Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:08 PM

    If you find issues, there is an upgrade thread, but I'd prefer you open new threads for issues now in the Website Issues forum. That way we don't have multiple discussions in the same thread.
    https://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/SQLServerCentralcom/SQLServerCentralcom-Website-Issues

    Thank you, Steve.

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  • Phil Parkin - Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:53 PM

    Or perhaps there are plans for other options: Edit with Extreme Prejudice, Edit Like a Trooper etc.

    I'd like a 'Automatically fix those typos I missed' option in that dropdown, if Steve's taking requests

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  • GilaMonster - Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:49 PM

    Phil Parkin - Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:53 PM

    Or perhaps there are plans for other options: Edit with Extreme Prejudice, Edit Like a Trooper etc.

    I'd like a 'Automatically fix those typos I missed' option in that dropdown, if Steve's taking requests

    Oh no, please no, anything but that!  It would turn all our civilised spellings into American.  
    Of course if each member were allowed to specify his or her spelling régime and the typo autofixer took account of that it might just work. 

    Tom

  • TomThomson - Thursday, January 26, 2017 4:10 PM

    GilaMonster - Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:49 PM

    Phil Parkin - Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:53 PM

    Or perhaps there are plans for other options: Edit with Extreme Prejudice, Edit Like a Trooper etc.

    I'd like a 'Automatically fix those typos I missed' option in that dropdown, if Steve's taking requests

    Oh no, please no, anything but that!  It would turn all our civilised spellings into American.  
    Of course if each member were allowed to specify his or her spelling régime and the typo autofixer took account of that it might just work. 

    BWAAA-HAAA!!! 😉

    civilize

    [siv-uh-lahyz] /ˈsɪv əˌlaɪz/

    verb (used with object), civilized, civilizing.
    1.

    to bring out of a savage, uneducated, or rude state; make civil; elevate in social and private life; enlighten; refine:

    Rome civilized the barbarians.

    Also, especially British, civilise.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Jeff Moden - Thursday, January 26, 2017 6:41 PM

    TomThomson - Thursday, January 26, 2017 4:10 PM

    GilaMonster - Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:49 PM

    Phil Parkin - Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:53 PM

    Or perhaps there are plans for other options: Edit with Extreme Prejudice, Edit Like a Trooper etc.

    I'd like a 'Automatically fix those typos I missed' option in that dropdown, if Steve's taking requests

    Oh no, please no, anything but that!  It would turn all our civilised spellings into American.  
    Of course if each member were allowed to specify his or her spelling régime and the typo autofixer took account of that it might just work. 

    BWAAA-HAAA!!! 😉

    civilize

    [siv-uh-lahyz] /ˈsɪv əˌlaɪz/

    verb (used with object), civilized, civilizing.
    1.

    to bring out of a savage, uneducated, or rude state; make civil; elevate in social and private life; enlighten; refine:

    Rome civilized the barbarians.

    Also, especially British, civilise.

    Damnit!  It's true that most Brits write "ise" when they should write "ize" but I tend to follow the Oxford (OUP) spelling convention and use "ize" for most words.  So either there's a hidden spelling changer somewhere or my finger slipped down and to the left!  "civilize" should have had a "z".  Only about 30 or maybe 40 verbs should end in "ise", while there are more than 2300 that properly end in "ize".  Quite a few of the "-ize" verbs (mostly ones that are derived from an adjective) are just about acceptable when spellt with "-ise".  (The OUP rule is that for all  but a very few ize/ise verbs "z" is the preferred spelling but "s" is an acceptable alternative in many cases;  "s" is mandatory in less that 2% of this set of verbs). 

    For "civilize" the OED gives 53 quotations to illustrate its various meanings, and only 3 of them use "ise", one dating from the 20th century and two from the 21st - the other 50 all use "ize", and cover usage from the 16th century (when English imported French "civilizer" as "civilize" - but the French switched to spelling it with an "s" some time between then and now) to the 21st. 

    Unfortunately a lot of British style guides tell people to use "ise" always, fortunately quite a lot of us pay no attention to that rubbish but unfortunately most Brits are taken in by it and many even believe that "-ize" is exclusively American.

    Tom

  • TomThomson - Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:40 PM

    Jeff Moden - Thursday, January 26, 2017 6:41 PM

    TomThomson - Thursday, January 26, 2017 4:10 PM

    GilaMonster - Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:49 PM

    Phil Parkin - Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:53 PM

    Or perhaps there are plans for other options: Edit with Extreme Prejudice, Edit Like a Trooper etc.

    I'd like a 'Automatically fix those typos I missed' option in that dropdown, if Steve's taking requests

    Oh no, please no, anything but that!  It would turn all our civilised spellings into American.  
    Of course if each member were allowed to specify his or her spelling régime and the typo autofixer took account of that it might just work. 

    BWAAA-HAAA!!! 😉

    civilize

    [siv-uh-lahyz] /ˈsɪv əˌlaɪz/

    verb (used with object), civilized, civilizing.
    1.

    to bring out of a savage, uneducated, or rude state; make civil; elevate in social and private life; enlighten; refine:

    Rome civilized the barbarians.

    Also, especially British, civilise.

    Damnit!  It's true that most Brits write "ise" when they should write "ize" but I tend to follow the Oxford (OUP) spelling convention and use "ize" for most words.  So either there's a hidden spelling changer somewhere or my finger slipped down and to the left!  "civilize" should have had a "z".  Only about 30 or maybe 40 verbs should end in "ise", while there are more than 2300 that properly end in "ize".  Quite a few of the "-ize" verbs (mostly ones that are derived from an adjective) are just about acceptable when spellt with "-ise".  (The OUP rule is that for all  but a very few ize/ise verbs "z" is the preferred spelling but "s" is an acceptable alternative in many cases;  "s" is mandatory in less that 2% of this set of verbs). 

    For "civilize" the OED gives 53 quotations to illustrate its various meanings, and only 3 of them use "ise", one dating from the 20th century and two from the 21st - the other 50 all use "ize", and cover usage from the 16th century (when English imported French "civilizer" as "civilize" - but the French switched to spelling it with an "s" some time between then and now) to the 21st. 

    Unfortunately a lot of British style guides tell people to use "ise" always, fortunately quite a lot of us pay no attention to that rubbish but unfortunately most Brits are taken in by it and many even believe that "-ize" is exclusively American.

    Even funnier is that an "uncivilized" American caught you on the slip. 😉

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Want...

  • BrainDonor - Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 AM

    +1000000

  • BrainDonor - Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 AM

    Peeerrrfffeeccctttt!  I'm gonna get me some. 😉  Then I'm going to have them make some that say... "What does a good DBA do?  You'll find out when we stop doing it. " 😉

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • BrainDonor - Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 AM

    That's pretty cool

  • Jeff Moden - Friday, January 27, 2017 8:46 AM

    BrainDonor - Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 AM

    Peeerrrfffeeccctttt!  I'm gonna get me some. 😉  Then I'm going to have them make some that say... "What does a good DBA do?  You'll find out when we stop doing it. " 😉

    That sir is awesome!!!

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  • Don't you just love people who post "I don't think that will work for me" type responses to suggestions given to them?

  • Lynn Pettis - Friday, January 27, 2017 12:57 PM

    Don't you just love people who post "I don't think that will work for me" type responses to suggestions given to them?

    And you know they did not try or try to understand.

  • djj - Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 PM

    Lynn Pettis - Friday, January 27, 2017 12:57 PM

    Don't you just love people who post "I don't think that will work for me" type responses to suggestions given to them?

    And you know they did not try or try to understand.

    Huh?  What do you mean by "try to understand?"  I don't think that will work for me.

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  • BrainDonor - Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 AM

    Naw, I want this one:

    https://www.sunfrog.com/LifeStyle/SQL-SERVER-DATABASE-ADMINISTRATOR-BADASS-Black-Guys.html

    -SQLBill

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