October 18, 2016 at 8:18 am
jasona.work (10/18/2016)
BWFC (10/18/2016)
jasona.work (10/18/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (10/18/2016)
What a morning. SSC just broke my heart.I see an article about time traveling listed in the newsletter. Get ready to read it and realize, it's not talking about building a TARDIS.
Shattered, I tell you. I'm absolutely shattered.
π
Bah, such a banal device to travel time in, a Call Box, I mean really? Where's the style, the flash, the panache?
Give me a Delorean any day (ideally after a motor swap to a HellCat motor, keep the Mr Fusion to run the time circuits)
With the TARDIS all the flash, style and panache is on the inside. It's typical British understatement π
So how do you explain the TVR Tuscan, then?
Atypical British understatement?
:hehe:
That TVR Tuscan is never going be understated π I think the paint job is just in case people don't hear you coming. Besides, it wasn't around in 1963 when the Doctor first graced our screens. I suspect he'd use something like this instead
How to post a question to get the most help http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537
October 18, 2016 at 8:34 am
Grant Fritchey (10/18/2016)
BLOB_EATER (10/18/2016)
Grant Fritchey (10/18/2016)
Wow, just read the comments on Reddit about a recent blog post... ouch.Evidently stating the obvious when others are stating the opposite is not allowed amongst those who know what the obvious thing is. Crap.
link?
+1 on what the others have said Grant.
Well done for seeing a misconception/error and being willing to help correct it in a nice way.
Well done for actually using Brent Spiner data to support the results.
Well done focusing on the truth, and not lifting yourself by pushing someone else down (outing the source).
Well done keeping on the high road and not stooping to vulgarity, name calling or going on the offensive.
I believe that anyone who has made the rounds in the SQL Server community knows and respects your name. My assumption is that although these people know enough about SQL Server to understand the issues with SELECT *, they haven't been around long enough to become acquainted with many the key players. I think they eventually will and when that happens your professionalism today will only increase their respect for you. And if not - oh well, don't let it bother you. I know my career and knowledge has been enhanced by my interaction with you, and you can see from here that many others have as well.
Chad
October 18, 2016 at 8:48 am
Do people really not know how to look at their email headers?
I just got an email from someone I don't recognize. So I popped open the message options to read the header and see this:
Received: from mail.spearphish.com (mail.spearphish.com ....)
I mean, really. Who's going to open something like that?
October 18, 2016 at 8:50 am
BWFC (10/18/2016)
jasona.work (10/18/2016)
BWFC (10/18/2016)
jasona.work (10/18/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (10/18/2016)
What a morning. SSC just broke my heart.I see an article about time traveling listed in the newsletter. Get ready to read it and realize, it's not talking about building a TARDIS.
Shattered, I tell you. I'm absolutely shattered.
π
Bah, such a banal device to travel time in, a Call Box, I mean really? Where's the style, the flash, the panache?
Give me a Delorean any day (ideally after a motor swap to a HellCat motor, keep the Mr Fusion to run the time circuits)
With the TARDIS all the flash, style and panache is on the inside. It's typical British understatement π
So how do you explain the TVR Tuscan, then?
Atypical British understatement?
:hehe:
That TVR Tuscan is never going be understated π I think the paint job is just in case people don't hear you coming. Besides, it wasn't around in 1963 when the Doctor first graced our screens. I suspect he'd use something like this instead
Now if that only came in cobolt or royal blue... Siiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhh.
October 18, 2016 at 9:04 am
Chad Crawford (10/18/2016)
Grant Fritchey (10/18/2016)
BLOB_EATER (10/18/2016)
Grant Fritchey (10/18/2016)
Wow, just read the comments on Reddit about a recent blog post... ouch.Evidently stating the obvious when others are stating the opposite is not allowed amongst those who know what the obvious thing is. Crap.
link?
+1 on what the others have said Grant.
Well done for seeing a misconception/error and being willing to help correct it in a nice way.
Well done for actually using
Brent Spinerdata to support the results.Well done focusing on the truth, and not lifting yourself by pushing someone else down (outing the source).
Well done keeping on the high road and not stooping to vulgarity, name calling or going on the offensive.
I believe that anyone who has made the rounds in the SQL Server community knows and respects your name. My assumption is that although these people know enough about SQL Server to understand the issues with SELECT *, they haven't been around long enough to become acquainted with many the key players. I think they eventually will and when that happens your professionalism today will only increase their respect for you. And if not - oh well, don't let it bother you. I know my career and knowledge has been enhanced by my interaction with you, and you can see from here that many others have as well.
Chad
Thanks Chad. I don't mind admitting, I was fishing a little here after being kicked over there. Reddit always seems overly harsh, but that was the first time I landed in the middle of it. Woof. Writing another one anyway. And yeah, I'll post it to Reddit.
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October 18, 2016 at 9:50 am
Just had a Blast from the past
π
October 18, 2016 at 11:40 am
Eirikur Eiriksson (10/18/2016)
Just had a Blast from the pastπ
Wait... 11 - 13k of RAM? 32-bit?
Where did you dig up this dinosaur? @=)
October 18, 2016 at 12:09 pm
Brandie Tarvin (10/18/2016)
Eirikur Eiriksson (10/18/2016)
Just had a Blast from the pastπ
Wait... 11 - 13k of RAM? 32-bit?
Where did you dig up this dinosaur? @=)
What nothing about MS SQL Server 4.2?
October 18, 2016 at 12:15 pm
djj (10/18/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (10/18/2016)
Eirikur Eiriksson (10/18/2016)
Just had a Blast from the pastπ
Wait... 11 - 13k of RAM? 32-bit?
Where did you dig up this dinosaur? @=)
What nothing about MS SQL Server 4.2?
Wow. I used that article as a source for a project in my database administration class!!!!
Michael L John
If you assassinate a DBA, would you pull a trigger?
To properly post on a forum:
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/61537/
October 18, 2016 at 12:21 pm
Brandie Tarvin (10/18/2016)
Eirikur Eiriksson (10/18/2016)
Just had a Blast from the pastπ
Wait... 11 - 13k of RAM? 32-bit?
Where did you dig up this dinosaur? @=)
Damn I was 11 years old and didn't own a computer when that was released π
October 18, 2016 at 1:50 pm
ZZartin (10/18/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (10/18/2016)
Eirikur Eiriksson (10/18/2016)
Just had a Blast from the pastπ
Wait... 11 - 13k of RAM? 32-bit?
Where did you dig up this dinosaur? @=)
Damn I was 11 years old and didn't own a computer when that was released π
Back then working on Ingres, Informix, OPEN Pace, dBase, Sybase, DB2, Obstacle Oracle and few others. When I first read that article I had only played around a little bit with an earlier version of SQL Server (1.something) and thought I'd better leave that one alone as it was absolutely no good;-) 4.2 was, just as Sybase, quite advanced although the performance of the former was absolutely no good. 6.5 was in many ways a game changer but it was only when 7 was released that things started to shift. Maybe I've been doing this for too long:-D
π
October 18, 2016 at 2:31 pm
Eirikur Eiriksson (10/18/2016)
ZZartin (10/18/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (10/18/2016)
Eirikur Eiriksson (10/18/2016)
Just had a Blast from the pastπ
Wait... 11 - 13k of RAM? 32-bit?
Where did you dig up this dinosaur? @=)
Damn I was 11 years old and didn't own a computer when that was released π
Back then working on Ingres, Informix, OPEN Pace, dBase, Sybase, DB2,
ObstacleOracle and few others. When I first read that article I had only played around a little bit with an earlier version of SQL Server (1.something) and thought I'd better leave that one alone as it was absolutely no good;-) 4.2 was, just as Sybase, quite advanced although the performance of the former was absolutely no good. 6.5 was in many ways a game changer but it was only when 7 was released that things started to shift. Maybe I've been doing this for too long:-Dπ
I started with SQL Server 6.5 four years after that article, and yes, SQL Server 7.0 was a game changer. The only upgrade that got approved based solely on how quickly Access reports returned when querying a database on 7.0 versus 6.5. Try seconds versus 20 to 30 minutes with no changes to the reports except which server it hit.
October 18, 2016 at 2:53 pm
Need a crystal ball or a contractor.
October 18, 2016 at 3:10 pm
Lynn Pettis (10/18/2016)
Eirikur Eiriksson (10/18/2016)
ZZartin (10/18/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (10/18/2016)
Eirikur Eiriksson (10/18/2016)
Just had a Blast from the pastπ
Wait... 11 - 13k of RAM? 32-bit?
Where did you dig up this dinosaur? @=)
Damn I was 11 years old and didn't own a computer when that was released π
Back then working on Ingres, Informix, OPEN Pace, dBase, Sybase, DB2,
ObstacleOracle and few others. When I first read that article I had only played around a little bit with an earlier version of SQL Server (1.something) and thought I'd better leave that one alone as it was absolutely no good;-) 4.2 was, just as Sybase, quite advanced although the performance of the former was absolutely no good. 6.5 was in many ways a game changer but it was only when 7 was released that things started to shift. Maybe I've been doing this for too long:-Dπ
I started with SQL Server 6.5 four years after that article, and yes, SQL Server 7.0 was a game changer. The only upgrade that got approved based solely on how quickly Access reports returned when querying a database on 7.0 versus 6.5. Try seconds versus 20 to 30 minutes with no changes to the reports except which server it hit.
Yes, SQL Server 7.0 was a big leap, reading this one only wonders what has really changed since;-)
π
October 18, 2016 at 3:31 pm
Lynn Pettis (10/18/2016)
Need a crystal ball or a contractor.
Send the crystal ball over here when you're done please.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
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