May 3, 2016 at 10:31 am
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.
So, if the server is in a locked room, that I don't have access to, on the other side of the building, then I should be OK just using SSMS and RDP, right?
😀
May 3, 2016 at 10:33 am
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.So, if the server is in a locked room, that I don't have access to, on the other side of the building, then I should be OK just using SSMS and RDP, right?
😀
Only way I have access to any of the database servers I have worked with for the last 10+ years.
May 3, 2016 at 10:38 am
Someone needs to find out what company the poster works for and put it on a list of places NEVER to work at no matter what they pay you. If they truly expect a non-DBA tech to manage system DBs on a cluster.....?
May 3, 2016 at 10:49 am
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.So, if the server is in a locked room, that I don't have access to, on the other side of the building, then I should be OK just using SSMS and RDP, right?
😀
Only way I have access to any of the database servers I have worked with for the last 10+ years.
Me too.
May 3, 2016 at 10:53 am
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.So, if the server is in a locked room, that I don't have access to, on the other side of the building, then I should be OK just using SSMS and RDP, right?
😀
Only way I have access to any of the database servers I have worked with for the last 10+ years.
But is that "near" the server?
Of course, this is thinking about physical nearness, I suppose we could be discussing logical nearness, in which case the person in question should be shot out of a cannon...
Into the sun...
(And for the topic that launched this, well, several people need to be loaded into said cannon...)
May 3, 2016 at 10:57 am
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Luis Cazares (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.+1000
I guess I'll agree with your agreement with yourself. 😛
Is this about the system dbs thread?
I should have stayed away!
This is down right scary!
I read the thread. Oh my. The OP isn't even listening to what people are telling them. You're right, that is very scary.
May 3, 2016 at 11:12 am
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.So, if the server is in a locked room, that I don't have access to, on the other side of the building, then I should be OK just using SSMS and RDP, right?
😀
Only way I have access to any of the database servers I have worked with for the last 10+ years.
But is that "near" the server?
Of course, this is thinking about physical nearness, I suppose we could be discussing logical nearness, in which case the person in question should be shot out of a cannon...
Into the sun...
(And for the topic that launched this, well, several people need to be loaded into said cannon...)
Nearness? Let's see, while in Afghanistan supported database servers located at numerous site around the country, even one in Wycombe, UK which required us to first RDP to one of two servers on British bases in Afghanistan before RDPing to Wycombe. This is why I now have a problem with companies that won't consider remote work for DBA/Data Developer positions.
May 3, 2016 at 11:12 am
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Luis Cazares (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.+1000
I guess I'll agree with your agreement with yourself. 😛
Is this about the system dbs thread?
I should have stayed away!
This is down right scary!
I read the thread. Oh my. The OP isn't even listening to what people are telling them. You're right, that is very scary.
Once again, Gail astonishes me with her dogged responses.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Martin Rees
You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead.
Stan Laurel
May 3, 2016 at 11:29 am
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.So, if the server is in a locked room, that I don't have access to, on the other side of the building, then I should be OK just using SSMS and RDP, right?
😀
Only way I have access to any of the database servers I have worked with for the last 10+ years.
But is that "near" the server?
Of course, this is thinking about physical nearness, I suppose we could be discussing logical nearness, in which case the person in question should be shot out of a cannon...
Into the sun...
(And for the topic that launched this, well, several people need to be loaded into said cannon...)
Nearness? Let's see, while in Afghanistan supported database servers located at numerous site around the country, even one in Wycombe, UK which required us to first RDP to one of two servers on British bases in Afghanistan before RDPing to Wycombe. This is why I now have a problem with companies that won't consider remote work for DBA/Data Developer positions.
No argument from me.
I haven't had to touch a server I'm responsible for (at work) in 3 years (although mine are about 50 yards away, nothing like what you had.) It's really gotten to the point where the only people who actually need to physically touch a server are the people who initially set up the server farm (especially when it's a VM environment, then even the "normal" admins don't need to touch the boxes.)
Heh. I'm picturing a company where their "office" is nothing more than a cage in a CoLo facility that once a month or so a couple part-time employees go in to hit the servers with compressed air and swap out anything that threw a warning or has hit its end-of-life. The rest of the staff are all sitting at home, or at Starbucks working remotely with work calls forwarded to their phone / Skype / whatever...
Once a year, the company has a get-together so the staff can actually *see* each other...
May 3, 2016 at 11:35 am
Phil Parkin (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Luis Cazares (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.+1000
I guess I'll agree with your agreement with yourself. 😛
Is this about the system dbs thread?
I should have stayed away!
This is down right scary!
I read the thread. Oh my. The OP isn't even listening to what people are telling them. You're right, that is very scary.
Once again, Gail astonishes me with her dogged responses.
+1000 on that
Just read the thread. Wow, some people will not take no for an answer.
May 3, 2016 at 11:43 am
djj (5/3/2016)
Phil Parkin (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Luis Cazares (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.+1000
I guess I'll agree with your agreement with yourself. 😛
Is this about the system dbs thread?
I should have stayed away!
This is down right scary!
I read the thread. Oh my. The OP isn't even listening to what people are telling them. You're right, that is very scary.
Once again, Gail astonishes me with her dogged responses.
+1000 on that
Just read the thread. Wow, some people will not take no for an answer.
Okay, I'm usually just a lurker on The Thread, but you guys have piqued my curiosity. Where is this thread of which you speak?
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May 3, 2016 at 11:51 am
Ray K (5/3/2016)
djj (5/3/2016)
Phil Parkin (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Luis Cazares (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.+1000
I guess I'll agree with your agreement with yourself. 😛
Is this about the system dbs thread?
I should have stayed away!
This is down right scary!
I read the thread. Oh my. The OP isn't even listening to what people are telling them. You're right, that is very scary.
Once again, Gail astonishes me with her dogged responses.
+1000 on that
Just read the thread. Wow, some people will not take no for an answer.
Okay, I'm usually just a lurker on The Thread, but you guys have piqued my curiosity. Where is this thread of which you speak?
Never mind. I think I found it.
Oh my.
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May 3, 2016 at 11:58 am
Ray K (5/3/2016)
Ray K (5/3/2016)
djj (5/3/2016)
Phil Parkin (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Luis Cazares (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.+1000
I guess I'll agree with your agreement with yourself. 😛
Is this about the system dbs thread?
I should have stayed away!
This is down right scary!
I read the thread. Oh my. The OP isn't even listening to what people are telling them. You're right, that is very scary.
Once again, Gail astonishes me with her dogged responses.
+1000 on that
Just read the thread. Wow, some people will not take no for an answer.
Okay, I'm usually just a lurker on The Thread, but you guys have piqued my curiosity. Where is this thread of which you speak?
Never mind. I think I found it.
Oh my.
Not seeing the forest:-D
😎
May 3, 2016 at 12:10 pm
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
jasona.work (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.So, if the server is in a locked room, that I don't have access to, on the other side of the building, then I should be OK just using SSMS and RDP, right?
😀
Only way I have access to any of the database servers I have worked with for the last 10+ years.
But is that "near" the server?
Of course, this is thinking about physical nearness, I suppose we could be discussing logical nearness, in which case the person in question should be shot out of a cannon...
Into the sun...
(And for the topic that launched this, well, several people need to be loaded into said cannon...)
Nearness? Let's see, while in Afghanistan supported database servers located at numerous site around the country, even one in Wycombe, UK which required us to first RDP to one of two servers on British bases in Afghanistan before RDPing to Wycombe. This is why I now have a problem with companies that won't consider remote work for DBA/Data Developer positions.
No argument from me.
I haven't had to touch a server I'm responsible for (at work) in 3 years (although mine are about 50 yards away, nothing like what you had.) It's really gotten to the point where the only people who actually need to physically touch a server are the people who initially set up the server farm (especially when it's a VM environment, then even the "normal" admins don't need to touch the boxes.)
Heh. I'm picturing a company where their "office" is nothing more than a cage in a CoLo facility that once a month or so a couple part-time employees go in to hit the servers with compressed air and swap out anything that threw a warning or has hit its end-of-life. The rest of the staff are all sitting at home, or at Starbucks working remotely with work calls forwarded to their phone / Skype / whatever...
Once a year, the company has a get-together so the staff can actually *see* each other...
Last two jobs, all hardware access was completely done by the server team. It's been well over six years since I touched a server I managed. And now that we are virtualizing everything, I may never touch a server ever again.
May 3, 2016 at 12:14 pm
Eirikur Eiriksson (5/3/2016)
Ray K (5/3/2016)
Ray K (5/3/2016)
djj (5/3/2016)
Phil Parkin (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Luis Cazares (5/3/2016)
Ed Wagner (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Lynn Pettis (5/3/2016)
Some people should not be allowed any where near a database server.+1000
I guess I'll agree with your agreement with yourself. 😛
Is this about the system dbs thread?
I should have stayed away!
This is down right scary!
I read the thread. Oh my. The OP isn't even listening to what people are telling them. You're right, that is very scary.
Once again, Gail astonishes me with her dogged responses.
+1000 on that
Just read the thread. Wow, some people will not take no for an answer.
Okay, I'm usually just a lurker on The Thread, but you guys have piqued my curiosity. Where is this thread of which you speak?
Never mind. I think I found it.
Oh my.
Not seeing the forest:-D
😎
Funny thing is, this gave me an idea for a possible presentation topic.
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