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  • Sorry to bring technical to the thread, but I have a quick question that I need answered so I can counter a "Are you sure it's the code because performance is inconsistent?" question.

    Can someone link me to a thread / website / etc. on how to pull up cached plans for a specific stored procedure so I can (hopefully) find the parameters it was run with in the past few days?

    We've got an upgraded to 2012 slow proc problem (similar to this) that someone refuses to believe is a mainly a code problem because an update stats and recompile of the proc fixed the issue for exactly 2 days before it started going downhill again. And I think Grant is correct in this case, that the proc is so poorly coded that no number of recompiles or update stats will leave it fixed.

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  • Brandie Tarvin (5/26/2016)


    Sorry to bring technical to the thread, but I have a quick question that I need answered so I can counter a "Are you sure it's the code because performance is inconsistent?" question.

    Can someone link me to a thread / website / etc. on how to pull up cached plans for a specific stored procedure so I can (hopefully) find the parameters it was run with in the past few days?

    We've got an upgraded to 2012 slow proc problem (similar to this) that someone refuses to believe is a mainly a code problem because an update stats and recompile of the proc fixed the issue for exactly 2 days before it started going downhill again. And I think Grant is correct in this case, that the proc is so poorly coded that no number of recompiles or update stats will leave it fixed.

    To get the plan out of cache you can use a query like this:

    SELECT deqp.query_plan

    FROM sys.dm_exec_query_stats AS deqs

    CROSS APPLY sys.dm_exec_text_query_plan(deqs.plan_handle,DEFAULT,DEFAULT) AS deqp

    WHERE deqp.objectid = OBJECT_ID('dbo.AddressByCity');

    It won't show the parameters used to call the plan. That information isn't stored anywhere unless you capture it using ExEvents or trace. It will show the compile time parameter values. That can help.

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  • Grant Fritchey (5/26/2016)


    Brandie Tarvin (5/26/2016)


    Sorry to bring technical to the thread, but I have a quick question that I need answered so I can counter a "Are you sure it's the code because performance is inconsistent?" question.

    Can someone link me to a thread / website / etc. on how to pull up cached plans for a specific stored procedure so I can (hopefully) find the parameters it was run with in the past few days?

    We've got an upgraded to 2012 slow proc problem (similar to this) that someone refuses to believe is a mainly a code problem because an update stats and recompile of the proc fixed the issue for exactly 2 days before it started going downhill again. And I think Grant is correct in this case, that the proc is so poorly coded that no number of recompiles or update stats will leave it fixed.

    To get the plan out of cache you can use a query like this:

    SELECT deqp.query_plan

    FROM sys.dm_exec_query_stats AS deqs

    CROSS APPLY sys.dm_exec_text_query_plan(deqs.plan_handle,DEFAULT,DEFAULT) AS deqp

    WHERE deqp.objectid = OBJECT_ID('dbo.AddressByCity');

    It won't show the parameters used to call the plan. That information isn't stored anywhere unless you capture it using ExEvents or trace. It will show the compile time parameter values. That can help.

    Thanks, Grant. That tallies with what I've been seeing from other code I have, where it's been giving me nothing on the query itself. But I was hoping I was just looking at it wrong.

    SELECT Text, cp.size_in_bytes, plan_handle, *

    FROM sys.dm_exec_cached_plans AS cp

    CROSS APPLY sys.dm_exec_sql_text(plan_handle)

    WHERE cp.cacheobjtype = N'Compiled Plan'

    AND cp.objtype = N'Proc'

    --AND cp.usecounts = 1

    AND Text LIKE '%MyProc%'

    ORDER BY cp.size_in_bytes DESC;

    SELECT plan_handle,usecounts, cacheobjtype, objtype, size_in_bytes, text, query_plan

    FROM sys.dm_exec_cached_plans

    CROSS APPLY sys.dm_exec_sql_text(plan_handle)

    CROSS APPLY sys.dm_exec_query_plan(plan_handle)

    WHERE usecounts >= 1

    AND text LIKE '%MyProc%'

    AND objtype = 'Proc'

    ORDER BY usecounts DESC;

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  • Hey Threadizens . . .

    The other day (inspired by a couple of SQL Saturday speakers), I started my own blog.

    My most recent entry tackles the very-often-asked-here-on-SSC question, "how do I get started with SQL Server[/url]?"

    Feel free to take a peek and let me know what you think! (And if you have anything to add to my post, feel free to comment!)

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  • Ray K (5/26/2016)


    Hey Threadizens . . .

    The other day (inspired by a couple of SQL Saturday speakers), I started my own blog.

    My most recent entry tackles the very-often-asked-here-on-SSC question, "how do I get started with SQL Server[/url]?"

    Feel free to take a peek and let me know what you think! (And if you have anything to add to my post, feel free to comment!)

    A man of many talents! very cool.

  • Ray K (5/26/2016)


    Hey Threadizens . . .

    The other day (inspired by a couple of SQL Saturday speakers), I started my own blog.

    My most recent entry tackles the very-often-asked-here-on-SSC question, "how do I get started with SQL Server[/url]?"

    Feel free to take a peek and let me know what you think! (And if you have anything to add to my post, feel free to comment!)

    Very cool

  • Ray K (5/26/2016)


    Hey Threadizens . . .

    The other day (inspired by a couple of SQL Saturday speakers), I started my own blog.

    My most recent entry tackles the very-often-asked-here-on-SSC question, "how do I get started with SQL Server[/url]?"

    Feel free to take a peek and let me know what you think! (And if you have anything to add to my post, feel free to comment!)

    Congrats, good stuff!

    šŸ˜Ž

  • Ray K (5/26/2016)


    Hey Threadizens . . .

    The other day (inspired by a couple of SQL Saturday speakers), I started my own blog.

    My most recent entry tackles the very-often-asked-here-on-SSC question, "how do I get started with SQL Server[/url]?"

    Feel free to take a peek and let me know what you think! (And if you have anything to add to my post, feel free to comment!)

    Nice.

  • I'm really starting to hate the SSIS Catalog...

    Two servers, same permissions on both. On one, the user can deploy their project no problems (with the deploy project wizard.)

    On the other, the deployment fails and the error in the messages is "Failed to deploy the project. Fix the problems and try again later.:External component has thrown an exception."

    So helpful...

    All the Googling finds is for large projects where the error indicates a timeout, adding indexes to a couple tables...

  • jasona.work (5/26/2016)


    I'm really starting to hate the SSIS Catalog...

    Two servers, same permissions on both. On one, the user can deploy their project no problems (with the deploy project wizard.)

    On the other, the deployment fails and the error in the messages is "Failed to deploy the project. Fix the problems and try again later.:External component has thrown an exception."

    So helpful...

    All the Googling finds is for large projects where the error indicates a timeout, adding indexes to a couple tables...

    Iā€™m right there with you.

    Luis C.
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    Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

    How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help: Option 1 / Option 2
  • jasona.work (5/26/2016)


    I'm really starting to hate the SSIS Catalog...

    Two servers, same permissions on both. On one, the user can deploy their project no problems (with the deploy project wizard.)

    On the other, the deployment fails and the error in the messages is "Failed to deploy the project. Fix the problems and try again later.:External component has thrown an exception."

    So helpful...

    All the Googling finds is for large projects where the error indicates a timeout, adding indexes to a couple tables...

    Is everything equal on both servers (versions, OS etc.)?

    šŸ˜Ž

  • Who has the crystal ball this time?

  • Lynn Pettis (5/26/2016)


    Who has the crystal ball this time?

    Well, someone must have done something to help. The OP posted "this works now" but didn't provide the solution. He could have switched to a stored procedure, but my guess is that he substituted NULLs for unwanted columns. Now I'm expecting to see a post similar to "Hey, I've got this function I won't post and it's reading from a bunch of tables it doesn't need to read from. Please fix."

  • Ed Wagner (5/26/2016)


    Lynn Pettis (5/26/2016)


    Who has the crystal ball this time?

    Well, someone must have done something to help. The OP posted "this works now" but didn't provide the solution. He could have switched to a stored procedure, but my guess is that he substituted NULLs for unwanted columns. Now I'm expecting to see a post similar to "Hey, I've got this function I won't post and it's reading from a bunch of tables it doesn't need to read from. Please fix."

    :laugh:

    (unfortunately you are most likely correct)

  • djj (5/27/2016)


    Ed Wagner (5/26/2016)


    Lynn Pettis (5/26/2016)


    Who has the crystal ball this time?

    Well, someone must have done something to help. The OP posted "this works now" but didn't provide the solution. He could have switched to a stored procedure, but my guess is that he substituted NULLs for unwanted columns. Now I'm expecting to see a post similar to "Hey, I've got this function I won't post and it's reading from a bunch of tables it doesn't need to read from. Please fix."

    :laugh:

    (unfortunately you are most likely correct)

    And we will blindly throw out ideas until one of them (but we don't know which one) will magically work and everything is unicorn farts again.

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