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Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442467 More actions · Answer 1

Michael L John (6/16/2016)
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.
Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
Actually, I remember learning about integer arithmetic in the first grade. For example, 1 divided by 2 equals 0 remainder 1.
Is that old math, new math, or common core math???

I'll just say it is 60's math and let others label it. Common core wasn't even around when I was in school.

Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287026 More actions · Answer 2

Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.
Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
Actually, I remember learning about integer arithmetic in the first grade. For example, 1 divided by 2 equals 0 remainder 1.
Is that old math, new math, or common core math???
I'll just say it is 60's math and let others label it. Common core wasn't even around when I was in school.

It wasn't around for me either. And John, don't even think it was around when you were in school either. 😛

It's common sense, elementary school math.

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Thomas Rushton SSC-Insane Points: 22649 More actions · Answer 3

Michael L John (6/16/2016)
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.
Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
Actually, I remember learning about integer arithmetic in the first grade. For example, 1 divided by 2 equals 0 remainder 1.
Is that old math, new math, or common core math???

Well, that's me earwormed for the morning.

"Hooray for New Math, New-ew-ew-ew Math

It won't do you a bit of good to review math

It's so simple, so very simple,

That only a child can do it"...

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Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 173045 More actions · Answer 4

Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.
Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.

I don't remember exactly when I learned it, but I know I learned whole numbers before high school. What freaks me out is that I can actually apply that logic to a real world job after so many years in my childhood believing none of this would help me as an adult. :hehe:

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djj SSCoach Points: 18831 More actions · Answer 5

Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.
Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
I don't remember exactly when I learned it, but I know I learned whole numbers before high school. What freaks me out is that I can actually apply that logic to a real world job after so many years in my childhood believing none of this would help me as an adult. :hehe:

Exactly! 🙂

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004279 More actions · Answer 6

What's really incredible is how powerful integer math solutions can actually be depending, of course, on what you need to do. Sometimes the really old, simple stuff is the best way.

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Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287026 More actions · Answer 7

Jeff Moden (6/17/2016)
What's really incredible is how powerful integer math solutions can actually be depending, of course, on what you need to do. Sometimes the really old, simple stuff is the best way.

Agreed. The old stuff that's still used has lasted this long for one reason - it works.

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Luis Cazares SSC Guru Points: 183706 More actions · Answer 8

Ed Wagner (6/16/2016)
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
Lynn Pettis (6/16/2016)
Michael L John (6/16/2016)
I'm sorry, this post infuriates me.
Integer division was taught within the first three weeks of my first programming class in my first semester of school.
Actually, I remember learning about integer arithmetic in the first grade. For example, 1 divided by 2 equals 0 remainder 1.
Is that old math, new math, or common core math???
I'll just say it is 60's math and let others label it. Common core wasn't even around when I was in school.
It wasn't around for me either. And John, don't even think it was around when you were in school either. 😛
It's common sense, elementary school math.

I don't believe it's a case of not knowing, but more like not remembering.

We become to used to machines not showing integer division that we forget it happens. And if we believe that it's so easy, why can't mathematicians fully agree if the remainder can be negative or not (which then affects integer division).

Luis C.
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Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 173045 More actions · Answer 9

I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.

ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!

Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)

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Luis Cazares SSC Guru Points: 183706 More actions · Answer 10

Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.
ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)

As I understand, zero is a rational number.

Integers include all whole numbers and their negative counterpart e.g. …-4, -3, -2, -1, 0,1, 2, 3, 4,…
All integers belong to the rational numbers.

Luis C.
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Hugo Kornelis SSC Guru Points: 64790 More actions · Answer 11

Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.
ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)

Ummm. That quote actually says (correctly) that zero IS a retional number.

Rational numbers are all numbers that can be represented as a division of two integer numbers, where the divisor cannot be zero, but the dividend can. And since the collection of integer numbers includes zero, so does the collection of rational numbers - because zero can (for instance) be represented as zero divied by five.

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Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 173045 More actions · Answer 12

Hugo Kornelis (6/17/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.
ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)
Ummm. That quote actually says (correctly) that zero IS a retional number.
Rational numbers are all numbers that can be represented as a division of two integer numbers, where the divisor cannot be zero, but the dividend can. And since the collection of integer numbers includes zero, so does the collection of rational numbers - because zero can (for instance) be represented as zero divied by five.

Blah. Ruin my fun, will you.

Yes, I misread the formula. But I was enjoying my "the world is coming to an end" panic. Now I can't run around like Chicken Little anymore, party pooper.

Or tell my boss we're no longer allowed to use the number zero for anything. @=)

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Eirikur Eiriksson SSC Guru Points: 182901 More actions · Answer 13

Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.
ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)

Zero and negative power of a number can be quite useful

😎

Very simple example

;WITH NUMBER_LIST(N) AS

(

SELECT N FROM (VALUES (1),(2),(3),(4),(5)) AS X(N)

)

SELECT

NA.N

,NB.N

,SIGN(POWER(10,NA.N - NB.N)) AS IS_A_GE_B_1

,SIGN(1 + SIGN(NA.N - NB.N)) AS IS_A_GE_B_2

,CASE

WHEN NA.N >= NB.N THEN 1

ELSE 0

END AS IS_A_GE_B_3

FROM NUMBER_LIST NA

CROSS JOIN NUMBER_LIST NB

;

Edit : Typo

Grumpy DBA SSChampion Points: 12493 More actions · Answer 14

Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
Or tell my boss we're no longer allowed to use the number zero for anything. @=)

I hope the boss doesn't reply with "Your bonus will be... 0%, so it is useful after all"....

TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 15

Brandie Tarvin (6/17/2016)
I knew I was conflating Whole Numbers and Integers somewhat, so I went and looked it up. Then my mind got blown.
ZERO IS NOT A RATIONAL NUMBER!
Further proof that anyone believing in the power of zero MUST be crazy. @=) (duck)

I guess you are misinterpreting the bizarre notation "$$\frac{a}{b},\: beq 0$$" :w00t:.

What a god-awful mess it is! :crazy:

Even apart from the bizarre notation, that is a terrible page. There should be severe penalities for anyone who teaches school children such meaningless junk. :angry:

Tom