June 16, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
Actually, I remember learning about integer arithmetic in the first grade. For example, 1 divided by 2 equals 0 remainder 1.
Is that old math, new math, or common core math???
I'll just say it is 60's math and let others label it. Common core wasn't even around when I was in school.
June 16, 2016 at 6:46 pm
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
Actually, I remember learning about integer arithmetic in the first grade. For example, 1 divided by 2 equals 0 remainder 1.
Is that old math, new math, or common core math???
I'll just say it is 60's math and let others label it. Common core wasn't even around when I was in school.
It wasn't around for me either. And John, don't even think it was around when you were in school either. 😛
It's common sense, elementary school math.
June 17, 2016 at 2:56 am
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
Actually, I remember learning about integer arithmetic in the first grade. For example, 1 divided by 2 equals 0 remainder 1.
Is that old math, new math, or common core math???
Well, that's me earwormed for the morning.
"Hooray for New Math, New-ew-ew-ew Math
It won't do you a bit of good to review math
It's so simple, so very simple,
That only a child can do it"...
Thomas Rushton
blog: https://thelonedba.wordpress.com
June 17, 2016 at 5:34 am
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
I don't remember exactly when I learned it, but I know I learned whole numbers before high school. What freaks me out is that I can actually apply that logic to a real world job after so many years in my childhood believing none of this would help me as an adult. :hehe:
June 17, 2016 at 7:05 am
Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
I don't remember exactly when I learned it, but I know I learned whole numbers before high school. What freaks me out is that I can actually apply that logic to a real world job after so many years in my childhood believing none of this would help me as an adult. :hehe:
Exactly! 🙂
June 17, 2016 at 7:19 am
What's really incredible is how powerful integer math solutions can actually be depending, of course, on what you need to do. Sometimes the really old, simple stuff is the best way.
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
June 17, 2016 at 7:24 am
Jeff Moden (6/17/2016)
What's really incredible is how powerful integer math solutions can actually be depending, of course, on what you need to do. Sometimes the really old, simple stuff is the best way.
Agreed. The old stuff that's still used has lasted this long for one reason - it works.
June 17, 2016 at 7:50 am
Ed Wagner (6/16/2016)
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
Actually, I remember learning about integer arithmetic in the first grade. For example, 1 divided by 2 equals 0 remainder 1.
Is that old math, new math, or common core math???
I'll just say it is 60's math and let others label it. Common core wasn't even around when I was in school.
It wasn't around for me either. And John, don't even think it was around when you were in school either. 😛
It's common sense, elementary school math.
I don't believe it's a case of not knowing, but more like not remembering.
We become to used to machines not showing integer division that we forget it happens. And if we believe that it's so easy, why can't mathematicians fully agree if the remainder can be negative or not (which then affects integer division).
June 17, 2016 at 7:58 am
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.
ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)
June 17, 2016 at 8:05 am
Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)
As I understand, zero is a rational number.
Integers include all whole numbers and their negative counterpart e.g. …-4, -3, -2, -1, 0,1, 2, 3, 4,…
All integers belong to the rational numbers.
June 17, 2016 at 8:07 am
Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)
Ummm. That quote actually says (correctly) that zero IS a retional number.
Rational numbers are all numbers that can be represented as a division of two integer numbers, where the divisor cannot be zero, but the dividend can. And since the collection of integer numbers includes zero, so does the collection of rational numbers - because zero can (for instance) be represented as zero divied by five.
June 17, 2016 at 8:09 am
Hugo Kornelis (6/17/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)
Ummm. That quote actually says (correctly) that zero IS a retional number.
Rational numbers are all numbers that can be represented as a division of two integer numbers, where the divisor cannot be zero, but the dividend can. And since the collection of integer numbers includes zero, so does the collection of rational numbers - because zero can (for instance) be represented as zero divied by five.
Blah. Ruin my fun, will you.
Yes, I misread the formula. But I was enjoying my "the world is coming to an end" panic. Now I can't run around like Chicken Little anymore, party pooper.
Or tell my boss we're no longer allowed to use the number zero for anything. @=)
June 17, 2016 at 8:25 am
Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)
Zero and negative power of a number can be quite useful
😎
Very simple example
;WITH NUMBER_LIST(N) AS
(
SELECT N FROM (VALUES (1),(2),(3),(4),(5)) AS X(N)
)
SELECT
NA.N
,NB.N
,SIGN(POWER(10,NA.N - NB.N)) AS IS_A_GE_B_1
,SIGN(1 + SIGN(NA.N - NB.N)) AS IS_A_GE_B_2
,CASE
WHEN NA.N >= NB.N THEN 1
ELSE 0
END AS IS_A_GE_B_3
FROM NUMBER_LIST NA
CROSS JOIN NUMBER_LIST NB
;
Edit : Typo
June 17, 2016 at 8:49 am
Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
Or tell my boss we're no longer allowed to use the number zero for anything. @=)
I hope the boss doesn't reply with "Your bonus will be... 0%, so it is useful after all"....
June 17, 2016 at 10:41 am
Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)
I guess you are misinterpreting the bizarre notation "$$\frac{a}{b},\: beq 0$$" :w00t:.
What a god-awful mess it is! :crazy:
Even apart from the bizarre notation, that is a terrible page. There should be severe penalities for anyone who teaches school children such meaningless junk. :angry:
Tom
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