Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • jasona.work - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:11 AM

    /Brandie is magically flung from the thread and into the abyss to be forced to support a MUMPS application for the rest of her days

    And if you don't know what MUMPS is, Google it on DailyWTF for a more amusing description...
    I shudder at the mere thought of it...

    Many, many years ago, I had a job programming in MUMPS.  I've forgotten everything I ever knew about MUMPS.

    Drew

    J. Drew Allen
    Business Intelligence Analyst
    Philadelphia, PA

  • drew.allen - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 10:42 AM

    jasona.work - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:11 AM

    /Brandie is magically flung from the thread and into the abyss to be forced to support a MUMPS application for the rest of her days

    And if you don't know what MUMPS is, Google it on DailyWTF for a more amusing description...
    I shudder at the mere thought of it...

    Many, many years ago, I had a job programming in MUMPS.  I've forgotten everything I ever knew about MUMPS.

    Drew

    Hey, when I was a kid, I got a vaccine just so I could avoid MUMPS. It's worked out pretty well, I must say. @=)

    Brandie Tarvin, MCITP Database AdministratorLiveJournal Blog: http://brandietarvin.livejournal.com/[/url]On LinkedIn!, Google+, and Twitter.Freelance Writer: ShadowrunLatchkeys: Nevermore, Latchkeys: The Bootleg War, and Latchkeys: Roscoes in the Night are now available on Nook and Kindle.

  • Neil Burton - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:14 AM

    jasona.work - Monday, March 6, 2017 12:05 PM

    ZZartin - Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:41 AM

    Grant Fritchey - Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:25 AM

    GilaMonster - Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:24 AM

    Jeff Moden - Thursday, March 2, 2017 7:47 AM

     Ironically, the ones that knew the least rated themselves the highest when asked to rate themselves on a scale of 1 to 10 on the skills advertised for the job prior to the interview.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

    At my previous employer, for legal purposes we were required to a) ask every single person the same set of questions on an initial interview and b) keep notes. I had notes on over 150 people failing to answer 10, stupid simple questions, about SQL Server. The vast majority of those people had, at least on paper, 5-10 years of experience as a DBA. If within 5 years, you can't tell me the difference between a CI & NCI or two of three standard recovery models(and I would have gleefully accepted non-standard models) or even, my favorite failing question, "So, SQL Server X was just released, can you tell me anything about it at all?" Huge, huge, huge swaths of people don't even bother reading "What's new" to see what's coming out in vNext.

    Trying to hire a competent data pro is a flipping nightmare. No wonder everyone wants to eliminate the position.

    At my last job the first thing we gave techy applicants was a basic math quiz, like grade school level basic, train leaves a station going X miles per hour train b leaves a station going Y miles per hour they're Z distance apart how long until there's a fiery wreck kind of basic.

    The vast majority of the candidates only got interviews out pity after that because crumpling up their results and playing basketball with the trash can while laughing would be rude, these were people with post high school degrees in something tech related applying for developer jobs :crying:

    A bigger problem with this math problem is that you're apparently presuming instantaneous acceleration from 0MPH to X or Y MPH.  Presuming any sort of reasonable travel speed, you'd be turning your passengers into a fine red jam on the rear walls of the cars, presuming the walls would be able to withstand the impact...

    Honestly.

    You *have* to specify the acceleration rates of the trains as well, if one accelerates at 5MPH/minute and the other at 10MPH/minute, it's going to drastically alter when the trains will meet!

    But what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

    That depends on what kind of cannon you're shooting it out of.

  • As a side note, since I work for Redgate, we've added our data tools (Prompt, Search, ReadyRoll) to Visual Studio 2017 Enterprise.
    Any feedback appreciated if you try them.

    https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/03/07/redgate-data-tools-in-visual-studio-2017/

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:36 PM

    As a side note, since I work for Redgate, we've added our data tools (Prompt, Search, ReadyRoll) to Visual Studio 2017 Enterprise.
    Any feedback appreciated if you try them.

    https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/03/07/redgate-data-tools-in-visual-studio-2017/

    So far I like the tools in 2017. I have been working with them since the RC. ReadyRoll is pretty slick. I need to test with RTM because I found some oddities (e.g. enterprise features didn't script quite right) with the RC.

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
    _______________________________________________
    I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
    SQL RNNR
    Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
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  • ZZartin - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:33 PM

    Neil Burton - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:14 AM

    jasona.work - Monday, March 6, 2017 12:05 PM

    ZZartin - Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:41 AM

    Grant Fritchey - Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:25 AM

    GilaMonster - Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:24 AM

    Jeff Moden - Thursday, March 2, 2017 7:47 AM

     Ironically, the ones that knew the least rated themselves the highest when asked to rate themselves on a scale of 1 to 10 on the skills advertised for the job prior to the interview.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

    At my previous employer, for legal purposes we were required to a) ask every single person the same set of questions on an initial interview and b) keep notes. I had notes on over 150 people failing to answer 10, stupid simple questions, about SQL Server. The vast majority of those people had, at least on paper, 5-10 years of experience as a DBA. If within 5 years, you can't tell me the difference between a CI & NCI or two of three standard recovery models(and I would have gleefully accepted non-standard models) or even, my favorite failing question, "So, SQL Server X was just released, can you tell me anything about it at all?" Huge, huge, huge swaths of people don't even bother reading "What's new" to see what's coming out in vNext.

    Trying to hire a competent data pro is a flipping nightmare. No wonder everyone wants to eliminate the position.

    At my last job the first thing we gave techy applicants was a basic math quiz, like grade school level basic, train leaves a station going X miles per hour train b leaves a station going Y miles per hour they're Z distance apart how long until there's a fiery wreck kind of basic.

    The vast majority of the candidates only got interviews out pity after that because crumpling up their results and playing basketball with the trash can while laughing would be rude, these were people with post high school degrees in something tech related applying for developer jobs :crying:

    A bigger problem with this math problem is that you're apparently presuming instantaneous acceleration from 0MPH to X or Y MPH.  Presuming any sort of reasonable travel speed, you'd be turning your passengers into a fine red jam on the rear walls of the cars, presuming the walls would be able to withstand the impact...

    Honestly.

    You *have* to specify the acceleration rates of the trains as well, if one accelerates at 5MPH/minute and the other at 10MPH/minute, it's going to drastically alter when the trains will meet!

    But what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

    That depends on what kind of cannon you're shooting it out of.

    They tend to disintegrate on launch when using a 3 banded pork chop launcher.  Only the beak survives, which is kind of like using a sabot-projectile.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Jeff Moden - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:17 PM

    ZZartin - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:33 PM

    Neil Burton - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:14 AM

    jasona.work - Monday, March 6, 2017 12:05 PM

    ZZartin - Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:41 AM

    Grant Fritchey - Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:25 AM

    GilaMonster - Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:24 AM

    Jeff Moden - Thursday, March 2, 2017 7:47 AM

     Ironically, the ones that knew the least rated themselves the highest when asked to rate themselves on a scale of 1 to 10 on the skills advertised for the job prior to the interview.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

    At my previous employer, for legal purposes we were required to a) ask every single person the same set of questions on an initial interview and b) keep notes. I had notes on over 150 people failing to answer 10, stupid simple questions, about SQL Server. The vast majority of those people had, at least on paper, 5-10 years of experience as a DBA. If within 5 years, you can't tell me the difference between a CI & NCI or two of three standard recovery models(and I would have gleefully accepted non-standard models) or even, my favorite failing question, "So, SQL Server X was just released, can you tell me anything about it at all?" Huge, huge, huge swaths of people don't even bother reading "What's new" to see what's coming out in vNext.

    Trying to hire a competent data pro is a flipping nightmare. No wonder everyone wants to eliminate the position.

    At my last job the first thing we gave techy applicants was a basic math quiz, like grade school level basic, train leaves a station going X miles per hour train b leaves a station going Y miles per hour they're Z distance apart how long until there's a fiery wreck kind of basic.

    The vast majority of the candidates only got interviews out pity after that because crumpling up their results and playing basketball with the trash can while laughing would be rude, these were people with post high school degrees in something tech related applying for developer jobs :crying:

    A bigger problem with this math problem is that you're apparently presuming instantaneous acceleration from 0MPH to X or Y MPH.  Presuming any sort of reasonable travel speed, you'd be turning your passengers into a fine red jam on the rear walls of the cars, presuming the walls would be able to withstand the impact...

    Honestly.

    You *have* to specify the acceleration rates of the trains as well, if one accelerates at 5MPH/minute and the other at 10MPH/minute, it's going to drastically alter when the trains will meet!

    But what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

    That depends on what kind of cannon you're shooting it out of.

    They tend to disintegrate on launch when using a 3 banded pork chop launcher.  Only the beak survives, which is kind of like using a sabot-projectile.

    In that case, use a spherical cow.

  • Gazareth - Wednesday, March 8, 2017 7:40 AM

    Jeff Moden - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:17 PM

    ZZartin - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:33 PM

    Neil Burton - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:14 AM

    But what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

    That depends on what kind of cannon you're shooting it out of.

    They tend to disintegrate on launch when using a 3 banded pork chop launcher.  Only the beak survives, which is kind of like using a sabot-projectile.

    In that case, use a spherical cow.

    ...in a vacuum

    Thomas Rushton
    blog: https://thelonedba.wordpress.com

  • ThomasRushton - Wednesday, March 8, 2017 7:46 AM

    Gazareth - Wednesday, March 8, 2017 7:40 AM

    Jeff Moden - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:17 PM

    ZZartin - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:33 PM

    Neil Burton - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:14 AM

    But what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

    That depends on what kind of cannon you're shooting it out of.

    They tend to disintegrate on launch when using a 3 banded pork chop launcher.  Only the beak survives, which is kind of like using a sabot-projectile.

    In that case, use a spherical cow.

    ...in a vacuum

    Heh... that would suck. 😉

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Man, the winds around here today...
    50-60mph gusts, and looking out the window at the tree out front, it looks like it.

    90K+ without power right now, and the power companies outage map web site is down from the load it seems...

  • It's International Women's Day. Think about what your life would be like right now without at least one woman in it. First of all, none of us would exist.

    But beyond that?

    Brandie Tarvin, MCITP Database AdministratorLiveJournal Blog: http://brandietarvin.livejournal.com/[/url]On LinkedIn!, Google+, and Twitter.Freelance Writer: ShadowrunLatchkeys: Nevermore, Latchkeys: The Bootleg War, and Latchkeys: Roscoes in the Night are now available on Nook and Kindle.

  • Brandie Tarvin - Wednesday, March 8, 2017 11:09 AM

    It's International Women's Day. Think about what your life would be like right now without at least one woman in it. First of all, none of us would exist.

    But beyond that?

    Short story I read a long time ago:

    What if Eve had failed to conceive.
    .


    Yes.  The entire story was a single period...

  • So we got a little bit of hail Monday evening. Ok so we actually got a crap load of hail. It piled up to almost 4" at the edge of the garage with over 1" everywhere in the yard. Some of the stones were a bit larger than others. There were probably at least 100 or more of the ones the size in my hand on the left scattered all over the yard.

    _______________________________________________________________

    Need help? Help us help you.

    Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

    Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

  • Sean Lange - Wednesday, March 8, 2017 12:25 PM

    So we got a little bit of hail Monday evening. Ok so we actually got a crap load of hail. It piled up to almost 4" at the edge of the garage with over 1" everywhere in the yard. Some of the stones were a bit larger than others. There were probably at least 100 or more of the ones the size in my hand on the left scattered all over the yard.

    Yikes. I hope none of them did any serious damage.

    Brandie Tarvin, MCITP Database AdministratorLiveJournal Blog: http://brandietarvin.livejournal.com/[/url]On LinkedIn!, Google+, and Twitter.Freelance Writer: ShadowrunLatchkeys: Nevermore, Latchkeys: The Bootleg War, and Latchkeys: Roscoes in the Night are now available on Nook and Kindle.

  • Brandie Tarvin - Wednesday, March 8, 2017 12:34 PM

    Yikes. I hope none of them did any serious damage.

    Pretty sure the roof is going to be replaced. We had some hail storms last spring and nearly every house in our neighborhood got a new roof. I chose not to because the honest roofers confided that for whatever reason my roof was really not in bad shape. I decided to forgo the deductible cost on the gamble that another hail storm would trash my roof before the 15 years expectancy expired. Since I am KC we have no shortage of hail storms in the spring. We get them every year. It is sort of like hurricanes for you now. :Whistling:

    _______________________________________________________________

    Need help? Help us help you.

    Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

    Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

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