April 10, 2017 at 6:41 am
ThomasRushton - Monday, April 10, 2017 6:35 AMTomThomson - Sunday, April 9, 2017 11:40 AMrodjkidd wrote:ThomasRushton - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 3:32 AM[/b]
Just today to get through before SQLBits. Anyone else from here going to be there?I can't make it, promised the wife I would stay and look after her (she's pretty ill) out here at least until after Easter (and then I'll take her back to the UK) so I'm stuck 1750 miles from Telford, couldn't leave her for as long as even one day and couldn't get to Telford and back in less than two days (plus any time spent there.
Sorry to hear that; I hope things improve. Family first, every time.
Agreed on both counts.
Rodders...
April 10, 2017 at 7:16 am
So, which "Hacker Archetype" are you?
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7478#more-7478
Rather interesting idea, and frankly I think they can also apply to the non-coder type people in IT as well.
Myself, I think I'm probably a JOAT with a dash of Translator and a smidgeon of Architect.
April 10, 2017 at 7:23 am
jasona.work - Monday, April 10, 2017 7:16 AMSo, which "Hacker Archetype" are you?
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7478#more-7478Rather interesting idea, and frankly I think they can also apply to the non-coder type people in IT as well.
Myself, I think I'm probably a JOAT with a dash of Translator and a smidgeon of Architect.
Algorithmicist/Architect/Sharpshooter – not sure that they always play nicely together, either!
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April 10, 2017 at 7:24 am
TomThomson - Sunday, April 9, 2017 11:49 AMSean Lange - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:50 AMSometime this new forum software is really buggy. When posting the cursor jumped above Wayne's post. Now I can't get the cursor back there to fix the missing quote.The other bizarre thing I have noticed is that sometimes it puts the cursor before the last character which is unbelievably strange and annoying.
Strange and annoying - YES. Unbelievable - and emphatic. Strange and annoying - YES. Unbelievable - an emphatic NO!
This is fairly new software - it's bound to have bugs, and some of them are bound to be annoying. We just have to live with each bug until Redgate decides to fix it. And as we aren't even paying for teh privilege of using their forum we shouldn't expect fixing forum bugs to be their top priority - earning revenue to keep the firm afloat has to have much higher priority.
I don't believe I was suggesting they stop running the business to fix this or anything of the sort. It is generally considered better to bring bugs to light instead of being quiet about them.
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April 10, 2017 at 7:35 am
TomThomson - Sunday, April 9, 2017 11:49 AMSean Lange - Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:50 AMSometime this new forum software is really buggy. When posting the cursor jumped above Wayne's post. Now I can't get the cursor back there to fix the missing quote.The other bizarre thing I have noticed is that sometimes it puts the cursor before the last character which is unbelievably strange and annoying.
Strange and annoying - YES. Unbelievable - and emphatic. Strange and annoying - YES. Unbelievable - an emphatic NO!
This is fairly new software - it's bound to have bugs, and some of them are bound to be annoying. We just have to live with each bug until Redgate decides to fix it. And as we aren't even paying for teh privilege of using their forum we shouldn't expect fixing forum bugs to be their top priority - earning revenue to keep the firm afloat has to have much higher priority.
Very true but consider what some may think... if they can't get the forum software straight, will such shortcomings appear in the software of their mainline of business? Knowing RedGate, I'll emphatically state "No" to that but, for others, it may cast a doubt.
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April 10, 2017 at 7:39 am
Phil Parkin - Monday, April 10, 2017 7:23 AMjasona.work - Monday, April 10, 2017 7:16 AMSo, which "Hacker Archetype" are you?
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7478#more-7478Rather interesting idea, and frankly I think they can also apply to the non-coder type people in IT as well.
Myself, I think I'm probably a JOAT with a dash of Translator and a smidgeon of Architect.Algorithmicist/Architect/Sharpshooter – not sure that they always play nicely together, either!
Definitely Prankster, with a little Castellan. And I do enjoy proving myself wrong (at times).
Thom~
Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
Larnu.uk
April 10, 2017 at 9:58 am
Someone with over 700 visits is asking where to place a WHERE clause. REALLY?!?!
J. Drew Allen
Business Intelligence Analyst
Philadelphia, PA
April 10, 2017 at 10:10 am
Thom A - Monday, April 10, 2017 7:39 AMPhil Parkin - Monday, April 10, 2017 7:23 AMjasona.work - Monday, April 10, 2017 7:16 AMSo, which "Hacker Archetype" are you?
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7478#more-7478Rather interesting idea, and frankly I think they can also apply to the non-coder type people in IT as well.
Myself, I think I'm probably a JOAT with a dash of Translator and a smidgeon of Architect.Algorithmicist/Architect/Sharpshooter – not sure that they always play nicely together, either!
Definitely Prankster, with a little Castellan. And I do enjoy proving myself wrong (at times).
Algorithmicist/Architect
J. Drew Allen
Business Intelligence Analyst
Philadelphia, PA
April 10, 2017 at 10:34 am
drew.allen - Monday, April 10, 2017 9:58 AMSomeone with over 700 visits is asking where to place a WHERE clause. REALLY?!?!
I guess I should be surprised, but I'm not. Without getting into a discussion of logical query processing, why does the order of the clauses even matter? 😉 Can you even imagine the parser? :w00t:
April 10, 2017 at 11:02 am
jasona.work - Monday, April 10, 2017 7:16 AMSo, which "Hacker Archetype" are you?
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7478#more-7478Rather interesting idea, and frankly I think they can also apply to the non-coder type people in IT as well.
Myself, I think I'm probably a JOAT with a dash of Translator and a smidgeon of Architect.
So I wonder when this will become an interview question?
And the secondary question on what hat color you wear.
April 10, 2017 at 11:23 am
Greg Edwards-268690 - Monday, April 10, 2017 11:02 AMjasona.work - Monday, April 10, 2017 7:16 AMSo, which "Hacker Archetype" are you?
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7478#more-7478Rather interesting idea, and frankly I think they can also apply to the non-coder type people in IT as well.
Myself, I think I'm probably a JOAT with a dash of Translator and a smidgeon of Architect.So I wonder when this will become an interview question?
And the secondary question on what hat color you wear.
Invisible Neon Multi-fractural Brain Frier.
April 10, 2017 at 1:16 pm
deleted - the website is doing bizarre things today!
Tom
April 10, 2017 at 2:27 pm
Greg Edwards-268690 - Monday, April 10, 2017 11:02 AMjasona.work - Monday, April 10, 2017 7:16 AMSo, which "Hacker Archetype" are you?
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7478#more-7478Rather interesting idea, and frankly I think they can also apply to the non-coder type people in IT as well.
Myself, I think I'm probably a JOAT with a dash of Translator and a smidgeon of Architect.So I wonder when this will become an interview question?
And the secondary question on what hat color you wear.
It'll become an interview question when an incompetent (ie average) "HR Manager" reads some trashy hype about it and swallows it hook line and sinker - - unless some greedy recruitment agent spots it first and brings it into play.
The secondary question (hat colour) is actually useful - it takes the interview out of the boring technical and previous experience stuff (which the interviewer read in your CV, and can check with a few quick questions rather than wasting the interview time on it) into something where the interviewee probably isn't prepared so that you get natural reaction rather than a pre-planned one. Questions like that appear to have gone out of the window since the domination of recruitment by agencies employing incompetent and ignorant rectruitment "consultants" and the replacement of the traditional "personel manager" by the new-fangled "human resource manager" (I only ever met one of the latter who was competent, and she was HR director not just manager).
Tom
April 10, 2017 at 2:38 pm
As for those archetypes, if I were still employing people I would prefer not to employ anyone who wasn't prepared to act like whichever archetype was appropriate at the moment. They don't seem to be well defined, they overlap too much, they are a bit wishy-washy. And they dispay a tendency to approve of over-specialisation - why the hell does anyone think that a good algorithmist will not also be a good sharpshooter, for that a sharpshooter doesn't also want to do security trials and isn;t a good prankster?
In my career, I've done all of the things described in that blog (and a few that are not). For each of them except Castellan and Prankster I've spent reasonably long periods concentrating mainly on what's described for each of those archetypes - and for castellan, there has hardly ever been a moment when that was not a very important part of what I was doing.
Tom
April 11, 2017 at 2:26 am
It looks like most people have returned from this SQL Bits - there are some random Americans and one very random Norwegian ( 🙂 ) getting lost in London at the moment... But
Having only been there Friday night and Saturday I can only comment on those, I liked the idea of the 3 "after dark" sessions on Friday between the main conference and the evening festivities starting. I thought the party was a very good one. And Saturday was excellent, I think for only the 2nd or 3rd I made the right decisions on which sessions to attend. Although I was awake and with it early enough for the very first session.
It was great catching with Steve, Grant, Gail and seeing Thomas in person for the first time in what seems ages (last Redgate in the City I think?). And we had far too much fun in the session that we both attended... Poor Andre, or not as the case may be 😉 Have I missed any other regular Threadizens?
I still don't like the domes, but it may be from the deep emotional scars of Liverpool the year before.
Well organised by the committee and volunteers. I did like the idea of the headphones and big displays outside the full rooms (domes - whatever) so you could tune into them if you couldn't get in. Didn't need them for the sessions I attended though on the Saturday.
It was odd only going for one day, next year I should have no issues with Friday and Saturday, don't think I can commit to the whole week though. But it was all very rushed on my part, and I certainly felt that! And then at least I can attend the quiz on the Thursday.
Met new people, bumped into old acquiesces, probably missed a few people I know.
Cheers,
Rodders...
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