January 19, 2016 at 5:54 am
GilaMonster (1/19/2016)
Talking about dressing up a CV, the last time I used an agency (well over 10 years ago), they sent me to an interview. At the time I was a web developer who dabbled in SQL and my CV bore that out (plus some MS Access skills),I can't remember what the interviewer asked, but it was nothing related to web development. After a couple questions that I couldn't even begin to answer, I asked the interviewer what position this interview was for. Project Manager/Business Analyst. Thinking maybe the agency had mixed up the location, I stammered an apology and explained I was a web developer.
"But your CV claims 5 years of project management experience", replies the interviewer, angry, and handed me the CV which the agency had sent him.
My details, my work experience, with modified projects and responsibilities, and a completely fictional skill matrix.
Wow, I've heard of small changes, missing parts out, "enhancing" sections by agencies, but that takes the biscuit. :O
Rodders...
January 19, 2016 at 6:04 am
Just over heard someone saying we need to sanitise the phones first...
No one mention the Golgafrincham b ark !
Rodders...
January 19, 2016 at 6:32 am
Hugo Kornelis (1/19/2016)
BL0B_EATER (1/19/2016)
Oh sorry forgot to mention they also asked me who Paul Randal is / what a MVP is? ( Only because I put down my mentoring / training relationship with him) .... FACEPALM.Ha! I think I can top that. I have also had a phone conversation with an interviewer who had no clue what the MVP award is - but in my case, the interviewer was a Microsoft HR employee, interviewing for a position in Microsoft...
Hugo, you win!
January 19, 2016 at 6:33 am
GilaMonster (1/19/2016)
Talking about dressing up a CV, the last time I used an agency (well over 10 years ago), they sent me to an interview. At the time I was a web developer who dabbled in SQL and my CV bore that out (plus some MS Access skills),I can't remember what the interviewer asked, but it was nothing related to web development. After a couple questions that I couldn't even begin to answer, I asked the interviewer what position this interview was for. Project Manager/Business Analyst. Thinking maybe the agency had mixed up the location, I stammered an apology and explained I was a web developer.
"But your CV claims 5 years of project management experience", replies the interviewer, angry, and handed me the CV which the agency had sent him.
My details, my work experience, with modified projects and responsibilities, and a completely fictional skill matrix.
That's not good - what was the agency's reply? I got sent to an interview for an IT based role... first question, why do you want to be an accountant? mhhhhh. Not a great start.
January 19, 2016 at 6:40 am
Grumpy DBA (1/19/2016)
RIP Glenn Frey, co-founder of the Eagles. Only 67 years old, left this world much too soon.Did Ramsey play last night?
Yeah, I heard about that on my drive into work. This needs to stop some time soon.
January 19, 2016 at 6:43 am
BL0B_EATER (1/19/2016)
Hugo Kornelis (1/19/2016)
BL0B_EATER (1/19/2016)
Oh sorry forgot to mention they also asked me who Paul Randal is / what a MVP is? ( Only because I put down my mentoring / training relationship with him) .... FACEPALM.Ha! I think I can top that. I have also had a phone conversation with an interviewer who had no clue what the MVP award is - but in my case, the interviewer was a Microsoft HR employee, interviewing for a position in Microsoft...
Hugo, you win!
Yup, that just might take the cake. Pretty sad, but somehow not as unexpected as we've come to expect nowadays.
January 19, 2016 at 6:48 am
Ed Wagner (1/19/2016)
Grumpy DBA (1/19/2016)
RIP Glenn Frey, co-founder of the Eagles. Only 67 years old, left this world much too soon.Did Ramsey play last night?
Yeah, I heard about that on my drive into work. This needs to stop some time soon.
Again, someone else who is in my music collection has left this mortal coil.
As someone pointed out - Bass (Lemmy), Vocals (Bowie), Drums (Dale Griffin - Mott The Hoople) and now Guitar (Frey)...
If I were a keyboard player I'd be worried at the moment.
Rodders...
January 19, 2016 at 6:57 am
rodjkidd (1/19/2016)
Ed Wagner (1/19/2016)
Grumpy DBA (1/19/2016)
RIP Glenn Frey, co-founder of the Eagles. Only 67 years old, left this world much too soon.Did Ramsey play last night?
Yeah, I heard about that on my drive into work. This needs to stop some time soon.
Again, someone else who is in my music collection has left this mortal coil.
As someone pointed out - Bass (Lemmy), Vocals (Bowie), Drums (Dale Griffin - Mott The Hoople) and now Guitar (Frey)...
If I were a keyboard player I'd be worried at the moment.
Rodders...
Chinese whispers - they called for Rick Wakeman and got Alan Rickman!
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January 19, 2016 at 6:59 am
BL0B_EATER (1/19/2016)
GilaMonster (1/19/2016)
Talking about dressing up a CV, the last time I used an agency (well over 10 years ago), they sent me to an interview. At the time I was a web developer who dabbled in SQL and my CV bore that out (plus some MS Access skills),I can't remember what the interviewer asked, but it was nothing related to web development. After a couple questions that I couldn't even begin to answer, I asked the interviewer what position this interview was for. Project Manager/Business Analyst. Thinking maybe the agency had mixed up the location, I stammered an apology and explained I was a web developer.
"But your CV claims 5 years of project management experience", replies the interviewer, angry, and handed me the CV which the agency had sent him.
My details, my work experience, with modified projects and responsibilities, and a completely fictional skill matrix.
That's not good - what was the agency's reply?
I think the excuse was 'there must have been a mix up'. Yeah, right.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
January 19, 2016 at 7:05 am
Ed Wagner (1/19/2016)
BL0B_EATER (1/19/2016)
Hugo Kornelis (1/19/2016)
BL0B_EATER (1/19/2016)
Oh sorry forgot to mention they also asked me who Paul Randal is / what a MVP is? ( Only because I put down my mentoring / training relationship with him) .... FACEPALM.Ha! I think I can top that. I have also had a phone conversation with an interviewer who had no clue what the MVP award is - but in my case, the interviewer was a Microsoft HR employee, interviewing for a position in Microsoft...
Hugo, you win!
Yup, that just might take the cake. Pretty sad, but somehow not as unexpected as we've come to expect nowadays.
At Microsoft the left hand never knows (admits) what the right hand is doing. 🙂
January 19, 2016 at 7:08 am
Grant Fritchey (1/19/2016)
Koen Verbeeck (1/19/2016)
Grant Fritchey (1/19/2016)
BL0B_EATER (1/19/2016)
Oh sorry forgot to mention they also asked me who Paul Randal is / what a MVP is? ( Only because I put down my mentoring / training relationship with him) .... FACEPALM.I've had lots of interviews where people say stuff "It says Microsoft MVP at the top of your resume... That's nice.... What's an MVP?"
It's actually not as well known as we all like to think it is. Same thing with names like Paul Randal. For a long time at events, I would ask people, "Who knows the name Adam Machanic/Brent Ozar/Kim Tripp/?" and you get maybe 1/3 of the audience who knows them all and the rest who don't have a clue. I try not to let that lack of knowledge be a deciding factor on my interest in the organization (although, it does influence me).
True true.
Sometimes when I arrive at a new client they tell me they googled/binged my name. "Wow, you write blog posts apparently"
Most of the time I'm surprised if people know me (or other community members) in advance.
Then there was the guy who had me come to the interview just because he wanted to play "Stump the Chump." He proceeded to ask a million detailed syntax questions and object limits. The interview ended with "Well, I expected more from an MVP." The job was crap anyway.
Been there done that more than once.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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January 19, 2016 at 7:10 am
GilaMonster (1/19/2016)
Talking about dressing up a CV, the last time I used an agency (well over 10 years ago), they sent me to an interview. At the time I was a web developer who dabbled in SQL and my CV bore that out (plus some MS Access skills),I can't remember what the interviewer asked, but it was nothing related to web development. After a couple questions that I couldn't even begin to answer, I asked the interviewer what position this interview was for. Project Manager/Business Analyst. Thinking maybe the agency had mixed up the location, I stammered an apology and explained I was a web developer.
"But your CV claims 5 years of project management experience", replies the interviewer, angry, and handed me the CV which the agency had sent him.
My details, my work experience, with modified projects and responsibilities, and a completely fictional skill matrix.
This kind of stuff is more fun when you find they have been dressing up other people's resumes with your resume. Just replace name on resume and it works fantastic for any bloke off the street. I was interviewing for my replacement once and came across my resume in the stack with somebody else's name on it. Yeah that is fun!
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
_______________________________________________
I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events
January 19, 2016 at 7:16 am
SQLRNNR (1/19/2016)
Grant Fritchey (1/19/2016)
Koen Verbeeck (1/19/2016)
Grant Fritchey (1/19/2016)
BL0B_EATER (1/19/2016)
Oh sorry forgot to mention they also asked me who Paul Randal is / what a MVP is? ( Only because I put down my mentoring / training relationship with him) .... FACEPALM.I've had lots of interviews where people say stuff "It says Microsoft MVP at the top of your resume... That's nice.... What's an MVP?"
It's actually not as well known as we all like to think it is. Same thing with names like Paul Randal. For a long time at events, I would ask people, "Who knows the name Adam Machanic/Brent Ozar/Kim Tripp/?" and you get maybe 1/3 of the audience who knows them all and the rest who don't have a clue. I try not to let that lack of knowledge be a deciding factor on my interest in the organization (although, it does influence me).
True true.
Sometimes when I arrive at a new client they tell me they googled/binged my name. "Wow, you write blog posts apparently"
Most of the time I'm surprised if people know me (or other community members) in advance.
Then there was the guy who had me come to the interview just because he wanted to play "Stump the Chump." He proceeded to ask a million detailed syntax questions and object limits. The interview ended with "Well, I expected more from an MVP." The job was crap anyway.
Been there done that more than once.
That's just plain rude. He expected more? Well I expect better manners from the guy asking questions.
January 19, 2016 at 7:17 am
SQLRNNR (1/19/2016)
GilaMonster (1/19/2016)
Talking about dressing up a CV, the last time I used an agency (well over 10 years ago), they sent me to an interview. At the time I was a web developer who dabbled in SQL and my CV bore that out (plus some MS Access skills),I can't remember what the interviewer asked, but it was nothing related to web development. After a couple questions that I couldn't even begin to answer, I asked the interviewer what position this interview was for. Project Manager/Business Analyst. Thinking maybe the agency had mixed up the location, I stammered an apology and explained I was a web developer.
"But your CV claims 5 years of project management experience", replies the interviewer, angry, and handed me the CV which the agency had sent him.
My details, my work experience, with modified projects and responsibilities, and a completely fictional skill matrix.
This kind of stuff is more fun when you find they have been dressing up other people's resumes with your resume. Just replace name on resume and it works fantastic for any bloke off the street. I was interviewing for my replacement once and came across my resume in the stack with somebody else's name on it. Yeah that is fun!
Please tell me they at least dropped the MCM / MVP tag??? If not then that's a double epic failure.
January 19, 2016 at 7:27 am
GilaMonster (1/19/2016)
BL0B_EATER (1/19/2016)
GilaMonster (1/19/2016)
Talking about dressing up a CV, the last time I used an agency (well over 10 years ago), they sent me to an interview. At the time I was a web developer who dabbled in SQL and my CV bore that out (plus some MS Access skills),I can't remember what the interviewer asked, but it was nothing related to web development. After a couple questions that I couldn't even begin to answer, I asked the interviewer what position this interview was for. Project Manager/Business Analyst. Thinking maybe the agency had mixed up the location, I stammered an apology and explained I was a web developer.
"But your CV claims 5 years of project management experience", replies the interviewer, angry, and handed me the CV which the agency had sent him.
My details, my work experience, with modified projects and responsibilities, and a completely fictional skill matrix.
That's not good - what was the agency's reply?
I think the excuse was 'there must have been a mix up'. Yeah, right.
Sounds like a pretty lame excuse to me. Did you thrash the agency later?
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