May 26, 2015 at 5:09 am
Luis Cazares (5/24/2015)
Would someone be interested on helping me to proofread an article that I'm planning to submit to SQLServerCentral? It's about while loops not being evil. 😀
Wow. Talk about crossing lines... (j/k)
I do actually like WHILE loops on occasion.
May 26, 2015 at 5:53 am
Nothing wrong with while loops. I'm about to start a batch of WHILE @Done != 0 INSERT INTO ... SELECT TOP (@n) FROM ... on a client's server
Tool...Job.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
May 26, 2015 at 6:52 am
spaghettidba (5/26/2015)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (5/25/2015)
Jeff Moden (5/25/2015)
TomThomson (5/23/2015)
LinksUp (5/23/2015)
When I see that Joe Celko has posted a message I know that some level of entertainment will be attained:rolleyes:. I guess he crossed some boundary. It seems every single one of his posts have been deleted! I am guessing that if his posts are deleted, then he has probably been banned from posting to any of the forums here. (Don't know if this is a life time ban or if it has a time limit!) To bad. With his knowledge, he could have helped a lot of people here.I guess this has also eliminated all the comments on his articles (although it hasn't eliminated the articles themselves).
If that's true, then I'm seriously disappointed. He's been horribly nasty to a great many people and his old posts should be allowed to continue as a testament as to his nasty attitude. Banning, on the other hand, I completely understand and whole heartedly support.
He has been banned, and unfortunately, posts deleted. The "Ban" button locks the account, but also deletes posts. I forgot that when I clicked it and it was too late then.
I may see if I can get something done on a restore to recover some of these.
Did he do something particular to deserve the ban? I mean, something different from the usual things?
He's been downright mean to a lot of people. It would be nice if his old posts were kept, but if they can't be, then so be it. I noticed something weird must have happened when I came back from a mini-vacation and saw he posted on one of my threads, but his post wasn't there. Personally, while it would have been nice to keep the old posts, I don't think it's worth a tremendous effort to recover them.
May 26, 2015 at 6:54 am
Brandie Tarvin (5/26/2015)
Luis Cazares (5/24/2015)
Would someone be interested on helping me to proofread an article that I'm planning to submit to SQLServerCentral? It's about while loops not being evil. 😀Wow. Talk about crossing lines... (j/k)
I do actually like WHILE loops on occasion.
I use WHILE loops myself when they're appropriate. My procedure to process backups loops through them and catches errors along the way. Like anything else, they have their place. The place is just smaller than many people seem to think it is.
May 26, 2015 at 7:01 am
SQLRNNR (5/22/2015)
Jack Corbett (5/22/2015)
Question, how many of you work in an open work space? If you do, what are your thoughts?My employer just finished a renovation and I'm moving into an open work space environment, and I'm not real existed about it.
Do not like them. I have clients that use them and it just doesn't work.
You know the saying about fences and neighbors? Well same thing applies in the work space.
I think that hits the nail on the head. I used to work in a cubicle environment and is was okay. They then decided that we should have a more open environment, so they removed all the bookcases that made the cubicles and left only the desks. It sucked and I hated it. There were so many distractions that it was much harder to concentrate. Privacy was almost non-existent, so working with sensitive data became problematic. I can't think of anything good to say about it.
I now work for a company where I'm in my own office and I like it. There's privacy, less distractions and far less socializing. It all contributes to getting actual work done.
The temperature is another matter. The HVAC systems of some buildings just don't work well. At least offices permit some use of fans and portable heaters.
May 26, 2015 at 7:06 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (5/25/2015)
Jeff Moden (5/25/2015)
TomThomson (5/23/2015)
LinksUp (5/23/2015)
When I see that Joe Celko has posted a message I know that some level of entertainment will be attained:rolleyes:. I guess he crossed some boundary. It seems every single one of his posts have been deleted! I am guessing that if his posts are deleted, then he has probably been banned from posting to any of the forums here. (Don't know if this is a life time ban or if it has a time limit!) To bad. With his knowledge, he could have helped a lot of people here.I guess this has also eliminated all the comments on his articles (although it hasn't eliminated the articles themselves).
If that's true, then I'm seriously disappointed. He's been horribly nasty to a great many people and his old posts should be allowed to continue as a testament as to his nasty attitude. Banning, on the other hand, I completely understand and whole heartedly support.
He has been banned, and unfortunately, posts deleted. The "Ban" button locks the account, but also deletes posts. I forgot that when I clicked it and it was too late then.
I may see if I can get something done on a restore to recover some of these.
I wouldn't bust a hump on it. Although there were a few that were helpful, most were just inappropriate rants.
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
May 26, 2015 at 7:55 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (5/25/2015)
He has been banned
Was this you then, restoring deleted posts? http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1688705.aspx
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
May 26, 2015 at 8:06 am
Luis Cazares (5/24/2015)
Would someone be interested on helping me to proofread an article that I'm planning to submit to SQLServerCentral? It's about while loops not being evil. 😀
You can send it my way if you would like.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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May 26, 2015 at 8:35 am
GilaMonster (5/26/2015)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (5/25/2015)
He has been bannedWas this you then, restoring deleted posts? http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1688705.aspx
I suppose he's attempting a comeback and being banned again.
-- Gianluca Sartori
May 26, 2015 at 8:44 am
I know while loops aren't bad even if they're used for data processing and not administrative tasks. That's why I wrote the article, to show how loops can be set-based programming and to prevent people from saying: "Loops? not in a thousand lifetimes".
That said, I want to thank you for offering to review the article. Hopefully, it won't be that bad.
May 26, 2015 at 8:51 am
Luis Cazares (5/26/2015)
I know while loops aren't bad even if they're used for data processing and not administrative tasks. That's why I wrote the article, to show how loops can be set-based programming and to prevent people from saying: "Loops? not in a thousand lifetimes".That said, I want to thank you for offering to review the article. Hopefully, it won't be that bad.
I would be happy to be on your proof readers list too if you want.
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May 26, 2015 at 9:42 am
GilaMonster (5/26/2015)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (5/25/2015)
He has been bannedWas this you then, restoring deleted posts? http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1688705.aspx
I did unhide one of the posts marked as SPAM that wasn't (OP posting code/data/link), but that's it. I have a restore of last weeks's db to go through. Need to decide how to restore posts for Mr. Celko.
May 26, 2015 at 9:44 am
Not to get into a big discussion, but more than a few people on staff felt that some posts had gotten a bit too out of hand and overreacting to the questions being asked.
I do try to allow differing opinions, and while I know most of you have felt that the posts are too unprofessional, I think many of them have been harsh, but not personal attacks, so I've been loathe to censor things I don't like. I try to avoid that when possible.
May 27, 2015 at 4:53 am
Just curious how many people on The Thread are World Cup fans. Cause... STUFF and MORE STUFF.
And I was wondering how y'all felt about it.
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