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  • October 29, 2015 at 7:34 am

    #1836366

    I was on my last eye twitch yesterday (so to speak) so I put together this image. (attached)

    I was thinking about unleashing it but then I thought maybe it was too much.

    Could have called it 2 easy steps to forum happiness! I don't know what do you guys think? lol

    SELECT quote FROM brain WHERE original = 1
    0 rows returned

  • October 29, 2015 at 8:30 am

    #1836398

    yb751 (10/29/2015)

    I was on my last eye twitch yesterday (so to speak) so I put together this image. (attached)

    I was thinking about unleashing it but then I thought maybe it was too much.

    Could have called it 2 easy steps to forum happiness! I don't know what do you guys think? lol

    It might be a bit much, but I know what you mean. It makes things so much easier to read.

    I think the (sometimes arduous) task of getting people to post DDL, consumable sample data and expected output is more of a hindrance to being able to help people. The excuse of proprietary table design and PII is old. Table designs are just designs and I don't know what's confusing or ambiguous about the term sample data.

    I admit that I'm quicker to help if someone takes the time to create a good post and actually asks a question.

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  • October 29, 2015 at 8:58 am

    #1836412

    Ed Wagner (10/29/2015)

    yb751 (10/29/2015)

    I was on my last eye twitch yesterday (so to speak) so I put together this image. (attached)

    I was thinking about unleashing it but then I thought maybe it was too much.

    Could have called it 2 easy steps to forum happiness! I don't know what do you guys think? lol

    It might be a bit much, but I know what you mean. It makes things so much easier to read.

    I think the (sometimes arduous) task of getting people to post DDL, consumable sample data and expected output is more of a hindrance to being able to help people. The excuse of proprietary table design and PII is old. Table designs are just designs and I don't know what's confusing or ambiguous about the term sample data.

    I admit that I'm quicker to help if someone takes the time to create a good post and actually asks a question.

    I just generally replace the word "proprietary" with "hideous" or "embarrasing" in my mind when I see that. If your data structures are so overly complicated you have to copyright them then you are simply doing it wrong. And if the developers are working with PII then their whole environment is doing it wrong.

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  • October 29, 2015 at 9:06 am

    #1836418

    Ed Wagner (10/29/2015)

    yb751 (10/29/2015)

    I was on my last eye twitch yesterday (so to speak) so I put together this image. (attached)

    I was thinking about unleashing it but then I thought maybe it was too much.

    Could have called it 2 easy steps to forum happiness! I don't know what do you guys think? lol

    It might be a bit much, but I know what you mean. It makes things so much easier to read.

    I think the (sometimes arduous) task of getting people to post DDL, consumable sample data and expected output is more of a hindrance to being able to help people. The excuse of proprietary table design and PII is old. Table designs are just designs and I don't know what's confusing or ambiguous about the term sample data.

    I admit that I'm quicker to help if someone takes the time to create a good post and actually asks a question.

    Is it just me, or are there two types of folks who post questions on ssc - those wishing to solve a problem and learn from the experience, and those who are [politeness] hoping for a quick fix [politeness off]? You can almost distinguish between them by their willingness to spend 3 minutes knocking up a sample data set.

    “Write the query the simplest way. If through testing it becomes clear that the performance is inadequate, consider alternative query forms.” - Gail Shaw

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  • October 29, 2015 at 9:14 am

    #1836420

    ChrisM@Work (10/29/2015)

    Ed Wagner (10/29/2015)

    yb751 (10/29/2015)

    I was on my last eye twitch yesterday (so to speak) so I put together this image. (attached)

    I was thinking about unleashing it but then I thought maybe it was too much.

    Could have called it 2 easy steps to forum happiness! I don't know what do you guys think? lol

    It might be a bit much, but I know what you mean. It makes things so much easier to read.

    I think the (sometimes arduous) task of getting people to post DDL, consumable sample data and expected output is more of a hindrance to being able to help people. The excuse of proprietary table design and PII is old. Table designs are just designs and I don't know what's confusing or ambiguous about the term sample data.

    I admit that I'm quicker to help if someone takes the time to create a good post and actually asks a question.

    Is it just me, or are there two types of folks who post questions on ssc - those wishing to solve a problem and learn from the experience, and those who are [politeness] hoping for a quick fix [politeness off]? You can almost distinguish between them by their willingness to spend 3 minutes knocking up a sample data set.

    There are also the ones that have no idea what they're talking about but won't ask in their company because they don't want to appear ignorant or unsuited for the job.

    Luis C.
    General Disclaimer:
    Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

    How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help: Option 1 / Option 2

  • October 29, 2015 at 9:18 am

    #1836423

    ChrisM@Work (10/29/2015)

    Ed Wagner (10/29/2015)

    yb751 (10/29/2015)

    I was on my last eye twitch yesterday (so to speak) so I put together this image. (attached)

    I was thinking about unleashing it but then I thought maybe it was too much.

    Could have called it 2 easy steps to forum happiness! I don't know what do you guys think? lol

    It might be a bit much, but I know what you mean. It makes things so much easier to read.

    I think the (sometimes arduous) task of getting people to post DDL, consumable sample data and expected output is more of a hindrance to being able to help people. The excuse of proprietary table design and PII is old. Table designs are just designs and I don't know what's confusing or ambiguous about the term sample data.

    I admit that I'm quicker to help if someone takes the time to create a good post and actually asks a question.

    Is it just me, or are there two types of folks who post questions on ssc - those wishing to solve a problem and learn from the experience, and those who are [politeness] hoping for a quick fix [politeness off]? You can almost distinguish between them by their willingness to spend 3 minutes knocking up a sample data set.

    Clearly there are 10 types of people posting. Those who want help and those who don't. 😛

    _______________________________________________________________

    Need help? Help us help you.

    Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

    Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

  • October 29, 2015 at 9:23 am

    #1836424

    Ed Wagner (10/29/2015)

    yb751 (10/29/2015)

    I was on my last eye twitch yesterday (so to speak) so I put together this image. (attached)

    I was thinking about unleashing it but then I thought maybe it was too much.

    Could have called it 2 easy steps to forum happiness! I don't know what do you guys think? lol

    It might be a bit much, but I know what you mean. It makes things so much easier to read.

    I think the (sometimes arduous) task of getting people to post DDL, consumable sample data and expected output is more of a hindrance to being able to help people. The excuse of proprietary table design and PII is old. Table designs are just designs and I don't know what's confusing or ambiguous about the term sample data.

    I admit that I'm quicker to help if someone takes the time to create a good post and actually asks a question.

    Agreed...the main reason I hesitated was because it's hard enough getting DDL or sample data (which is way more important), that also asking for some formatting/prettification might be approaching wishful thinking territory.

    SELECT quote FROM brain WHERE original = 1
    0 rows returned

  • October 29, 2015 at 9:30 am

    #1836429

    yb751 (10/29/2015)

    Ed Wagner (10/29/2015)

    yb751 (10/29/2015)

    I was on my last eye twitch yesterday (so to speak) so I put together this image. (attached)

    I was thinking about unleashing it but then I thought maybe it was too much.

    Could have called it 2 easy steps to forum happiness! I don't know what do you guys think? lol

    It might be a bit much, but I know what you mean. It makes things so much easier to read.

    I think the (sometimes arduous) task of getting people to post DDL, consumable sample data and expected output is more of a hindrance to being able to help people. The excuse of proprietary table design and PII is old. Table designs are just designs and I don't know what's confusing or ambiguous about the term sample data.

    I admit that I'm quicker to help if someone takes the time to create a good post and actually asks a question.

    Agreed...the main reason I hesitated was because it's hard enough getting DDL or sample data (which is way more important), that also asking for some formatting/prettification might be approaching wishful thinking territory.

    I often just do it for them (thanks to SQL Prompt), repost & hope that embarrasses them into doing it next time.

    The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
    Martin Rees

    You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead.
    Stan Laurel

  • October 29, 2015 at 9:48 am

    #1836435

    Phil Parkin (10/29/2015)

    yb751 (10/29/2015)

    Ed Wagner (10/29/2015)

    yb751 (10/29/2015)

    I was on my last eye twitch yesterday (so to speak) so I put together this image. (attached)

    I was thinking about unleashing it but then I thought maybe it was too much.

    Could have called it 2 easy steps to forum happiness! I don't know what do you guys think? lol

    It might be a bit much, but I know what you mean. It makes things so much easier to read.

    I think the (sometimes arduous) task of getting people to post DDL, consumable sample data and expected output is more of a hindrance to being able to help people. The excuse of proprietary table design and PII is old. Table designs are just designs and I don't know what's confusing or ambiguous about the term sample data.

    I admit that I'm quicker to help if someone takes the time to create a good post and actually asks a question.

    Agreed...the main reason I hesitated was because it's hard enough getting DDL or sample data (which is way more important), that also asking for some formatting/prettification might be approaching wishful thinking territory.

    I often just do it for them (thanks to SQL Prompt), repost & hope that embarrasses them into doing it next time.

    And Phil, your signature says a lot, too. Please do ask a question. Posts such as "here's what I have...now what do I do?" just don't cut it. It's so aggravating to try and pull an actual question out of someone after they've posted am 80-column table DDL and a 2000-line procedure. No description. No problem. No question.

    I think the uncooperative ones bug me the most, though. You ask a question in response and get some irrelevant point or an excuse about why they can't answer it, but they still want an answer. There are those who possess the crystal ball and hit the nail on the head with some consistency - Lynn comes to mind. How he comes up with some solutions with such scant information is beyond me. He takes divination to a high art - and he's good at it.

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  • October 30, 2015 at 6:04 am

    #1836644

    Anyone here with mad C# skills? I need some help with a VS 2012 C# project that I'm updating.

    Nevermind. One of our developers finally responded to my request for assistance.

    Brandie Tarvin, MCITP Database AdministratorLiveJournal Blog: http://brandietarvin.livejournal.com/[/url]On LinkedIn!, Google+, and Twitter.Freelance Writer: ShadowrunLatchkeys: Nevermore, Latchkeys: The Bootleg War, and Latchkeys: Roscoes in the Night are now available on Nook and Kindle.

  • October 30, 2015 at 6:32 am

    #1836649

    Brandie Tarvin (10/30/2015)

    Anyone here with mad C# skills? I need some help with a VS 2012 C# project that I'm updating.

    Nevermind. One of our developers finally responded to my request for assistance.

    That's great, because my skills make me call it "C tic-tac-toe".:hehe:

    Luis C.
    General Disclaimer:
    Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

    How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help: Option 1 / Option 2

  • October 30, 2015 at 6:48 am

    #1836655

    Brandie Tarvin (10/30/2015)

    Anyone here with mad C# skills? I need some help with a VS 2012 C# project that I'm updating.

    Nevermind. One of our developers finally responded to my request for assistance.

    Developers responded.

    What, did hell freeze over?

    Michael L John
    If you assassinate a DBA, would you pull a trigger?
    To properly post on a forum:
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  • October 30, 2015 at 6:55 am

    #1836657

    Michael L John (10/30/2015)

    Brandie Tarvin (10/30/2015)

    Anyone here with mad C# skills? I need some help with a VS 2012 C# project that I'm updating.

    Nevermind. One of our developers finally responded to my request for assistance.

    Developers responded.

    What, did hell freeze over?

    Well, it helps that this is one of the managers and he knows if he wants to get me to do stuff for him, he has to do the occasional favor for me. @=)

    Brandie Tarvin, MCITP Database AdministratorLiveJournal Blog: http://brandietarvin.livejournal.com/[/url]On LinkedIn!, Google+, and Twitter.Freelance Writer: ShadowrunLatchkeys: Nevermore, Latchkeys: The Bootleg War, and Latchkeys: Roscoes in the Night are now available on Nook and Kindle.

  • October 30, 2015 at 7:18 am

    #1836669

    Michael L John (10/30/2015)

    Brandie Tarvin (10/30/2015)

    Anyone here with mad C# skills? I need some help with a VS 2012 C# project that I'm updating.

    Nevermind. One of our developers finally responded to my request for assistance.

    Developers responded.

    What, did hell freeze over?

    No, not yet, give it a couple weeks yet...

    Hell weather / Accuweather

  • October 30, 2015 at 7:24 am

    #1836671

    Brandie Tarvin (10/30/2015)

    Anyone here with mad C# skills? I need some help with a VS 2012 C# project that I'm updating.

    Nevermind. One of our developers finally responded to my request for assistance.

    A little late to the party but I would have helped you out.

    _______________________________________________________________

    Need help? Help us help you.

    Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

    Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

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