April 19, 2017 at 12:03 pm
jasona.work - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:51 AMWell, originally I'd wanted to name my new production servers Larry, Moe, Curly, and Shemp...
QA would've been Pinky and Brain...
*SNARF*
I used to work at a company back in the late 90's where the production database server (Interbase 4) was actually named Nemesis. Needless to say, it would crash 2 or 3 times a day :angry: I was very glad to help them forklift the system to Oracle 8i.
April 19, 2017 at 12:05 pm
ThomasRushton - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:34 AMGrant Fritchey - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:27 AMBrandie Tarvin - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:40 AMSo what hotels have you been staying at lately?Yikes. I stayed at a Holiday Inn for the first time in years just a couple of weeks ago. Luckily it was in Telford and this seems to all be in the US. Dodged a bullet.
That's got to be the first time somebody was considering themselves lucky to have been staying in a Holiday Inn in Telford...
Tell that to the people staying at the Premier Inn in Telford.
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April 19, 2017 at 12:22 pm
Grant Fritchey - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:27 AMBrandie Tarvin - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:40 AMSo what hotels have you been staying at lately?Yikes. I stayed at a Holiday Inn for the first time in years just a couple of weeks ago. Luckily it was in Telford and this seems to all be in the US. Dodged a bullet.
No Holiday Inn here. Very nice guest house instead.
I can't recall the last time I stayed in a Holiday Inn.
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April 19, 2017 at 12:36 pm
GilaMonster - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:22 PMGrant Fritchey - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:27 AMBrandie Tarvin - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:40 AMSo what hotels have you been staying at lately?Yikes. I stayed at a Holiday Inn for the first time in years just a couple of weeks ago. Luckily it was in Telford and this seems to all be in the US. Dodged a bullet.
No Holiday Inn here. Very nice guest house instead.
I can't recall the last time I stayed in a Holiday Inn.
She had left me with only my pipe and piano, playing the bells on the tree with the pipe stem in my misery. Of all the gin joints in all the world, she had to walk out of mine.....
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April 19, 2017 at 2:03 pm
jasona.work - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:25 AMBrandie Tarvin - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:03 AMGrrrr. I hate blackbox server names.Me: Is FTP connection XYZ affected by your login / password changes
Corporate: What's the path?
Me: Umm, XYZ is the only name I have. I don't have remote access to the site. I just know a file gets sent and magic happens to load it to your systems.
Corporate: But what's the path?*headdesk*
I was joking with a co-worker yesterday about naming servers with valid IP addresses, but not the actual IP of the server itself...
I can mentally hear the conversation:
A: Hey, is 192.168.1.11 down?
B: I dunno, can you ping it from 10.10.10.21?
A: Hang on, let me log into 10.10.10.21 and try.Now I want to try this at home...
Oy vey. Why not add an alias (with another ip address) in there for that too?
Or why not try it with IPV6 addresses?
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April 19, 2017 at 2:12 pm
Lynn Pettis - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:51 AMWell, SSC is a great site. I saw a response to a question, contacted the respondent by PM, and it paid off. Paul Stanton has accepted an invitation to speak at the Boulder, Colorado Springs, and Denver SQL Server Users Group meetings in September. He is the VP Cloud and Products at Windocks.Thank you, Steve, for having such a wonderful site that can actually help in many ways.
cheers
April 19, 2017 at 3:01 pm
jasona.work - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:51 AMBrandie Tarvin - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:42 AMjasona.work - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:25 AMBrandie Tarvin - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:03 AMGrrrr. I hate blackbox server names.Me: Is FTP connection XYZ affected by your login / password changes
Corporate: What's the path?
Me: Umm, XYZ is the only name I have. I don't have remote access to the site. I just know a file gets sent and magic happens to load it to your systems.
Corporate: But what's the path?*headdesk*
I was joking with a co-worker yesterday about naming servers with valid IP addresses, but not the actual IP of the server itself...
I can mentally hear the conversation:
A: Hey, is 192.168.1.11 down?
B: I dunno, can you ping it from 10.10.10.21?
A: Hang on, let me log into 10.10.10.21 and try.Now I want to try this at home...
And when you both leave the company with no documentation left behind, the logic bomb you've planted will explode in someone's face and cause all sorts of mayhem.
Congrats. We have officially gone full circle on that question. @=)
Well, originally I'd wanted to name my new production servers Larry, Moe, Curly, and Shemp...
QA would've been Pinky and Brain...
*SNARF*
I think I saw Animaniacs on Amazon Prime, have to check that again now that I'm out of school
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April 19, 2017 at 3:41 pm
jonathan.crawford - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 3:01 PMjasona.work - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:51 AMBrandie Tarvin - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:42 AMjasona.work - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:25 AMBrandie Tarvin - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:03 AMGrrrr. I hate blackbox server names.Me: Is FTP connection XYZ affected by your login / password changes
Corporate: What's the path?
Me: Umm, XYZ is the only name I have. I don't have remote access to the site. I just know a file gets sent and magic happens to load it to your systems.
Corporate: But what's the path?*headdesk*
I was joking with a co-worker yesterday about naming servers with valid IP addresses, but not the actual IP of the server itself...
I can mentally hear the conversation:
A: Hey, is 192.168.1.11 down?
B: I dunno, can you ping it from 10.10.10.21?
A: Hang on, let me log into 10.10.10.21 and try.Now I want to try this at home...
And when you both leave the company with no documentation left behind, the logic bomb you've planted will explode in someone's face and cause all sorts of mayhem.
Congrats. We have officially gone full circle on that question. @=)
Well, originally I'd wanted to name my new production servers Larry, Moe, Curly, and Shemp...
QA would've been Pinky and Brain...
*SNARF*I think I saw Animaniacs on Amazon Prime, have to check that again now that I'm out of school
Because we are all a little tiny and a whole lotta looney
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April 20, 2017 at 12:15 pm
Any bets that the OP in this topic: https://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/1871933/SQL-Server-detected-a-logical-consistencybased-IO-error-incorrect-checksum is now cursing "that person on the internet that *told* me to do the repair" right now?
April 20, 2017 at 12:33 pm
jasona.work - Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:15 PMAny bets that the OP in this topic: https://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/1871933/SQL-Server-detected-a-logical-consistencybased-IO-error-incorrect-checksum is now cursing "that person on the internet that *told* me to do the repair" right now?
Wow. I thought Gail was beyond clear when the OP referred to a "suggestion" and they come back "okay, I'll do it". I can't believe the OP has privs to do it in the first place.
April 20, 2017 at 12:41 pm
Ed Wagner - Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:33 PMjasona.work - Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:15 PMAny bets that the OP in this topic: https://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/1871933/SQL-Server-detected-a-logical-consistencybased-IO-error-incorrect-checksum is now cursing "that person on the internet that *told* me to do the repair" right now?Wow. I thought Gail was beyond clear when the OP referred to a "suggestion" and they come back "okay, I'll do it". I can't believe the OP has privs to do it in the first place.
The story has a happy ending, though.
April 20, 2017 at 1:13 pm
Hugo Kornelis - Monday, April 17, 2017 10:18 AMJustMarie - Monday, April 17, 2017 9:44 AMDoes anyone else think GeorgeCopeland was having a bad day? Or does he really not get the fact that there's a lot of dirty data out there and this IS a problem that people need to consider?https://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1870780.aspx
I don't know how George sounds when he's having goood or bad days. But I do agree with him.
Yes, there is dirty data out there. But the article makes it sound as if the author found a bug ("but this result is wrong based on the fact that 1/1/1900 is not the date you expect to see and use as the outcome" - emphasis mine). That's not the case. The behaviour observed in the article is well documented, and even easy to understand when you consider that datetime and smalldatetime predate the newer date and time datatypes. Before SQL Server 2005, these data types were the only ption for storing dates (and accepting the default time part of midnight) or for storing times (and accepting the default date part of 1-1-1900).
The issue described in the article is not at all related to an issue with the datetime data type, it is related to an issue with improper usage of the datetime data type. My guess is that this is what George is trying to explain (in a more blunt and direct manner than I would have done).
It isn't a bug in the implementation of SQL Server's SQL, but in any data acquisition system for data that requires real datetime data amd doesn't ensure that the data acquired provieds the correct year part of the datetime certainly has a bug, and some sort of detection of erroneous data and/or some sort of workaround is required when using that data. Only an idiot thinks that providing default values without any indicating that they are just defaults with no valid meaning rather than correct valid data is sensible behaviour (and yes, I do I do think CJD was idiotic on that topic).
Tom
April 21, 2017 at 6:42 am
Gotta love when you're poking through a SQL install log trying to figure out why it failed, and you find a line with this in it:
Hello, I'm your 64bit Impersonated custom action server.
April 21, 2017 at 8:07 am
Here is new twist to bobby tables...of course it is syntactically all sorts of not going to work but still pretty funny.
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April 21, 2017 at 12:56 pm
Sean Lange - Friday, April 21, 2017 8:07 AMHere is new twist to bobby tables...of course it is syntactically all sorts of not going to work but still pretty funny.
I like it.
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