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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736212 More actions · Answer 1

I agree with DavidB, repliers have to own a touch of this.

It's definitely a balance and I still try to hint at people if they haven't shown work. If I think it's test/homework/interview question, I ask them to do some research, maybe point them at an article or something, but get them to do something.

It doesn't work with everyone, but it will encourage some to do a little work. There are plenty of people that will try if you point them in the right direction.

😎

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004340 More actions · Answer 2

That's part of the reasoning behind the "forum ettiquette" article that so many of us have in our signature. Lot's of times, just taking that minute or two of extra time causes people to have a revelation and solve their own problem. It's also why my first post will, many times, be a link to an article... heh... I've even been blasted for that... "You never post answers, just articles! What good are you?"

And when I do post a solution, I normally detail the steps in the form of embedded comments so the OP can actually have the opportunity to learn something new. After that, it's up to them.

Either way, it's a delicate balance between slaving code for someone and trying to teach them something... or just ignoring them or hitting them with some "tough love" pork chops.

--Jeff Moden

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First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

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David Benoit SSC-Dedicated Points: 34562 More actions · Answer 3

Jeff Moden (12/24/2008)
...or just ignoring them or hitting them with some "tough love" pork chops.

I want to know where I can find those!

David

@SQLTentmaker

“He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose” - Jim Elliot

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736212 More actions · Answer 4

I'm sure Jeff will Airmail you a few, $23 apiece, dry ice included :hehe:

RBarryYoung SSC Guru Points: 143329 More actions · Answer 5

"Michigan Pork Chops"

Sort of like "Omaha Steaks", only faster! 😀

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004340 More actions · Answer 6

BWAAA-HAAA! Sounds like a heck of a tagline for a new company, Barry 😛

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

RBarryYoung SSC Guru Points: 143329 More actions · Answer 7

Well, gotta have something to fall back on if that Auto Industry thing doesn't work out, huh?

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004340 More actions · Answer 8

Heh... there's an Auto Industry in Michigan??? 😉

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736212 More actions · Answer 9

Sure. Well, industry might be a strong term, but there sure are lots of used cart lots, parts dealers, insurance companies, etc. 😛

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004340 More actions · Answer 10

Man, I sure hope they survive... I don't believe folks understand what an impact they've had on the United States and North America in general in the last 100 years. I think it would be devastating if even 1 of the 3 remaining (remember "American Motors"?) went under. Of course, Chrysler isn't really owned by anyone in the U.S. anymore... so it might not count. 😉

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736212 More actions · Answer 11

They certainly need to evolve. They've been mismanaged for years, counting on cheap oil, big, expensive cars that they want people to buy every few years, a bad model. Not sure what I want to see happen, but I don't want any of them to just disappear.

I would like to see them be able to combine some research into alternative technologies. The Japanese do it, we should be able to.

And they can't remove benefits from retirees. Those were agreed to long ago.

David Benoit SSC-Dedicated Points: 34562 More actions · Answer 12

Steve Jones - Editor (12/26/2008)
And they can't remove benefits from retirees. Those were agreed to long ago.

Can't or shouldn't? 🙁

David

@SQLTentmaker

“He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose” - Jim Elliot

Jack Corbett SSC Guru Points: 184394 More actions · Answer 13

DavidB (12/26/2008)
Steve Jones - Editor (12/26/2008)
And they can't remove benefits from retirees. Those were agreed to long ago.
Can't or shouldn't? 🙁

I would say can't. This is something the retirees earned under an agreement with the company. To change teh agreement with current employees would be one thing, but to pull the rug out from under retirees is wrong.

Jack Corbett
Consultant - Straight Path Solutions
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David Benoit SSC-Dedicated Points: 34562 More actions · Answer 14

Jack Corbett (12/26/2008)
DavidB (12/26/2008)
Steve Jones - Editor (12/26/2008)
And they can't remove benefits from retirees. Those were agreed to long ago.
Can't or shouldn't? 🙁
I would say can't. This is something the retirees earned under an agreement with the company. To change teh agreement with current employees would be one thing, but to pull the rug out from under retirees is wrong.

Yeah, sadly there are companies which have started changing the agreements that they once promised to employees. Mainly in the realm of health care promises but still that is a major issue for some of these folks. So, I was sincerely wondering if it was really a "CAN'T" as in they would be breaking the law or is it really an ethical "SHOULDN'T".

Obviously way off topic from the original line of this thread.

David

@SQLTentmaker

“He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose” - Jim Elliot

Jack Corbett SSC Guru Points: 184394 More actions · Answer 15

Apparently nothing is off topic for this thread.

In regard to retirement, a lot of companies are just taking the lead from the U.S. government which borrows from Social Security, which is OUR money, which means it will be underfunded and many companies have done the same with thier pension plans.

Jack Corbett
Consultant - Straight Path Solutions
Check out these links on how to get faster and more accurate answers:
Forum Etiquette: How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help
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