Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • GilaMonster (6/4/2015)


    *sigh*

    I swear some people don't actually want help.

    This wouldn't happen to be the thread where the OP edited all their posts to "nil" is it?

  • Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Alvin Ramard (5/29/2015)


    Alan.B (5/29/2015)


    Luis Cazares (5/29/2015)


    I'm not sure if you've seen this, but it made me laugh and wanted to share it with you.

    http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/2011/01/nosql.html

    Haha. Would be even funnier if it weren't so true.

    I interviewed someone not a while back and they were doing pretty well until...

    They had Unix listed on their resume (CV) as a skill. While making small talk (no need to know Unix for the position they were interviewing for) I asked them what flavor of Unix they had worked with. I have a little Unix and Linux experience and was just curious. They did not have a clue what Unix was. They did not know it was an operating system. Could not name a flavor or say what it did. They could only say that, "they had used the software".

    Reminds me of something I see too much here.

    Question: Which version of SSIS are you using?

    Answer: VS 2008

    Or better yet, from a real conversation at work a few years ago.

    Question: In what format do you want me to sent the data?

    Answer: Notepad.

    Scary sometimes! :w00t:

    A refreshing change from Excel

    I'm a DBA.
    I'm not paid to solve problems. I'm paid to prevent them.

  • Jeff Moden (6/4/2015)


    Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    I haven't heard of anybody doing that, well, sort of. I believe Barnes Noble went live with a pre-production version of SQL 2005. They just couldn't wait for the production version to come out.



    Alvin Ramard
    Memphis PASS Chapter[/url]

    All my SSC forum answers come with a money back guarantee. If you didn't like the answer then I'll gladly refund what you paid for it.

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  • Alvin Ramard (6/4/2015)


    Jeff Moden (6/4/2015)


    Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    I haven't heard of anybody doing that, well, sort of. I believe Barnes Noble went live with a pre-production version of SQL 2005. They just couldn't wait for the production version to come out.

    It is my understanding that there are a few companies out there that are bleeding edge enough to be using pre public versions of SQL Server for production systems. They have a MS engineer usually on site to help trouble shoot issues and I am sure these companies have fairly deep pockets to pay for the support.

  • Lynn Pettis (6/4/2015)


    Alvin Ramard (6/4/2015)


    Jeff Moden (6/4/2015)


    Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    I haven't heard of anybody doing that, well, sort of. I believe Barnes Noble went live with a pre-production version of SQL 2005. They just couldn't wait for the production version to come out.

    It is my understanding that there are a few companies out there that are bleeding edge enough to be using pre public versions of SQL Server for production systems. They have a MS engineer usually on site to help trouble shoot issues and I am sure these companies have fairly deep pockets to pay for the support.

    Years and years ago I was interviewed by an insurance company who did this. But yes top tier MS support etc. Not for the faint hearted.

    Rodders...

  • rodjkidd (6/4/2015)


    Lynn Pettis (6/4/2015)


    Alvin Ramard (6/4/2015)


    Jeff Moden (6/4/2015)


    Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    I haven't heard of anybody doing that, well, sort of. I believe Barnes Noble went live with a pre-production version of SQL 2005. They just couldn't wait for the production version to come out.

    It is my understanding that there are a few companies out there that are bleeding edge enough to be using pre public versions of SQL Server for production systems. They have a MS engineer usually on site to help trouble shoot issues and I am sure these companies have fairly deep pockets to pay for the support.

    Years and years ago I was interviewed by an insurance company who did this. But yes top tier MS support etc. Not for the faint hearted.

    Rodders...

    I would never even consider it. Then again, I'm slightly paranoid and value stability and reliability over having the newest, shiniest toys to play with. Hmmm...I hope that doesn't mean I'm getting old and stolid. 😛

  • Ed Wagner (6/4/2015)


    rodjkidd (6/4/2015)


    Lynn Pettis (6/4/2015)


    Alvin Ramard (6/4/2015)


    Jeff Moden (6/4/2015)


    Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    I haven't heard of anybody doing that, well, sort of. I believe Barnes Noble went live with a pre-production version of SQL 2005. They just couldn't wait for the production version to come out.

    It is my understanding that there are a few companies out there that are bleeding edge enough to be using pre public versions of SQL Server for production systems. They have a MS engineer usually on site to help trouble shoot issues and I am sure these companies have fairly deep pockets to pay for the support.

    Years and years ago I was interviewed by an insurance company who did this. But yes top tier MS support etc. Not for the faint hearted.

    Rodders...

    I would never even consider it. Then again, I'm slightly paranoid and value stability and reliability over having the newest, shiniest toys to play with. Hmmm...I hope that doesn't mean I'm getting old and stolid. 😛

    Companies that do this are looking for that edge in business. They are willing to take additional risks and usually pay a premium for doing so as well. Not everyone can work in that type of environment, it doesn't mean you are getting old and stolid.

  • Jeff Moden (6/4/2015)


    Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    In Russia there is a rulette game that's about the same:unsure:

    😎

  • Eirikur Eiriksson (6/4/2015)


    Jeff Moden (6/4/2015)


    Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    In Russia there is a rulette game that's about the same:unsure:

    😎

    The Russian game has a 5 in 6 chance of survival. Not sure how that compares with using CTP.



    Alvin Ramard
    Memphis PASS Chapter[/url]

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  • Ed Wagner (6/4/2015)


    rodjkidd (6/4/2015)


    Lynn Pettis (6/4/2015)


    Alvin Ramard (6/4/2015)


    Jeff Moden (6/4/2015)


    Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    I haven't heard of anybody doing that, well, sort of. I believe Barnes Noble went live with a pre-production version of SQL 2005. They just couldn't wait for the production version to come out.

    It is my understanding that there are a few companies out there that are bleeding edge enough to be using pre public versions of SQL Server for production systems. They have a MS engineer usually on site to help trouble shoot issues and I am sure these companies have fairly deep pockets to pay for the support.

    Years and years ago I was interviewed by an insurance company who did this. But yes top tier MS support etc. Not for the faint hearted.

    Rodders...

    I would never even consider it. Then again, I'm slightly paranoid and value stability and reliability over having the newest, shiniest toys to play with. Hmmm...I hope that doesn't mean I'm getting old and stolid. 😛

    Maybe you'd want to play with the shiniest toys, but wouldn't let them go into production.

    Luis C.
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    Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

    How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help: Option 1 / Option 2
  • Lynn Pettis (6/4/2015)


    Alvin Ramard (6/4/2015)


    Jeff Moden (6/4/2015)


    Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    I haven't heard of anybody doing that, well, sort of. I believe Barnes Noble went live with a pre-production version of SQL 2005. They just couldn't wait for the production version to come out.

    It is my understanding that there are a few companies out there that are bleeding edge enough to be using pre public versions of SQL Server for production systems. They have a MS engineer usually on site to help trouble shoot issues and I am sure these companies have fairly deep pockets to pay for the support.

    Yup, it's called the TAP program. Companies run pre-release versions, often versions that aren't public and have direct access to lots of support at MS to do so.

    However, unless a company is in the TAP program, it's a license violation to use pre-release versions in prod.

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • And, back on topic, can anyone help our poor, out-of-his-depth friend with locating a time machine?

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1691611-391-1.aspx

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • GilaMonster (6/4/2015)


    And, back on topic, can anyone help our poor, out-of-his-depth friend with locating a time machine?

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1691611-391-1.aspx

    ... back on topic... ???? How dare you? 😀

    Can you get his address and we'll get Steve to send him a crystal ball?



    Alvin Ramard
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  • Jeff Moden (6/4/2015)


    Shifting gears a bit...

    Have any of you ever used a CTP of SQL Server to power your real production databases? Personally, I think such a thing would be insane.

    Insane for a few reasons.

    One being that it is prone to be very buggy.

    Another being that it will expire.

    Never actually seen such a crazy thing as that - yet.

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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