · Answer 12

Florian Reischl (6/21/2009)
Try your link and mine 😎

Just one more reason why database people^* shouldn't mess with iframes I guess :blush:

I still don't understand what was wrong with that - please enlighten me!

It rendered just fine in Chrome, but when I tried it in Firefox, the THREAD redirected to the trademe home page. Spooky? According to 'lmu92' it did the same thing in IE.

Paul

^* Or me at least

Paul White
SQLPerformance.com
SQLkiwi blog
@SQL_Kiwi

Florian Reischl SSC-Dedicated Points: 37301 More actions · Answer 13

Paul White (6/21/2009)
I still don't understand what was wrong with that - please enlighten me!

You wrote url http://www.trademe.co.nz/ but a correct url requires the http://www.trademe.co.nz/

BTW: I chose for you. I thought you're working for them.

Paul White SSC Guru Points: 150467 More actions · Answer 14

Florian Reischl (6/21/2009)
Paul White (6/21/2009)
I still don't understand what was wrong with that - please enlighten me!
You wrote url http://www.trademe.co.nz/ but a correct url requires the http://www.trademe.co.nz/
BTW: I chose for you. I thought you're working for them.

Heh. Yeah.

Sorry I wasn't clear: the url fix was just my normal mistake of forgetting the http:// as you say.

Originally, I posted an iframe (copied from yours) changing eBay to TradeMe. This had the odd side effect of redirecting anyone viewing The Thread to our home page - but only in FireFox and IE - Chrome displayed both iframes (yours and mine) correctly - which is why I didn't pick it up straight away.

'lmu92' sent me a few PMs about it! So I removed the iframe and replaced it with the (borken) url which you fixed.

Sigh.

Paul

Paul White
SQLPerformance.com
SQLkiwi blog
@SQL_Kiwi

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004340 More actions · Answer 15

Paul White (6/21/2009)
Set-based loop if better (to my mind) but I guess I still have trouble with having to make a distinction. It's not really any less of a set operation than anything else. No-one makes the distinction between nested loop plans and hash/merge joins in this way, so why pick on the 'holding variable'? It's a perfectly valid set operation IMNSHO.

Do you have a link to the post for the "holding variable"? I want to see what you're talking about before I respond...

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)