March 23, 2016 at 9:38 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (3/23/2016)
BL0B_EATER (3/23/2016)
I might get slapped by asking this but what does it take to get an MVP award? ( just curious). To the people that hold one is it your presentation skills? Videos you make? Books you write?What Grant said, but really it's participate in the community, in a magical way that satisfies the current MS criteria (unknown), enough to beat out the others doing similar things.
From what I've understood, there is a budget for MVPs, for each technology. Each quarter, 1/4 of the budget is spent on new/renewed MVPs. The list is ranked and the top xx are awarded. The quarter you are in depends on when you are (were) nominated for the award. I'm Jan 1. Not sure when Grant is.
It's a combination of influence, which can be more technical (Itzik Ben Gan) or more community focused (me). Somehow this is ranked and ordered, with a cutoff line based on budget.
Very interesting - especially what Grant said about the Data Platform element ( Not just SQL server - I'm guessing its all around Azure and BI as well). Sounds like you need to have a powerful name to get on "the list".
Thanks for Sharing Steve / Grant
March 23, 2016 at 9:45 am
BL0B_EATER (3/23/2016)
I might get slapped by asking this but what does it take to get an MVP award? ( just curious). To the people that hold one is it your presentation skills? Videos you make? Books you write?
It seems that currently you have to wait for an existing MVP to not be renewed. Maybe they started working at MS (MS'ers can't be MVPs). Maybe they did something to get themselves removed (it does happen, though rarely). Maybe they resigned from being a MVP. Or, worst case, maybe they ceased to exist. In any case, it seems that openings are currently created only when someone drops off the current MVP list.
Wayne
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March 23, 2016 at 9:50 am
BL0B_EATER (3/23/2016)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (3/23/2016)
BL0B_EATER (3/23/2016)
I might get slapped by asking this but what does it take to get an MVP award? ( just curious). To the people that hold one is it your presentation skills? Videos you make? Books you write?What Grant said, but really it's participate in the community, in a magical way that satisfies the current MS criteria (unknown), enough to beat out the others doing similar things.
From what I've understood, there is a budget for MVPs, for each technology. Each quarter, 1/4 of the budget is spent on new/renewed MVPs. The list is ranked and the top xx are awarded. The quarter you are in depends on when you are (were) nominated for the award. I'm Jan 1. Not sure when Grant is.
It's a combination of influence, which can be more technical (Itzik Ben Gan) or more community focused (me). Somehow this is ranked and ordered, with a cutoff line based on budget.
Very interesting - especially what Grant said about the Data Platform element ( Not just SQL server - I'm guessing its all around Azure and BI as well). Sounds like you need to have a powerful name to get on "the list".
Thanks for Sharing Steve / Grant
I'm not sure about the powerful name requirement (I made it in).
Yes data platform encompasses BI and some of Azure. If you do a lot of dynamics community stuff, that is still a separate beast for MVP.
My take on it is they want an MVP to be a little more rounded in the MS technology. For example, there is a big focus on PowerShell across the different technologies at MS. Too many people don't use PowerShell. So, Microsoft has realigned things for MVPs to try and encourage a bigger breadth of technology and influence. In other words, start demonstrating community involvement in more than just SQL Server. Start including Azure, PoSH, Dynamics etc in your community work. When it cuts down to the nuts and bolts, we as technologists need to know a little more than just SQL Server to be efficient at what we do and to help build lasting solutions.
I am not saying this is the actual MS viewpoint, but just my perception of how it is going with the new direction in the MVP program.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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March 23, 2016 at 10:23 am
How many of you contractors have been so taken with a gig that you've signed up as a permie? I just did. I never expected that.
The idea of presenting fills me with irrational fear, and yet yesterday I gave a one-hour presentation on query tuning and execution plan basics to an alarmingly large group here in the biggest meeting room we have ("we"! Did you notice that?), and it wasn't too bad. They want more, Tuning Tuesdays, every other week. I never expected that.
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March 23, 2016 at 10:26 am
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor (3/23/2016)
BL0B_EATER (3/23/2016)
I might get slapped by asking this but what does it take to get an MVP award? ( just curious). To the people that hold one is it your presentation skills? Videos you make? Books you write?What Grant said, but really it's participate in the community, in a magical way that satisfies the current MS criteria (unknown), enough to beat out the others doing similar things.
From what I've understood, there is a budget for MVPs, for each technology. Each quarter, 1/4 of the budget is spent on new/renewed MVPs. The list is ranked and the top xx are awarded. The quarter you are in depends on when you are (were) nominated for the award. I'm Jan 1. Not sure when Grant is.
It's a combination of influence, which can be more technical (Itzik Ben Gan) or more community focused (me). Somehow this is ranked and ordered, with a cutoff line based on budget.
Very interesting - especially what Grant said about the Data Platform element ( Not just SQL server - I'm guessing its all around Azure and BI as well). Sounds like you need to have a powerful name to get on "the list".
Thanks for Sharing Steve / Grant
I'm not sure about the powerful name requirement (I made it in).
Yes data platform encompasses BI and some of Azure. If you do a lot of dynamics community stuff, that is still a separate beast for MVP.
My take on it is they want an MVP to be a little more rounded in the MS technology. For example, there is a big focus on PowerShell across the different technologies at MS. Too many people don't use PowerShell. So, Microsoft has realigned things for MVPs to try and encourage a bigger breadth of technology and influence. In other words, start demonstrating community involvement in more than just SQL Server. Start including Azure, PoSH, Dynamics etc in your community work. When it cuts down to the nuts and bolts, we as technologists need to know a little more than just SQL Server to be efficient at what we do and to help build lasting solutions.
I am not saying this is the actual MS viewpoint, but just my perception of how it is going with the new direction in the MVP program.
What you are not a powerful name? 😉
In UK I think we have had three new MVP's in the data platform space since the name change. I think it was a combination of higher budget following the change and maybe a current MVP or two not getting renewed. Will be interesting to see what happens on April 1st.
Rodders...
March 23, 2016 at 10:29 am
BL0B_EATER (3/23/2016)
I might get slapped by asking this but what does it take to get an MVP award? ( just curious). To the people that hold one is it your presentation skills? Videos you make? Books you write?
There is not a published hard and fast criteria. It is really about being involved in the community educating people about Microsoft technologies.
Jack Corbett
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March 23, 2016 at 10:33 am
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I might get slapped by asking this but what does it take to get an MVP award? ( just curious). To the people that hold one is it your presentation skills? Videos you make? Books you write?There is no apparent magic formula. The best advice, do what MVPs do. For the Data Platform MVPs, we've been required to fill out our profile at Microsoft. You can see them here[/url]. Further, if you don't see yourself doing all that stuff naturally, then you don't want to be an MVP. It would suck.
The requirements seem to be changing. We haven't see evidence of it yet, but I suspect, except for a few superstars, people who only ever do SQL Server are on the way out. They changed the name to Data Platform for a reason. The focus seems to be more and more on interaction in forums, but interestingly enough, the forums that I was specifically told about were MSDN and StackExchange. I had to push this forum on to them.
The existing MVPs have a free ride through June renewal. After that, expect a bloody purge during the October renewal cycle.
I'm an October awardee and fully expect that I will no longer be an MVP this October 1. But since sign-ups for the MVP Summit are well before that I should get one more MVP Summit in.
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March 23, 2016 at 10:34 am
ChrisM@Work (3/23/2016)
How many of you contractors have been so taken with a gig that you've signed up as a permie? I just did. I never expected that.The idea of presenting fills me with irrational fear, and yet yesterday I gave a one-hour presentation on query tuning and execution plan basics to an alarmingly large group here in the biggest meeting room we have ("we"! Did you notice that?), and it wasn't too bad. They want more, Tuning Tuesdays, every other week. I never expected that.
Good job mate and glad you survived 😀
😎
March 23, 2016 at 10:37 am
ChrisM@Work (3/23/2016)
How many of you contractors have been so taken with a gig that you've signed up as a permie? I just did. I never expected that.The idea of presenting fills me with irrational fear, and yet yesterday I gave a one-hour presentation on query tuning and execution plan basics to an alarmingly large group here in the biggest meeting room we have ("we"! Did you notice that?), and it wasn't too bad. They want more, Tuning Tuesdays, every other week. I never expected that.
Been there, done that (a couple months ago.)
I wasn't an independent contractor, but working for the company that held the contract to provide various and sundry services (.NET developers, Sharepoint, etc) Said contract was going to go up for bids this year, the guys who'd been there a while indicated that while it was entirely likely I'd still be there, pay cuts with whoever got the contract (likely not the same company) were a distinct possibility. The other possibility was that whoever got the contract would bring in their own people, and I'd be out...
So, when the option came to go FTE, I took it. I like the work, I like the people, and I especially like the stability...
March 23, 2016 at 10:46 am
jasona.work (3/23/2016)
ChrisM@Work (3/23/2016)
How many of you contractors have been so taken with a gig that you've signed up as a permie? I just did. I never expected that.The idea of presenting fills me with irrational fear, and yet yesterday I gave a one-hour presentation on query tuning and execution plan basics to an alarmingly large group here in the biggest meeting room we have ("we"! Did you notice that?), and it wasn't too bad. They want more, Tuning Tuesdays, every other week. I never expected that.
Been there, done that (a couple months ago.)
I wasn't an independent contractor, but working for the company that held the contract to provide various and sundry services (.NET developers, Sharepoint, etc) Said contract was going to go up for bids this year, the guys who'd been there a while indicated that while it was entirely likely I'd still be there, pay cuts with whoever got the contract (likely not the same company) were a distinct possibility. The other possibility was that whoever got the contract would bring in their own people, and I'd be out...
So, when the option came to go FTE, I took it. I like the work, I like the people, and I especially like the stability...
Thanks for that Jason. It was the people and the work which swung it for me too. My GF has been moaning at me for ten years to go permie for the stability, so that's another pin down. And going on paid holiday without any worries will be novel, when the time arrives 🙂
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March 23, 2016 at 10:48 am
Eirikur Eiriksson (3/23/2016)
ChrisM@Work (3/23/2016)
How many of you contractors have been so taken with a gig that you've signed up as a permie? I just did. I never expected that.The idea of presenting fills me with irrational fear, and yet yesterday I gave a one-hour presentation on query tuning and execution plan basics to an alarmingly large group here in the biggest meeting room we have ("we"! Did you notice that?), and it wasn't too bad. They want more, Tuning Tuesdays, every other week. I never expected that.
Good job mate and glad you survived 😀
😎
Thanks EE! I'll be tapping you for ideas next time we meet up for beers 🙂
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March 23, 2016 at 10:51 am
jasona.work (3/23/2016)
ChrisM@Work (3/23/2016)
How many of you contractors have been so taken with a gig that you've signed up as a permie? I just did. I never expected that.The idea of presenting fills me with irrational fear, and yet yesterday I gave a one-hour presentation on query tuning and execution plan basics to an alarmingly large group here in the biggest meeting room we have ("we"! Did you notice that?), and it wasn't too bad. They want more, Tuning Tuesdays, every other week. I never expected that.
Been there, done that (a couple months ago.)
I wasn't an independent contractor, but working for the company that held the contract to provide various and sundry services (.NET developers, Sharepoint, etc) Said contract was going to go up for bids this year, the guys who'd been there a while indicated that while it was entirely likely I'd still be there, pay cuts with whoever got the contract (likely not the same company) were a distinct possibility. The other possibility was that whoever got the contract would bring in their own people, and I'd be out...
So, when the option came to go FTE, I took it. I like the work, I like the people, and I especially like the stability...
Seen this multiple times. My wife got a job like this. Easy to do, if there is a good relationship. I've also see FTEs offered contracting jobs.
March 23, 2016 at 11:57 am
I'd ask if it made me odd to be enjoying puttering around and tweaking a report in SSRS (with no guarantee that it will even be used) to get it into something that I like?
Which, considering this is also my *first* SSRS report...
March 23, 2016 at 12:13 pm
jasona.work (3/23/2016)
I'd ask if it made me odd to be enjoying puttering around and tweaking a report in SSRS (with no guarantee that it will even be used) to get it into something that I like?Which, considering this is also my *first* SSRS report...
Nah. What would be odd would be if you said you were enjoying doing some SharePoint development work.
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March 23, 2016 at 12:16 pm
Phil Parkin (3/23/2016)
jasona.work (3/23/2016)
I'd ask if it made me odd to be enjoying puttering around and tweaking a report in SSRS (with no guarantee that it will even be used) to get it into something that I like?Which, considering this is also my *first* SSRS report...
Nah. What would be odd would be if you said you were enjoying doing some SharePoint development work.
I'll maintain the database server on the back-end, but I won't touch the Sharepoint itself (not that it matters, we were required to pass control of our Sharepoint farm to another location about a year or so back...)
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