May 3, 2016 at 12:33 pm
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Heh. I'm picturing a company where their "office" is nothing more than a cage in a CoLo facility that once a month or so a couple part-time employees go in to hit the servers with compressed air and swap out anything that threw a warning or has hit its end-of-life. The rest of the staff are all sitting at home, or at Starbucks working remotely with work calls forwarded to their phone / Skype / whatever...Once a year, the company has a get-together so the staff can actually *see* each other...
The consulting company I used to work for was like that. Hosted Exchange for mail, no physical office. The one thing, however, that we did need: A meeting room (though one we rented by the hour as needed).
Some clients want to visit a physical location that isn't their office to have a meeting. Strange, but..
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
May 3, 2016 at 12:54 pm
GilaMonster (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Heh. I'm picturing a company where their "office" is nothing more than a cage in a CoLo facility that once a month or so a couple part-time employees go in to hit the servers with compressed air and swap out anything that threw a warning or has hit its end-of-life. The rest of the staff are all sitting at home, or at Starbucks working remotely with work calls forwarded to their phone / Skype / whatever...Once a year, the company has a get-together so the staff can actually *see* each other...
The consulting company I used to work for was like that. Hosted Exchange for mail, no physical office. The one thing, however, that we did need: A meeting room (though one we rented by the hour as needed).
Some clients want to visit a physical location that isn't their office to have a meeting. Strange, but..
Nah, that's the "I can get paid for an 8hr day by driving across town to a 2hr meeting that could have been done over the phone and once it's done, well, darn and golly, how did my golf clubs end up in my trunk?" sort of thing...
😀
May 3, 2016 at 2:21 pm
Eirikur Eiriksson (5/3/2016)
Phil Parkin (5/3/2016)
Jeff Moden (5/3/2016)
djj (5/3/2016)
Had a "discussion" today. Developer asked I push a couple stored procedures. No problem, this happens all the time. Looked at the SP's and saw they did not have the comment section I have requested (management approved) for all SP's. Now a submitted SP can have a minimal amount of info and I will let it go, however this guy only had his name. No description of what they did or what ran them. I suggested he add information and he gets upset. When he went for a smoke, two other developers said I did a good job of it.I hope the guy gets over it as we sit back to back and is a friend. :unsure:
Oh, well.
Not only does the "developer" need to get over it, as suggested, he needs to concentrate a bit more on following the standards you laid out and have management approval on. It's actually a part of his job now and he needs to be a team member by doing his job correctly... first time if possible.
Love your work, Jeff.
>>>>>Pork>>>>Pork>>>>Pork>>>>Chop Chop Chop >>>> \o/
😎
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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May 3, 2016 at 2:36 pm
SQLRNNR (5/3/2016)
Eirikur Eiriksson (5/3/2016)
Phil Parkin (5/3/2016)
Jeff Moden (5/3/2016)
djj (5/3/2016)
Had a "discussion" today. Developer asked I push a couple stored procedures. No problem, this happens all the time. Looked at the SP's and saw they did not have the comment section I have requested (management approved) for all SP's. Now a submitted SP can have a minimal amount of info and I will let it go, however this guy only had his name. No description of what they did or what ran them. I suggested he add information and he gets upset. When he went for a smoke, two other developers said I did a good job of it.I hope the guy gets over it as we sit back to back and is a friend. :unsure:
Oh, well.
Not only does the "developer" need to get over it, as suggested, he needs to concentrate a bit more on following the standards you laid out and have management approval on. It's actually a part of his job now and he needs to be a team member by doing his job correctly... first time if possible.
Love your work, Jeff.
>>>>>Pork>>>>Pork>>>>Pork>>>>Chop Chop Chop >>>> \o/
😎
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That's one "word" putting it
😎
May 3, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Eirikur Eiriksson (5/3/2016)
SQLRNNR (5/3/2016)
Eirikur Eiriksson (5/3/2016)
Phil Parkin (5/3/2016)
Jeff Moden (5/3/2016)
djj (5/3/2016)
Had a "discussion" today. Developer asked I push a couple stored procedures. No problem, this happens all the time. Looked at the SP's and saw they did not have the comment section I have requested (management approved) for all SP's. Now a submitted SP can have a minimal amount of info and I will let it go, however this guy only had his name. No description of what they did or what ran them. I suggested he add information and he gets upset. When he went for a smoke, two other developers said I did a good job of it.I hope the guy gets over it as we sit back to back and is a friend. :unsure:
Oh, well.
Not only does the "developer" need to get over it, as suggested, he needs to concentrate a bit more on following the standards you laid out and have management approval on. It's actually a part of his job now and he needs to be a team member by doing his job correctly... first time if possible.
Love your work, Jeff.
>>>>>Pork>>>>Pork>>>>Pork>>>>Chop Chop Chop >>>> \o/
😎
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That's one "word" putting it
😎
Ok... you guys asked for it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amICZ1aVaCg
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
May 3, 2016 at 3:22 pm
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
GilaMonster (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Heh. I'm picturing a company where their "office" is nothing more than a cage in a CoLo facility that once a month or so a couple part-time employees go in to hit the servers with compressed air and swap out anything that threw a warning or has hit its end-of-life. The rest of the staff are all sitting at home, or at Starbucks working remotely with work calls forwarded to their phone / Skype / whatever...Once a year, the company has a get-together so the staff can actually *see* each other...
The consulting company I used to work for was like that. Hosted Exchange for mail, no physical office. The one thing, however, that we did need: A meeting room (though one we rented by the hour as needed).
Some clients want to visit a physical location that isn't their office to have a meeting. Strange, but..
Nah, that's the "I can get paid for an 8hr day by driving across town to a 2hr meeting that could have been done over the phone and once it's done, well, darn and golly, how did my golf clubs end up in my trunk?" sort of thing...
😀
Which I was fine with at the time (billing by the hour). I also tended to make diversions after meetings, though not to the golf course. Bookshops however...
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
May 3, 2016 at 7:50 pm
Hey guys,
Need some advice. I got a really good job offer recently to work at a company as a DBA. I'm currently a data architect that built and manages a data warehouse for a analytics team. I'm kind of their only tech resource and everything is sort of tied into what I do regardless of my suggestions to hire redundancy for me.
I'm struggling to leave the business hanging, but I'm generally becoming unhappy due to a number of things that likely won't get fixed from a management standpoint. So, I'm kind of forced to seek opportunities elsewhere to continue my growth in my passion for data. Yet, I'm seriously guilt tripping a lot on the impact of that decision.
Any advice from those of you who have left mid-project or sunk a lot of passion/investment into a organization, idea, team and still had a difficult choice of moving on would be much appreciated.
May 3, 2016 at 9:28 pm
xsevensinzx (5/3/2016)
Hey guys,Need some advice. I got a really good job offer recently to work at a company as a DBA. I'm currently a data architect that built and manages a data warehouse for a analytics team. I'm kind of their only tech resource and everything is sort of tied into what I do regardless of my suggestions to hire redundancy for me.
I'm struggling to leave the business hanging, but I'm generally becoming unhappy due to a number of things that likely won't get fixed from a management standpoint. So, I'm kind of forced to seek opportunities elsewhere to continue my growth in my passion for data. Yet, I'm seriously guilt tripping a lot on the impact of that decision.
Any advice from those of you who have left mid-project or sunk a lot of passion/investment into a organization, idea, team and still had a difficult choice of moving on would be much appreciated.
The fact that you have some level of guilt over such things means that you're you're going to make a great DBA for some lucky company. If you can't punch through the limits at your current job and you're sure that you're not a part of that problem and have given it your all (your level of guilt says you have but had to say it), then it is indeed time for a change.
Just make sure that you're not jumping from fat to fire. I did that once because I was young and thrilled with a "great offer". It's not fun. Fortunately, I had an old boss that wanted me back as much as I wanted to go back.
As Grandpa used to say, "Make sure the reason why the grass on the other side of the fence looks greener isn't because there's more s__t to step in over there".
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
May 4, 2016 at 12:36 am
xsevensinzx (5/3/2016)
Hey guys,Need some advice. I got a really good job offer recently to work at a company as a DBA. I'm currently a data architect that built and manages a data warehouse for a analytics team. I'm kind of their only tech resource and everything is sort of tied into what I do regardless of my suggestions to hire redundancy for me.
I'm struggling to leave the business hanging, but I'm generally becoming unhappy due to a number of things that likely won't get fixed from a management standpoint. So, I'm kind of forced to seek opportunities elsewhere to continue my growth in my passion for data. Yet, I'm seriously guilt tripping a lot on the impact of that decision.
Any advice from those of you who have left mid-project or sunk a lot of passion/investment into a organization, idea, team and still had a difficult choice of moving on would be much appreciated.
It's all about team and external items for me. The job is usually similar in many places, though management can certainly make things better or worse. Bottom line for me is that there are always interesting problems and solutions in various jobs.
May 4, 2016 at 12:49 am
Jeff Moden (5/3/2016)
As Grandpa used to say, "Make sure the reason why the grass on the other side of the fence looks greener isn't because there's more s__t to step in over there".
Best quote I have ever heard and I have printed this off to remind me of it for when / if I move.
May 4, 2016 at 5:33 am
xsevensinzx (5/3/2016)
Hey guys,Need some advice. I got a really good job offer recently to work at a company as a DBA. I'm currently a data architect that built and manages a data warehouse for a analytics team. I'm kind of their only tech resource and everything is sort of tied into what I do regardless of my suggestions to hire redundancy for me.
I'm struggling to leave the business hanging, but I'm generally becoming unhappy due to a number of things that likely won't get fixed from a management standpoint. So, I'm kind of forced to seek opportunities elsewhere to continue my growth in my passion for data. Yet, I'm seriously guilt tripping a lot on the impact of that decision.
Any advice from those of you who have left mid-project or sunk a lot of passion/investment into a organization, idea, team and still had a difficult choice of moving on would be much appreciated.
I was in something similar a couple years back and made the choice to move on. All you can do is what's best for you ,your family, and your peace of mind. I would suggest creating as much documentation of what you do and how you do it, something you can give to the analytics team so they can hopefully keep the lights on until management finds a replacement (and then provides the replacement with enough info to not completely break things trying to figure out why something was done the way it was.)
Do the best you can to not leave them in the lurch, but do what you have to for yourself.
May 4, 2016 at 5:34 am
Jeff Moden (5/2/2016)
Jeff Moden (5/2/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/2/2016)
Brandie Tarvin (5/2/2016)
GilaMonster (5/2/2016)
FYIYAY! And we're just now upgrading to 2012!
I feel so far behind the curve... sigh.
If you're so far behind the curve, you aren't alone. We're migrating databases from SQL 2005 to SQL 2012.
Ditto that. Going through that right now except they tried to give me a decade old box for my staging server. It didn't survive. Now I know why we had problems with DR... the hard disk would drop transfer rates to just 3-7MB per second after 12 minutes, which is when cache filled and it went totally synchronous on some drives that are actually slower than USB 2.0 flash drives. I guess they never checked for things like that. Trying to restore 1.5TB of files certainly does. 😛 All the while, they thought it was the DR software. :hehe:
p.s. We've had the 2012 boxes stood up for almost 2 years just sitting there burning trons. It took that long for management to finally agree as to an implementation test period and date. It's a classic Catch-22 where they insisted that we were too busy to test the systems that would make all of us... less busy. 😛
I feel your pain.
May 4, 2016 at 5:37 am
GilaMonster (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
GilaMonster (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Heh. I'm picturing a company where their "office" is nothing more than a cage in a CoLo facility that once a month or so a couple part-time employees go in to hit the servers with compressed air and swap out anything that threw a warning or has hit its end-of-life. The rest of the staff are all sitting at home, or at Starbucks working remotely with work calls forwarded to their phone / Skype / whatever...Once a year, the company has a get-together so the staff can actually *see* each other...
The consulting company I used to work for was like that. Hosted Exchange for mail, no physical office. The one thing, however, that we did need: A meeting room (though one we rented by the hour as needed).
Some clients want to visit a physical location that isn't their office to have a meeting. Strange, but..
Nah, that's the "I can get paid for an 8hr day by driving across town to a 2hr meeting that could have been done over the phone and once it's done, well, darn and golly, how did my golf clubs end up in my trunk?" sort of thing...
😀
Which I was fine with at the time (billing by the hour). I also tended to make diversions after meetings, though not to the golf course. Bookshops however...
Mmmm, bookshops...
On that topic, I can understand the reasons behind the decline of the small, specialty bookshops, but it's still a shame that all we've got around here is Barnes & Noble and...
Barnes & Noble...
Although used bookstores can be fun to browse around, and Gail, if you ever get out Detroit, Michigan, USA way, take some time to visit John K. King Books... Just either leave your wallet and credit cards in your hotel, or come with a wad of cash...
Dang, the budget is tight this week, and I want to go down there...
😀
May 4, 2016 at 5:40 am
xsevensinzx (5/3/2016)
Hey guys,Need some advice. I got a really good job offer recently to work at a company as a DBA. I'm currently a data architect that built and manages a data warehouse for a analytics team. I'm kind of their only tech resource and everything is sort of tied into what I do regardless of my suggestions to hire redundancy for me.
I'm struggling to leave the business hanging, but I'm generally becoming unhappy due to a number of things that likely won't get fixed from a management standpoint. So, I'm kind of forced to seek opportunities elsewhere to continue my growth in my passion for data. Yet, I'm seriously guilt tripping a lot on the impact of that decision.
Any advice from those of you who have left mid-project or sunk a lot of passion/investment into a organization, idea, team and still had a difficult choice of moving on would be much appreciated.
I agree with Moden on the guilt part, the fact that you care enough about the project and do not want to leave the company hanging indicate you are dedicated, a good attribute for a DBA. You stated you made suggestions to add another resource, what reasons do they give you for not bringing another resource on board?
Have you had a conversation with your manager/leadership to voice your concerns?
What do you know about the organization that made the really good offer? How detailed were they in laying out the new role's responsibilities? Did you get the feeling you could work for the hiring manager? Did you meet other team members? Have you done any research on the organization (LinkedIn, Glassdoor, etc.)? Do you know anyone who is or has been employed there? Why is this position open?
Make sure you gather as much information as possible to help you make an informed decision. A common mistake is people are blinded by a large salary or great benefits (which won't matter if you are not happy in your new role). Another mistake is taking a new opportunity to escape a bad situation (as Moden mentioned, jumping from the fat into the fire).
May 4, 2016 at 5:41 am
jasona.work (5/4/2016)
GilaMonster (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
GilaMonster (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Heh. I'm picturing a company where their "office" is nothing more than a cage in a CoLo facility that once a month or so a couple part-time employees go in to hit the servers with compressed air and swap out anything that threw a warning or has hit its end-of-life. The rest of the staff are all sitting at home, or at Starbucks working remotely with work calls forwarded to their phone / Skype / whatever...Once a year, the company has a get-together so the staff can actually *see* each other...
The consulting company I used to work for was like that. Hosted Exchange for mail, no physical office. The one thing, however, that we did need: A meeting room (though one we rented by the hour as needed).
Some clients want to visit a physical location that isn't their office to have a meeting. Strange, but..
Nah, that's the "I can get paid for an 8hr day by driving across town to a 2hr meeting that could have been done over the phone and once it's done, well, darn and golly, how did my golf clubs end up in my trunk?" sort of thing...
😀
Which I was fine with at the time (billing by the hour). I also tended to make diversions after meetings, though not to the golf course. Bookshops however...
Mmmm, bookshops...
On that topic, I can understand the reasons behind the decline of the small, specialty bookshops, but it's still a shame that all we've got around here is Barnes & Noble and...
Barnes & Noble...
Although used bookstores can be fun to browse around, and Gail, if you ever get out Detroit, Michigan, USA way, take some time to visit John K. King Books... Just either leave your wallet and credit cards in your hotel, or come with a wad of cash...
Dang, the budget is tight this week, and I want to go down there...
😀
When I go to Portland, I always end up at Powell's[/url]. And here in Jacksonville, we have Chamblins Bookmine.
Such fun. Such wonderful wonderful fun.
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