Are the posted questions getting worse?
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SQLRNNR (12/4/2015)
Jeff Moden (12/4/2015)
K. Thanks. Something's wrong. Nothing in my spam locker, either.It's happened off and on.
Sometimes tweaking your subscriptions (delete on and re-add it) helps.
K. Thanks. I have roughly 35,000 posts I'm subscribed to over the last 10 years. Any idea how to quickly find the subscription for this thread?
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Jeff, there was something about email changes few weeks back, are you forward in the notifications across domains?
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Eirikur Eiriksson (12/5/2015)
Jeff, there was something about email changes few weeks back, are you forward in the notifications across domains?😎
I get notifications OK despite them being forwarded across several domains (the mail address I use here is a relay provided by bcs.org, which uses gradwell.net to relay to one of my btinternet.com email accounts, which in turn parks the mail on a Yahoo.com server. Despite the email being stored on a Yahoo server, I generally access it using IMAP to a BT server; I imagine Jeff's email forwarding is nothing like as bizarre as mine.
The BT email and Yahoo thing is (a) very old, (b) rather crazy, and (c) being replaced by an all BT service. BT have been in the middle of replacing it for a rather long time, and occassionally screwing their email service pretty messily when changing the interface their customers see without even eliminating the Yahoo element (just as well - sometimes it was easier to fix BT email problems using the webmail interface at mail.yahoo.com than through the official BT route). They've been sending me reminders that the switch over will be completed in a couple of months for a couple of years now. :rolleyes:
Tom
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BrainDonor (12/7/2015)
I don't think that your answer is right. I believe that your answer is wrong.I don't know what the answer is.
Helpful, so very, very helpful.
Tell me I'm wrong but not what the correct answer is.
My apologies, I just need to vent to somebody.
Sounds like the wrong answer for the wrong question
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Eirikur Eiriksson (12/7/2015)
BrainDonor (12/7/2015)
I don't think that your answer is right. I believe that your answer is wrong.I don't know what the answer is.
Helpful, so very, very helpful.
Tell me I'm wrong but not what the correct answer is.
My apologies, I just need to vent to somebody.
Sounds like the wrong answer for the wrong question
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There are many cases where it's the only sensible response. For example if you say that the answer to "Is there any effectively computable function that is not computationally equivalent to a recursive function on the non-negative integers" is "Yes" every competent mathematician or computer scientist in the world will say "I believe you are wrong but I don't know for certain". Most of the incompetent ones will say "I know you are wrong, the right answer is "No", but the sort of lunatic who believess (a) that he has a valid means of squaring the circle using only straight-edge and compass and (b) that non-Euclidean geometry is a communist conspiracy to confuse American mathematicians will probably say "Yes, you are right".
Equally frustrating is the case where the correct response is "I know you are wrong but I don't know the right answer" which is also quite common; for example if you tell me that the most efficient method of computing the inverse of non-singular square matrix is the recursive descent method (O(n!) for an nXn matrix) I certainly know you are wrong (because the Newton-Raphson method is O(n^2)), but while I am extremely sure that there is no effective method that is better than O(n^2) I've never seen (or bothered to construct) a proof of that so I don't know it, and even if that is correct it doesn't follow that no other O(n^2) method is faster (but not less computationlly complex) than Newton-Raphson so I certainly don't know that Newton-Raphson is the fastest method. But school children are often taught that the recursive descent method is the only way to do it (and I can recall several ocassions where computer scientists have been driven to strong language on the topic, and have to admit that there have been times when I've succumbed to the temptation to explode myself when dealing with computer "scientists" whose CS qualifications apparently had zero maths content and zero computational science content and zero logic content. (One member of Bob Kowalski's team told me recursive descent would be faster in a functional language than Newton-Raphson, and din't even understand that the recursive descent algorithm can't provide proper pivot selection to minimise rounding error when using inexact arithmetic - and of course inexact arithetic is what you end up using unless you have a rational type and can avoid irrational values such as p and e and v2 and h and so on, which is often hard when dealing with the real (no pun intended) world.
Tom
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Oh, I know Tom, but I think it just touched a nerve this morning. I spent about an hour playing with the code, searching for articles related to the issue, trying various things out that indicated where the issue might be. I couldn't provide a definite answer, but I did provide evidence that indicated where the issue might be.
To then have somebody say "Nope, it can't be that" without any type of working or evidence just annoyed me.
I don't always spend a great deal of time looking at issues - if somebody posts an problem that I have no immediate idea with I normally leave it, because I don't always have the time and there are so many people out there that have more experience. This time something interested me about it and I took the time out to look further.
I'll get over it. I'm used to being told I'm wrong without proof - I have kids.
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As of today I have only taken 4 days of PTO this year. REALLY looking forward to taking the family to Disney world later this week. My wife's company holiday part is in Orlando. She leaves Wednesday and the boys and I are heading out on Thursday. It is a large fortune to take the family there but this is probably the last time. The boys are 10 and 7 so they will both still really get engaged with the magic. We went 3 years ago and the younger one barely remembers it and even our older one only remembers some of it. Looking forward to some much need R&R.
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Sean Lange (12/7/2015)
As of today I have only taken 4 days of PTO this year. REALLY looking forward to taking the family to Disney world later this week. My wife's company holiday part is in Orlando. She leaves Wednesday and the boys and I are heading out on Thursday. It is a large fortune to take the family there but this is probably the last time. The boys are 10 and 7 so they will both still really get engaged with the magic. We went 3 years ago and the younger one barely remembers it and even our older one only remembers some of it. Looking forward to some much need R&R.It's a time of the year to go too. Summertime in Orlando is a humid drag. They just opened a ton of new Star Wars stuff of you're into that.
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Alan.B (12/7/2015)
Sean Lange (12/7/2015)
As of today I have only taken 4 days of PTO this year. REALLY looking forward to taking the family to Disney world later this week. My wife's company holiday part is in Orlando. She leaves Wednesday and the boys and I are heading out on Thursday. It is a large fortune to take the family there but this is probably the last time. The boys are 10 and 7 so they will both still really get engaged with the magic. We went 3 years ago and the younger one barely remembers it and even our older one only remembers some of it. Looking forward to some much need R&R.It's a time of the year to go too. Summertime in Orlando is a humid drag. They just opened a ton of new Star Wars stuff of you're into that.
It is going to stupid humid and likely thunderstorms for a majority of our time which really stinks but who knows. There is always rain during the day in central florida each day so that isn't a shocker.
There is a ton of new star wars stuff and that is super exciting. A little nervous about availability of this as the waits have been crazy long for these attractions as the excitement of the new movie is a bit crazy right now. The time frame we are going is actually one of the best weeks of the year for low crowds the entire year. It is just before the christmas holiday and the crowds are historically very low (of course that is somewhat relative). Even the worst ride wait times are still pretty reasonable (by disney expectations) this time of year. Just have to plan the rides you really want and hit those early along with fast pass and it will all work out ok.
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BrainDonor (12/8/2015)
Here's one I've never seen before - every thread on a full page of the search started by the same person.Someone is very busy.
Too busy for RTFM
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Sean Lange (12/7/2015)
Alan.B (12/7/2015)
Sean Lange (12/7/2015)
As of today I have only taken 4 days of PTO this year. REALLY looking forward to taking the family to Disney world later this week. My wife's company holiday part is in Orlando. She leaves Wednesday and the boys and I are heading out on Thursday. It is a large fortune to take the family there but this is probably the last time. The boys are 10 and 7 so they will both still really get engaged with the magic. We went 3 years ago and the younger one barely remembers it and even our older one only remembers some of it. Looking forward to some much need R&R.It's a time of the year to go too. Summertime in Orlando is a humid drag. They just opened a ton of new Star Wars stuff of you're into that.
It is going to stupid humid and likely thunderstorms for a majority of our time which really stinks but who knows. There is always rain during the day in central florida each day so that isn't a shocker.
There is a ton of new star wars stuff and that is super exciting. A little nervous about availability of this as the waits have been crazy long for these attractions as the excitement of the new movie is a bit crazy right now. The time frame we are going is actually one of the best weeks of the year for low crowds the entire year. It is just before the christmas holiday and the crowds are historically very low (of course that is somewhat relative). Even the worst ride wait times are still pretty reasonable (by disney expectations) this time of year. Just have to plan the rides you really want and hit those early along with fast pass and it will all work out ok.
Have fun, Sean. It's a great vacation.
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Eirikur Eiriksson (12/8/2015)
BrainDonor (12/8/2015)
Here's one I've never seen before - every thread on a full page of the search started by the same person.Someone is very busy.
Too busy for RTFM
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Now there's a term I haven't heard in a while. I loved it when it first came out. Too bad it's still so very true.
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Ed Wagner (12/8/2015)
Sean Lange (12/7/2015)
Alan.B (12/7/2015)
Sean Lange (12/7/2015)
As of today I have only taken 4 days of PTO this year. REALLY looking forward to taking the family to Disney world later this week. My wife's company holiday part is in Orlando. She leaves Wednesday and the boys and I are heading out on Thursday. It is a large fortune to take the family there but this is probably the last time. The boys are 10 and 7 so they will both still really get engaged with the magic. We went 3 years ago and the younger one barely remembers it and even our older one only remembers some of it. Looking forward to some much need R&R.It's a time of the year to go too. Summertime in Orlando is a humid drag. They just opened a ton of new Star Wars stuff of you're into that.
It is going to stupid humid and likely thunderstorms for a majority of our time which really stinks but who knows. There is always rain during the day in central florida each day so that isn't a shocker.
There is a ton of new star wars stuff and that is super exciting. A little nervous about availability of this as the waits have been crazy long for these attractions as the excitement of the new movie is a bit crazy right now. The time frame we are going is actually one of the best weeks of the year for low crowds the entire year. It is just before the christmas holiday and the crowds are historically very low (of course that is somewhat relative). Even the worst ride wait times are still pretty reasonable (by disney expectations) this time of year. Just have to plan the rides you really want and hit those early along with fast pass and it will all work out ok.
Have fun, Sean. It's a great vacation.
Thanks Ed. I have already packed the exact same outfit I was wearing when we did the standard picture in front of the castle so I can recreate the look this time around with bigger children. Should be pretty funny.
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Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
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