August 19, 2016 at 12:37 pm
Sean Lange (8/19/2016)
Ed Wagner (8/19/2016)
RBarryYoung (8/19/2016)
Jeff Moden (8/19/2016)
Heh... Cross out the "S" and the "E" and it makes a word that comes from the same animal as "pork chop". 😀
Yeah right, Jeff, "Ham and pork comes from the same wonderful magical creature." Next you'll tell us we can get bacon from it too!
😛
And don't forget the shoulder - that's just pulled pork waiting to happen. All you need is smoke, heat, rub and time. 😀
And the ribs, skin, loin, oh heck...the list of delicious pork pieces goes on and on.
Have you ever had jowls? Oh my. I've never had cracklins, but have heard good things.
August 19, 2016 at 12:48 pm
Ed Wagner (8/19/2016)
Sean Lange (8/19/2016)
Ed Wagner (8/19/2016)
RBarryYoung (8/19/2016)
Jeff Moden (8/19/2016)
Heh... Cross out the "S" and the "E" and it makes a word that comes from the same animal as "pork chop". 😀
Yeah right, Jeff, "Ham and pork comes from the same wonderful magical creature." Next you'll tell us we can get bacon from it too!
😛
And don't forget the shoulder - that's just pulled pork waiting to happen. All you need is smoke, heat, rub and time. 😀
And the ribs, skin, loin, oh heck...the list of delicious pork pieces goes on and on.
Have you ever had jowls? Oh my. I've never had cracklins, but have heard good things.
I was going to mention cracklins. However, they are not the same as they were 50 plus years ago, unless you get lucky.
August 19, 2016 at 12:53 pm
Ed Wagner (8/19/2016)
RBarryYoung (8/19/2016)
Jeff Moden (8/19/2016)
Heh... Cross out the "S" and the "E" and it makes a word that comes from the same animal as "pork chop". 😀
Yeah right, Jeff, "Ham and pork comes from the same wonderful magical creature." Next you'll tell us we can get bacon from it too!
😛
And don't forget the shoulder - that's just pulled pork waiting to happen. All you need is smoke, heat, rub and time. 😀
Got a big shoulder going now for the party tomorrow. Come over, bring your bathing suit and an appetite.
Michael L John
If you assassinate a DBA, would you pull a trigger?
To properly post on a forum:
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August 19, 2016 at 1:06 pm
Ed Wagner (8/19/2016)
Sean Lange (8/19/2016)
Ed Wagner (8/19/2016)
RBarryYoung (8/19/2016)
Jeff Moden (8/19/2016)
Heh... Cross out the "S" and the "E" and it makes a word that comes from the same animal as "pork chop". 😀
Yeah right, Jeff, "Ham and pork comes from the same wonderful magical creature." Next you'll tell us we can get bacon from it too!
😛
And don't forget the shoulder - that's just pulled pork waiting to happen. All you need is smoke, heat, rub and time. 😀
And the ribs, skin, loin, oh heck...the list of delicious pork pieces goes on and on.
Have you ever had jowls? Oh my. I've never had cracklins, but have heard good things.
Seriously??? Never had them??? Ed you seriously need to get down here at some point. Over the winter one of my fave local places makes them in house for their chili and they are some of the best around.
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August 19, 2016 at 1:38 pm
Brandie Tarvin (8/19/2016)
GilaMonster (8/19/2016)
!!!!https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/identifying-fixing-performance-issues-caused-parameter-sniffing
And massive amount of work it was too. Recording's the easy part. Scripting is the most time consuming, editing probably the most difficult.
Congrats! Nice accomplishment.
Is this one of their paid courses?
All of their courses are paid. They sometimes do promotions where specific courses are free for short periods of time, but that's all.
The subscription's well worth it, it's I think $29/month for access to their entire catalog.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
August 19, 2016 at 1:56 pm
Sean Lange (8/19/2016)
Ed Wagner (8/19/2016)
Sean Lange (8/19/2016)
Ed Wagner (8/19/2016)
RBarryYoung (8/19/2016)
Jeff Moden (8/19/2016)
Heh... Cross out the "S" and the "E" and it makes a word that comes from the same animal as "pork chop". 😀
Yeah right, Jeff, "Ham and pork comes from the same wonderful magical creature." Next you'll tell us we can get bacon from it too!
😛
And don't forget the shoulder - that's just pulled pork waiting to happen. All you need is smoke, heat, rub and time. 😀
And the ribs, skin, loin, oh heck...the list of delicious pork pieces goes on and on.
Have you ever had jowls? Oh my. I've never had cracklins, but have heard good things.
Seriously??? Never had them??? Ed you seriously need to get down here at some point. Over the winter one of my fave local places makes them in house for their chili and they are some of the best around.
You really must try them. Although, I like them with a mexican style.
Oh, so many ways to enjoy this magical animal, and I have to limit myself because my wife is allergic to it.
August 19, 2016 at 2:01 pm
Lynn Pettis (8/19/2016)
Sean Lange (8/19/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (8/19/2016)
Lynn Pettis (8/19/2016)
And then we have people that think they can learn our job from a book.blink
blinkblink
Ummmm, that's how I learned it. Books and a small PC and doing the exercises in the books. Does that make me a not-a-dba?
Not at all. First of all you have plural books. And you used a pc to do the exercises. The person Lynn is referring to is a post where they seem to want a book to change careers. If it were only that simple.
And more importantly, they want books written by Indian authors so they can understand it better.
Interesting.
Anybody know of any good french SQL books?
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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SQL RNNR
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Learn Extended Events
August 19, 2016 at 2:05 pm
GilaMonster (8/19/2016)
!!!!https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/identifying-fixing-performance-issues-caused-parameter-sniffing
And massive amount of work it was too. Recording's the easy part. Scripting is the most time consuming, editing probably the most difficult.
Congrats!
You ready to do some on my behalf now? 😉
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
_______________________________________________
I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events
August 19, 2016 at 2:29 pm
SQLRNNR (8/19/2016)
GilaMonster (8/19/2016)
!!!!https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/identifying-fixing-performance-issues-caused-parameter-sniffing
And massive amount of work it was too. Recording's the easy part. Scripting is the most time consuming, editing probably the most difficult.
Congrats!
You ready to do some on my behalf now? 😉
??
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
August 19, 2016 at 3:24 pm
GilaMonster (8/19/2016)
SQLRNNR (8/19/2016)
GilaMonster (8/19/2016)
!!!!https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/identifying-fixing-performance-issues-caused-parameter-sniffing
And massive amount of work it was too. Recording's the easy part. Scripting is the most time consuming, editing probably the most difficult.
Congrats!
You ready to do some on my behalf now? 😉
??
Create some pluralsight videos for me of course. 😉
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
_______________________________________________
I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events
August 20, 2016 at 8:30 am
August 20, 2016 at 11:03 am
Brandie Tarvin (8/19/2016)
Lynn Pettis (8/19/2016)
And then we have people that think they can learn our job from a book.blink
blinkblink
Ummmm, that's how I learned it. Books and a small PC and doing the exercises in the books. Does that make me a not-a-dba?
I think you can learn a lot from books, especially if they provide decent excercises. Combined with talking and discussing things with people who deal with the stuff regularly, and maybe corresponding in writing too, it can give you a firm basis for tackling things. Then after you've spent a few years tackling things (ideally with someone competent keeping an eye on you and providing guidance for the first year or two), and making mistakes and learning from them, and cleaning up other people's messes, and teaching people what you've learnt, you can be pretty good at doing the job. In fact that's just about the only route to the sort of knowledge and skill that I want from people I work with.
As for people who believe nothing is learnt from books, it's decades since I got fed up with them wasting my time and with having to tell them to RTFM.
The snag with book learning is that one can become trapped into spending a lot of effort committing trivia to memory, and I'm perfectly happy with people who look up detailed syntax for obscure stuff in manuals and have no intention of learning it, at least for stuff that they don't use every week, because not cluttering up one's mind with trivia makes space for broader learning instead of overspecialisation. But that doesn't excuse people who decide that because there is a book they can consult it's OK for them to know nothing.
Tom
August 22, 2016 at 4:24 am
GilaMonster (8/19/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (8/19/2016)
GilaMonster (8/19/2016)
!!!!https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/identifying-fixing-performance-issues-caused-parameter-sniffing
And massive amount of work it was too. Recording's the easy part. Scripting is the most time consuming, editing probably the most difficult.
Congrats! Nice accomplishment.
Is this one of their paid courses?
All of their courses are paid. They sometimes do promotions where specific courses are free for short periods of time, but that's all.
The subscription's well worth it, it's I think $29/month for access to their entire catalog.
We might already have access. I think PluralSight does our company's internal website training. So I'm going to look for the courses there first.
August 22, 2016 at 4:47 am
Wow. This is a weird one.
Has anyone ever seen a cluster issue where you can connect to the instance, but get error messages like "cannot display policy health state at the server level because the user doesn't have permission" and "The operating system returned error 21(The device is not ready.) to SQL Server during a read at offset 0x0000000026600 in file 'e:\...master.mdf...", then when you do connect, none of the databases are marked suspect (and you can see everything in Object Explorer), Failover Cluster manager shows the SAN drives connected to the server, but Windows Explorer can't see the drives at all?
Please note that I'm asking more out of interest than an actual need for an answer. I'm calling our server support team on the issue. I'm just a little freaked out that I can connect and SQL thinks it's working (sort of) but the drives just aren't there in the Windows Explorer.
August 22, 2016 at 7:22 am
TomThomson (8/20/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (8/19/2016)
Lynn Pettis (8/19/2016)
And then we have people that think they can learn our job from a book.blink
blinkblink
Ummmm, that's how I learned it. Books and a small PC and doing the exercises in the books. Does that make me a not-a-dba?
I think you can learn a lot from books, especially if they provide decent excercises. Combined with talking and discussing things with people who deal with the stuff regularly, and maybe corresponding in writing too, it can give you a firm basis for tackling things. Then after you've spent a few years tackling things (ideally with someone competent keeping an eye on you and providing guidance for the first year or two), and making mistakes and learning from them, and cleaning up other people's messes, and teaching people what you've learnt, you can be pretty good at doing the job. In fact that's just about the only route to the sort of knowledge and skill that I want from people I work with.
As for people who believe nothing is learnt from books, it's decades since I got fed up with them wasting my time and with having to tell them to RTFM.
The snag with book learning is that one can become trapped into spending a lot of effort committing trivia to memory, and I'm perfectly happy with people who look up detailed syntax for obscure stuff in manuals and have no intention of learning it, at least for stuff that they don't use every week, because not cluttering up one's mind with trivia makes space for broader learning instead of overspecialisation. But that doesn't excuse people who decide that because there is a book they can consult it's OK for them to know nothing.
Tom, I think you were missing the point. From the very short post asking for a book or books, and ones written by Indian authors, it appeared to me that this individual could learn our jobs just by reading. I am all for reading, just don't expect to really learn anything until you start putting what you read into actual practice. I learned DTS by doing. I learned SSIS from reading books and putting into practice what I was reading. Just reading about SSIS would not have been enough.
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