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  • April 24, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    #1939633

    Thom A - Monday, April 24, 2017 7:18 AM

    Sorry to disappoint you Brandie, but going for something "on topic" too.

    I'm considering doing the Microsoft Certifications sometimes in the "near" future, and wanted to check if people feel that they are worth the time. Also, unsure where is best to start. Is it best to start at MTA anyway, or is there any problems with starting higher (does, say MCSA, have MTA as a prerequisite)? MTA does seem to be the "entry" level, and personally feel my skills are above that, but I also don't know what to expect at each level.

    Any sweeping statements are welcomed, I'm not looking an essay answer, just a little guidance. 🙂

    Thanks guys/gals!

    I look at certifications as one leg on a four legged stool:
    --Experience
    --Education
    --Certification
    --Community (blog, forum activity, speaking, etc.)

    Any one of them alone isn't sufficient to stand on its own.  For example, if all you have is a degree I can't tell if you have any practical experience.  But if you have a degree and 3 years experience, there must be at least a little something to it.  The more legs on your stool and the longer they are, the better off you are.  I think you could benefit from certification.  A potential employer could look at 3.5 years on your resume and wonder if it was 3.5 years working with SQL every day, or was it just incidental contact with the database?  Is it 3.5 years of doing the same thing every day, or 3.5 years of handling a variety of issues and you know the server very well?  Since the certification covers a broad spectrum of topics, if you are able to obtain it it, it will lend credibility and depth to your experience and gives a potential employer more information about what you are capable of doing.  Plus, if you're up against someone else who also has 3.5 years experience, you'll win the coin toss :-).

    I personally use certifications as a forced study program.  It keeps me up to date and stems the leakage of information out of my head.  I also have an employer who cares about continual improvement and progression, so it helps validate my progress there too.

    Chad

    PS - I should note that I have run into people who think that certifications are worthless and the only people who get them are those who can't prove their skill in any other way.  I am most definitely not in that camp and we agreed to disagree on that point, but you should know that the opinion does exist should you run into it somewhere.  When I run into someone like that (which is rare), I shrug and tell them to test me themselves.

  • April 24, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    #1939638

    Chad Crawford - Monday, April 24, 2017 1:20 PM

    I look at certifications as one leg on a four legged stool:
    --Experience
    --Education
    --Certification
    --Community (blog, forum activity, speaking, etc.)

    Any one of them alone isn't sufficient to stand on its own.  For example, if all you have is a degree I can't tell if you have any practical experience.  But if you have a degree and 3 years experience, there must be at least a little something to it.  The more legs on your stool and the longer they are, the better off you are.  I think you could benefit from certification.  A potential employer could look at 3.5 years on your resume and wonder if it was 3.5 years working with SQL every day, or was it just incidental contact with the database?  Is it 3.5 years of doing the same thing every day, or 3.5 years of handling a variety of issues and you know the server very well?  Since the certification covers a broad spectrum of topics, if you are able to obtain it it, it will lend credibility and depth to your experience and gives a potential employer more information about what you are capable of doing.  Plus, if you're up against someone else who also has 3.5 years experience, you'll win the coin toss :-).

    I personally use certifications as a forced study program.  It keeps me up to date and stems the leakage of information out of my head.  I also have an employer who cares about continual improvement and progression, so it helps validate my progress there too.

    Chad

    PS - I should note that I have run into people who think that certifications are worthless and the only people who get them are those who can't prove their skill in any other way.  I am most definitely not in that camp and we agreed to disagree on that point, but you should know that the opinion does exist should you run into it somewhere.  When I run into someone like that (which is rare), I shrug and tell them to test me themselves.

    I think my stool would be extremely unstable and slightly lacking in legs 🙂

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  • April 24, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    #1939641

    Chad Crawford - Monday, April 24, 2017 1:20 PM

    Thom A - Monday, April 24, 2017 7:18 AM

    Sorry to disappoint you Brandie, but going for something "on topic" too.

    I'm considering doing the Microsoft Certifications sometimes in the "near" future, and wanted to check if people feel that they are worth the time. Also, unsure where is best to start. Is it best to start at MTA anyway, or is there any problems with starting higher (does, say MCSA, have MTA as a prerequisite)? MTA does seem to be the "entry" level, and personally feel my skills are above that, but I also don't know what to expect at each level.

    Any sweeping statements are welcomed, I'm not looking an essay answer, just a little guidance. 🙂

    Thanks guys/gals!

    I look at certifications as one leg on a four legged stool:
    --Experience
    --Education
    --Certification
    --Community (blog, forum activity, speaking, etc.)

    Any one of them alone isn't sufficient to stand on its own.  For example, if all you have is a degree I can't tell if you have any practical experience.  But if you have a degree and 3 years experience, there must be at least a little something to it.  The more legs on your stool and the longer they are, the better off you are.  I think you could benefit from certification.  A potential employer could look at 3.5 years on your resume and wonder if it was 3.5 years working with SQL every day, or was it just incidental contact with the database?  Is it 3.5 years of doing the same thing every day, or 3.5 years of handling a variety of issues and you know the server very well?  Since the certification covers a broad spectrum of topics, if you are able to obtain it it, it will lend credibility and depth to your experience and gives a potential employer more information about what you are capable of doing.  Plus, if you're up against someone else who also has 3.5 years experience, you'll win the coin toss :-).

    I personally use certifications as a forced study program.  It keeps me up to date and stems the leakage of information out of my head.  I also have an employer who cares about continual improvement and progression, so it helps validate my progress there too.

    Chad

    PS - I should note that I have run into people who think that certifications are worthless and the only people who get them are those who can't prove their skill in any other way.  I am most definitely not in that camp and we agreed to disagree on that point, but you should know that the opinion does exist should you run into it somewhere.  When I run into someone like that (which is rare), I shrug and tell them to test me themselves.

    Well, a stable stool only needs three legs, and I think I have three of those covered.  I just don't have any certifications.

  • April 24, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    #1939646

    Chad Crawford - Monday, April 24, 2017 1:20 PM

    Thom A - Monday, April 24, 2017 7:18 AM

    Sorry to disappoint you Brandie, but going for something "on topic" too.

    I'm considering doing the Microsoft Certifications sometimes in the "near" future, and wanted to check if people feel that they are worth the time. Also, unsure where is best to start. Is it best to start at MTA anyway, or is there any problems with starting higher (does, say MCSA, have MTA as a prerequisite)? MTA does seem to be the "entry" level, and personally feel my skills are above that, but I also don't know what to expect at each level.

    Any sweeping statements are welcomed, I'm not looking an essay answer, just a little guidance. 🙂

    Thanks guys/gals!

    I look at certifications as one leg on a four legged stool:
    --Experience
    --Education
    --Certification
    --Community (blog, forum activity, speaking, etc.)

    Any one of them alone isn't sufficient to stand on its own.  For example, if all you have is a degree I can't tell if you have any practical experience.  But if you have a degree and 3 years experience, there must be at least a little something to it.  The more legs on your stool and the longer they are, the better off you are.  I think you could benefit from certification.  A potential employer could look at 3.5 years on your resume and wonder if it was 3.5 years working with SQL every day, or was it just incidental contact with the database?  Is it 3.5 years of doing the same thing every day, or 3.5 years of handling a variety of issues and you know the server very well?  Since the certification covers a broad spectrum of topics, if you are able to obtain it it, it will lend credibility and depth to your experience and gives a potential employer more information about what you are capable of doing.  Plus, if you're up against someone else who also has 3.5 years experience, you'll win the coin toss :-).

    I personally use certifications as a forced study program.  It keeps me up to date and stems the leakage of information out of my head.  I also have an employer who cares about continual improvement and progression, so it helps validate my progress there too.

    Chad

    PS - I should note that I have run into people who think that certifications are worthless and the only people who get them are those who can't prove their skill in any other way.  I am most definitely not in that camp and we agreed to disagree on that point, but you should know that the opinion does exist should you run into it somewhere.  When I run into someone like that (which is rare), I shrug and tell them to test me themselves.

    As someone who has worked with SQL Server as a DBA for the past 5 years (more in the field I am in, but not with the "DBA" job title), the MTA certificate was pretty easy to get.  I got that one last year and it has not helped me at all with my current job.  I was hoping that my employeer would see it and bump my wage up due to the extra skill I had gained, but it didn't do much except make me feel good.

    I am glad I got the MTA, mostly so I can say with confidence to my current and future employeer that I do have certification in Database Fundamentals, but I spent more time talking to the auditor to make sure I didn't cheat and cleaning up the room I was in (unplugging my TV for example) to prove I wasn't cheating than I did writing the test.
    Working towards my MCSA (2012/2014) now and have completed a test prep for the first exam but I am doing it more for myself than for my job this time.  I am even debating on if it is worth the time and effort to try to expense it...
    The other thing, with those 4 legs, when I started as a DBA, I had only the first one and it was a very short leg.  Now I am only missing the "Education" one but I think Certification can ALMOST fall under that one, no?  I haven't gotten to the speaking or blogging part of Community, but I have a lot of forum activity AND I started up a PASS Chapter in my home town.  Still pretty small (getting 3 to 5 people per meeting), but we are growing.

    Also, to poke at Lynn's comment, a 1 to 2 legged stool can be mostly stable if the leg is short enough.  It will just wobble a little.

    The above is all just my opinion on what you should do. 
    As with all advice you find on a random internet forum - you shouldn't blindly follow it.  Always test on a test server to see if there is negative side effects before making changes to live!
    I recommend you NEVER run "random code" you found online on any system you care about UNLESS you understand and can verify the code OR you don't care if the code trashes your system.

  • April 24, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    #1939650

    bmg002 - Monday, April 24, 2017 2:04 PM

    Chad Crawford - Monday, April 24, 2017 1:20 PM

    Thom A - Monday, April 24, 2017 7:18 AM

    Sorry to disappoint you Brandie, but going for something "on topic" too.

    I'm considering doing the Microsoft Certifications sometimes in the "near" future, and wanted to check if people feel that they are worth the time. Also, unsure where is best to start. Is it best to start at MTA anyway, or is there any problems with starting higher (does, say MCSA, have MTA as a prerequisite)? MTA does seem to be the "entry" level, and personally feel my skills are above that, but I also don't know what to expect at each level.

    Any sweeping statements are welcomed, I'm not looking an essay answer, just a little guidance. 🙂

    Thanks guys/gals!

    I look at certifications as one leg on a four legged stool:
    --Experience
    --Education
    --Certification
    --Community (blog, forum activity, speaking, etc.)

    Any one of them alone isn't sufficient to stand on its own.  For example, if all you have is a degree I can't tell if you have any practical experience.  But if you have a degree and 3 years experience, there must be at least a little something to it.  The more legs on your stool and the longer they are, the better off you are.  I think you could benefit from certification.  A potential employer could look at 3.5 years on your resume and wonder if it was 3.5 years working with SQL every day, or was it just incidental contact with the database?  Is it 3.5 years of doing the same thing every day, or 3.5 years of handling a variety of issues and you know the server very well?  Since the certification covers a broad spectrum of topics, if you are able to obtain it it, it will lend credibility and depth to your experience and gives a potential employer more information about what you are capable of doing.  Plus, if you're up against someone else who also has 3.5 years experience, you'll win the coin toss :-).

    I personally use certifications as a forced study program.  It keeps me up to date and stems the leakage of information out of my head.  I also have an employer who cares about continual improvement and progression, so it helps validate my progress there too.

    Chad

    PS - I should note that I have run into people who think that certifications are worthless and the only people who get them are those who can't prove their skill in any other way.  I am most definitely not in that camp and we agreed to disagree on that point, but you should know that the opinion does exist should you run into it somewhere.  When I run into someone like that (which is rare), I shrug and tell them to test me themselves.

    As someone who has worked with SQL Server as a DBA for the past 5 years (more in the field I am in, but not with the "DBA" job title), the MTA certificate was pretty easy to get.  I got that one last year and it has not helped me at all with my current job.  I was hoping that my employeer would see it and bump my wage up due to the extra skill I had gained, but it didn't do much except make me feel good.

    I am glad I got the MTA, mostly so I can say with confidence to my current and future employeer that I do have certification in Database Fundamentals, but I spent more time talking to the auditor to make sure I didn't cheat and cleaning up the room I was in (unplugging my TV for example) to prove I wasn't cheating than I did writing the test.
    Working towards my MCSA (2012/2014) now and have completed a test prep for the first exam but I am doing it more for myself than for my job this time.  I am even debating on if it is worth the time and effort to try to expense it...
    The other thing, with those 4 legs, when I started as a DBA, I had only the first one and it was a very short leg.  Now I am only missing the "Education" one but I think Certification can ALMOST fall under that one, no?  I haven't gotten to the speaking or blogging part of Community, but I have a lot of forum activity AND I started up a PASS Chapter in my home town.  Still pretty small (getting 3 to 5 people per meeting), but we are growing.

    Also, to poke at Lynn's comment, a 1 to 2 legged stool can be mostly stable if the leg is short enough.  It will just wobble a little.

    Is mostly stably like mostly dead?

  • April 24, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    #1939654

    Lynn Pettis - Monday, April 24, 2017 2:12 PM

    bmg002 - Monday, April 24, 2017 2:04 PM

    Chad Crawford - Monday, April 24, 2017 1:20 PM

    Thom A - Monday, April 24, 2017 7:18 AM

    Sorry to disappoint you Brandie, but going for something "on topic" too.

    I'm considering doing the Microsoft Certifications sometimes in the "near" future, and wanted to check if people feel that they are worth the time. Also, unsure where is best to start. Is it best to start at MTA anyway, or is there any problems with starting higher (does, say MCSA, have MTA as a prerequisite)? MTA does seem to be the "entry" level, and personally feel my skills are above that, but I also don't know what to expect at each level.

    Any sweeping statements are welcomed, I'm not looking an essay answer, just a little guidance. 🙂

    Thanks guys/gals!

    I look at certifications as one leg on a four legged stool:
    --Experience
    --Education
    --Certification
    --Community (blog, forum activity, speaking, etc.)

    Any one of them alone isn't sufficient to stand on its own.  For example, if all you have is a degree I can't tell if you have any practical experience.  But if you have a degree and 3 years experience, there must be at least a little something to it.  The more legs on your stool and the longer they are, the better off you are.  I think you could benefit from certification.  A potential employer could look at 3.5 years on your resume and wonder if it was 3.5 years working with SQL every day, or was it just incidental contact with the database?  Is it 3.5 years of doing the same thing every day, or 3.5 years of handling a variety of issues and you know the server very well?  Since the certification covers a broad spectrum of topics, if you are able to obtain it it, it will lend credibility and depth to your experience and gives a potential employer more information about what you are capable of doing.  Plus, if you're up against someone else who also has 3.5 years experience, you'll win the coin toss :-).

    I personally use certifications as a forced study program.  It keeps me up to date and stems the leakage of information out of my head.  I also have an employer who cares about continual improvement and progression, so it helps validate my progress there too.

    Chad

    PS - I should note that I have run into people who think that certifications are worthless and the only people who get them are those who can't prove their skill in any other way.  I am most definitely not in that camp and we agreed to disagree on that point, but you should know that the opinion does exist should you run into it somewhere.  When I run into someone like that (which is rare), I shrug and tell them to test me themselves.

    As someone who has worked with SQL Server as a DBA for the past 5 years (more in the field I am in, but not with the "DBA" job title), the MTA certificate was pretty easy to get.  I got that one last year and it has not helped me at all with my current job.  I was hoping that my employeer would see it and bump my wage up due to the extra skill I had gained, but it didn't do much except make me feel good.

    I am glad I got the MTA, mostly so I can say with confidence to my current and future employeer that I do have certification in Database Fundamentals, but I spent more time talking to the auditor to make sure I didn't cheat and cleaning up the room I was in (unplugging my TV for example) to prove I wasn't cheating than I did writing the test.
    Working towards my MCSA (2012/2014) now and have completed a test prep for the first exam but I am doing it more for myself than for my job this time.  I am even debating on if it is worth the time and effort to try to expense it...
    The other thing, with those 4 legs, when I started as a DBA, I had only the first one and it was a very short leg.  Now I am only missing the "Education" one but I think Certification can ALMOST fall under that one, no?  I haven't gotten to the speaking or blogging part of Community, but I have a lot of forum activity AND I started up a PASS Chapter in my home town.  Still pretty small (getting 3 to 5 people per meeting), but we are growing.

    Also, to poke at Lynn's comment, a 1 to 2 legged stool can be mostly stable if the leg is short enough.  It will just wobble a little.

    Is mostly stably like mostly dead?

    heh... did I write mostly stably?  I meant mostly stablE.  That is, the stability of the stool would be good enough to sit on without falling off or hurting yourself, but not as good as a 3/4 legged stool.
    But thinking about the original comment related to the stool, lets say you have a university degree, 1 certificate, 25 years experience and just made your first post on the forum (all hypothetical), the legs of that stool are going to be all over the place and it'll be horrible trying to balance on it :P.
    I'm just teasing though.  I like the analogy.

    The above is all just my opinion on what you should do. 
    As with all advice you find on a random internet forum - you shouldn't blindly follow it.  Always test on a test server to see if there is negative side effects before making changes to live!
    I recommend you NEVER run "random code" you found online on any system you care about UNLESS you understand and can verify the code OR you don't care if the code trashes your system.

  • April 24, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    #1939679

    bmg002 - Monday, April 24, 2017 2:17 PM

    That is, the stability of the stool would be good enough to sit on without falling off or hurting yourself, but not as good as a 3/4 legged stool.

    Even a 1-legged stool can be stable when used properly. My father was born in a farm, and his father (my grandfather) and his brothers would all use a 1-legged stool when milking the cows. I found an article about it on the Dutch Wikipedia: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melkkruk
    (No English version available, apparently)

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  • April 24, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    #1939683

    Sorry I brought it up.

  • April 24, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    #1939685

    Lynn Pettis - Monday, April 24, 2017 4:12 PM

    Sorry I brought it up.

    But wait. What happens when my stool only has two legs?

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  • April 24, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    #1939686

    Lynn Pettis - Monday, April 24, 2017 4:12 PM

    Sorry I brought it up.

    I'm glad you did.  It was a fun contribution to the conversation :).

    The above is all just my opinion on what you should do. 
    As with all advice you find on a random internet forum - you shouldn't blindly follow it.  Always test on a test server to see if there is negative side effects before making changes to live!
    I recommend you NEVER run "random code" you found online on any system you care about UNLESS you understand and can verify the code OR you don't care if the code trashes your system.

  • April 24, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    #1939687

    Hugo Kornelis - Monday, April 24, 2017 3:40 PM

    bmg002 - Monday, April 24, 2017 2:17 PM

    That is, the stability of the stool would be good enough to sit on without falling off or hurting yourself, but not as good as a 3/4 legged stool.

    Even a 1-legged stool can be stable when used properly. My father was born in a farm, and his father (my grandfather) and his brothers would all use a 1-legged stool when milking the cows. I found an article about it on the Dutch Wikipedia: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melkkruk
    (No English version available, apparently)

    Yeah, the analogy isn't perfect, it will fall apart in some cases and there are exceptions (particularly for really L-O-N-G legs like many years experience).  But I like how it explains my perspective in a quick, easy to understand way.  It used to be a 3-legged stool, I added "community" a few years ago as I realized online activity (like a good blog with regular posts) can also be an indicator that someone has depth or breadth in their experience.

    Chad

  • April 25, 2017 at 1:21 am

    #1939711

    Sean Lange - Monday, April 24, 2017 11:01 AM

    • Descendents (several times)
    • Mighty Mighty Bosstones (several times)
    • Green Day
    • Rancid
    • Living Color
    • HR
    • Sugar (Bob Mould)
    • Scream (Dave Grohl's band prior to Nirvana)
    • Primus

    Gosh it really makes me want to get off my arse and start playing again.

    I've got Maiden tickets for the Manchester show.  It rounds off a (for me) busy six months of gigs so I'm keeping my eye on the tour notifications.

    A couple of lifetimes ago I opened for Elbow and our then guitarist was 'too busy to join them right now'.  He still gets cold sweats about that.
    Mrs B was away last weekend and I had a rare opportunity to get the bass out.  It reminded me how much I miss playing.  I've got a few more free weekends coming up so I'll make hay while I can.  The lack of somewhere to go and play at home is one of the reasons we want a bigger house.

    On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
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  • April 25, 2017 at 1:37 am

    #1939713

    Neil Burton - Tuesday, April 25, 2017 1:21 AM

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    Luis Cazares - Monday, April 24, 2017 9:17 AM

    rodjkidd - Monday, April 24, 2017 8:33 AM

    Sean Lange - Monday, April 24, 2017 8:13 AM

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    Sean Lange - Friday, April 21, 2017 3:04 PM

    Just under two weeks until my annual pilgrimage to New Orleans for Jazz Fest. I have to admit I am finding it difficult to focus on work. The stretch at the beginning of the year with no vacation days is way too long. Haven't had a day off since January 2nd. One my good friends was born and raised there so it is perfect. I have a place to stay and a ride from the airport to everywhere we go. For me it always total immersion in the culture, music, food and drinks. It is like a soul cleansing once a year. My wife does not like much of anything about New Orleans so I usually go by myself and meet up with my buddies there. But this year one of my best friends has decided to go with me. Will be his first trip ever to the Big Easy. So many great things to see, eat and listen too there.

    Enjoy Sean, looks like a great line-up. I see Judith Owen is playing so no doubt Harry Shearer will be about. Plus I think they live there. Oh and the Trey Anastasio Band. And of course Dr. John. Would love to see him perform live.
    One of these years I want to make it out the one in Montreux. New Orleans would be good as well.

    Cheers,

    Rodders...

    Dr John and Trey Anastasio are both playing first weekend. I am not going until second weekend. I don't know Judith Owen but just added her to my cubes and will check out at least a few songs. She has a tough spot on the schedule with her set being during Stevie Wonder's and a few others that I would like to at least check out for a little bit. Such is the challenge of these outdoor festivals. Many great artists all play at the same time making it really difficult to see the ones you want.

    I discovered her via the dj Bob Harris. He put on a roots type one day festival in London last year. Only one artist at a time so no need to jump from stage to stage or work out a schedule! Harry walked past me in the bar area and I was like oh wow Derek Smalls / Mt Burns 🙂 just walked past, why is he here, oh right he's Judiths other half! Ha!
    She has a few good songs, not in the Norah Jones style of piano Jazz, though. if you wanted a comparison. She is also a bit of what I would call a "lovey" very arty, and over suggestive in her on stage gestures, if you know what I mean. Good, but if you can see Stevie, I'd say all bets are off.
    Her and Harry do a Christmas show, which is worth checking out if its near by. I went to the London one last year, enjoyable, but some of the comedy guests weren't my cup of tea.

    Funny enough I tend to avoid big festivals for that very reason, I want to see too many of the artists and they are always nearly overlapping.

    Rodders...

    Well Stevie's set is almost 2 1/2 hours so I don't mind missing parts of it. I figure I will be there for the beginning and the end to catch the best parts. Also on stage on that same time is Kenny Wayne Sheperd, Snoop Dogg (I at least want to check out a couple of tunes even though it makes no sense that he is playing at Jazz Fest) and Rockin' Dopsie Jr. (an awesome local zydeco guy who wears an aluminum washboard).

    certainly some "Jazz Adjacent" artists on the bill 😉

    I guess that I'll just have to be happy to attend the Atlanta Jazz Festival. It's free, it's where I live and you're welcome to join. 😉

    That is much more jazz focused jazz fest. 😀 Looks like a really good lineup too. I enjoy the New Orleans flavor of music and the city so much that I don't mind the "Jazz Adjacency" much.

    I only recognise two artists. Macy Gray and Robert Glasper 🙂 looks like a great festival. I'm in London that weekend for back to back ROCK. Simple Minds then Paul Rodgers. Forgot its the same weekend as Iron Maiden play two nights in London. Trying to see what other dates on the tourcould work, and whether any tickets become available. Oops.

    Haha. Taking my oldest to see Iron Maiden here in Kansas City on July 11th. Will be great to see them again and they are his favorite band. He is so upset that we can't see Green Day later in August as we have a family vacation planned long before we knew about them. I opened for Green Day about a million years ago before anybody knew who they were. This would have been around 90-91 or so. At a cinder block building in the middle of a cornfield known as the Outhouse. There was a movie project that was going for some time as a documentary but I don't think it will ever get finished. The movie was a pretty interesting look at punk rock in the late 80s/early 90s at a stop in the middle of nowhere that every touring band stopped at because there weren't any other choices for so many miles in all directions. But I digress into discussions about 2-3 lifetimes ago.

    Oh Cool... On many, many levels there!
    Yes saw Maiden on the last tour, amazing. Sadly when the tickets when I sale this year I wasn't in a position to log in and join a queue. So having to wait and see what production tickets get released closer to the dates (if at all!)

    • Descendents (several times)
    • Mighty Mighty Bosstones (several times)
    • Green Day
    • Rancid
    • Living Color
    • HR
    • Sugar (Bob Mould)
    • Scream (Dave Grohl's band prior to Nirvana)
    • Primus

    Gosh it really makes me want to get off my arse and start playing again.

    I've got Maiden tickets for the Manchester show.  It rounds off a (for me) busy six months of gigs so I'm keeping my eye on the tour notifications.

    A couple of lifetimes ago I opened for Elbow and our then guitarist was 'too busy to join them right now'.  He still gets cold sweats about that.
    Mrs B was away last weekend and I had a rare opportunity to get the bass out.  It reminded me how much I miss playing.  I've got a few more free weekends coming up so I'll make hay while I can.  The lack of somewhere to go and play at home is one of the reasons we want a bigger house.

    Sean:

    Living Color are amazing live.
    Still yet to see Primus.
    Bob Mould (Sugar) is a legend I see Copper Blue was re-issued for Record Store Day.

    There are few ex musicians in the sql community , I wonder what the connection is? Must be a sign of the times - computer club / music club type of thing!

    Neil - cool, It looks like I may miss this tour, pity as its their most proggy album (!). Hoping for some last minute production tickets, I've got a few tickets like that recently due to working all over the place. Tickets that are held back for band, family, friends and the venue staff. Not always used, but they only put them up for sale really close (sometimes the day of the gig) to the gig.
    Yet to see Elbow as well.

    Rodders...

  • April 25, 2017 at 1:39 am

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    Stools.
    The two logged one would need a lot of concentration and core muscle strength to sit on, and lets not think about if one leg was considerably longer than the other!

    Rodders...

  • April 25, 2017 at 1:50 am

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    rodjkidd - Tuesday, April 25, 2017 1:37 AM

    There are few ex musicians in the sql community , I wonder what the connection is? Must be a sign of the times - computer club / music club type of thing!

    Rodders...

    Not just ex-musicians, either...   Don't you just hate it when rehearsal footage leaks online? And they didn't get my best side.  😉

    But the computer / music linkage is strong - I know quite a few hardcore design/programming/sysadmin types who are also really rather good musicians.  One friend is a rather good horn player by night and a ASIC designer by day; another is a very handy cellist / ATC systems bod.  And I look forward to playing with them both again in the summer.

    Thomas Rushton
    blog: https://thelonedba.wordpress.com

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