May 22, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Plus, position and angles plays a role. People in the stands may see something that an AR or Referee can't simply because of their position on the field plus the position of the players.
I was shadowing a referee on a U12 game several weeks ago. from a position just 3 to 5 feet closer to the goalline than the Referee, I saw a handling call that he couldn't. Since he was the official on the field, the call wasn't made. I was there to provide guidance and mentoring as he hadn't done U12 games at the time.
May 22, 2009 at 3:01 pm
I have to deal with parents who think they know better than me all the time. Unfortunately, none of them are willing to take the Basic Referee class and step foot on the pitch as a referee.
I feel with you. Seems to be the same in any sport in any country. As a ref one does one's best, but there will always be this one parent that needs to be heard, but who doesn't have the guts to try doing the job him/herself.
May 22, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Gianluca Sartori (5/22/2009)
Honestly, I would find paragraphs 2 and 3 quite offending if they were directed at me.
I'm sorry, I don't know English well enough to understand if you are referring to my post or some other. Can you please be more explicit?
If I was offending, please tell me: how should I have behaved? Is the problem with diversion from the OP? Honestly I'm just trying to do my best, so if I did something wrong tell me and I'll stop.
Thank you very much
Gianluca, I was talking about the other one's reply to your post. I meant the one who calls himself the Guru, signs with MVP, but doesn't disclose his name, which I find a little bit odd.
And by the way, there's nothing wrong with your English.;-)
That's Kevin Boles. He's a might be a bit dismissive at times, but he doesn't usually go off on someone like that. I'd suggest trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he was having a bad day.
Gianluca, if you feel that he went too far in his response (I think that that's fair in this case), then I think that you can just say that you do not think that his response was fair or justified.
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May 22, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
Plus, position and angles plays a role. People in the stands may see something that an AR or Referee can't simply because of their position on the field plus the position of the players.I was shadowing a referee on a U12 game several weeks ago. from a position just 3 to 5 feet closer to the goalline than the Referee, I saw a handling call that he couldn't. Since he was the official on the field, the call wasn't made. I was there to provide guidance and mentoring as he hadn't done U12 games at the time.
Yup, and even if you are quick on your feet and close to ball level near the one goal, then the ball gets cleared, you got no linesmen, now call a close off-side when you are suddenly 50 meters behind the ball... Yes, we play the lower junior leagues with just a ref and no linesmen.
May 22, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
You are a very brave person, Gail.
Didn't really have many choices at the time.
SQL 2000 on Itanium. Critical production system (stock market trading). SQL completely unresponsive, would not accept connections, would not gracefully shut down. Solution - kill the process, fail the cluster over and reboot the node that had been active.
It didn't happen often (we manually rebooted every second weekend), but from time to time would happen on the 2nd Thurs or Fri after a reboot.
SQL 2000 on Itanium = really bad idea.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
May 22, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Grant Fritchey (5/22/2009)
No one is going to believe this, but a friend of mine & I were very minor characters in one of the Destroyer novels. We were introduced and killed within about three pages, but we were there.
SWeeeet! Which one was it? My college roommates would have killed for that!
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May 22, 2009 at 3:10 pm
RBarryYoung (5/22/2009)
That's Kevin Boles. He's a might be a bit dismissive at times, but he doesn't usually go off on someone like that. I'd suggest trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he was having a bad day.Gianluca, if you feel that he went too far in his response (I think that that's fair in this case), then I think that you can just say that you do not think that his response was fair or justified.
May be worth noting that he has apologised.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
May 22, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
Plus, position and angles plays a role. People in the stands may see something that an AR or Referee can't simply because of their position on the field plus the position of the players.I was shadowing a referee on a U12 game several weeks ago. from a position just 3 to 5 feet closer to the goalline than the Referee, I saw a handling call that he couldn't. Since he was the official on the field, the call wasn't made. I was there to provide guidance and mentoring as he hadn't done U12 games at the time.
Yup, and even if you are quick on your feet and close to ball level near the one goal, then the ball gets cleared, you got no linesmen, now call a close off-side when you are suddenly 50 meters behind the ball... Yes, we play the lower junior leagues with just a ref and no linesmen.
I've been there. Call it an Iron Man. Before the game starts, I get the captains and coaches together and explain, that if I can't tell from my position on the field if an offside foul has occurred, play goes on. With that, I haven't had any problems from either players or coaches. The only offside fouls I have a problem calling from an bad angle are the close position ones. You learn real quick to pick up on various cues to help determine if a player is in an offside position and possibly call the foul if needed (remember, it isn't a foul in and of itself to be in an offside position).
May 22, 2009 at 3:26 pm
GilaMonster (5/22/2009)
RBarryYoung (5/22/2009)
That's Kevin Boles. He's a might be a bit dismissive at times, but he doesn't usually go off on someone like that. I'd suggest trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he was having a bad day.Gianluca, if you feel that he went too far in his response (I think that that's fair in this case), then I think that you can just say that you do not think that his response was fair or justified.
May be worth noting that he has apologised.
So noted. (sorry, catching up after work and I thought I had checked..)
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Proactive Performance Solutions, Inc. [/font][font="Verdana"] "Performance is our middle name."[/font]
May 22, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
Plus, position and angles plays a role. People in the stands may see something that an AR or Referee can't simply because of their position on the field plus the position of the players.I was shadowing a referee on a U12 game several weeks ago. from a position just 3 to 5 feet closer to the goalline than the Referee, I saw a handling call that he couldn't. Since he was the official on the field, the call wasn't made. I was there to provide guidance and mentoring as he hadn't done U12 games at the time.
Yup, and even if you are quick on your feet and close to ball level near the one goal, then the ball gets cleared, you got no linesmen, now call a close off-side when you are suddenly 50 meters behind the ball... Yes, we play the lower junior leagues with just a ref and no linesmen.
When my sons played youth soccer in the city recreation leagues, right up through U14 there'd be one referee on the pitch and a volunteer parent from each side running the sidelines to flag offsides and when the ball went over the touch line. It generally worked out well and I don't recall ever seeing one of the volunteers playing favorites. In fact, it was a good way to keep the more vocal ones quiet -- put a flag in their hands and they'd adopt their new role as impartial quasi-official.
May 22, 2009 at 3:39 pm
john.arnott (5/22/2009)
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
Plus, position and angles plays a role. People in the stands may see something that an AR or Referee can't simply because of their position on the field plus the position of the players.I was shadowing a referee on a U12 game several weeks ago. from a position just 3 to 5 feet closer to the goalline than the Referee, I saw a handling call that he couldn't. Since he was the official on the field, the call wasn't made. I was there to provide guidance and mentoring as he hadn't done U12 games at the time.
Yup, and even if you are quick on your feet and close to ball level near the one goal, then the ball gets cleared, you got no linesmen, now call a close off-side when you are suddenly 50 meters behind the ball... Yes, we play the lower junior leagues with just a ref and no linesmen.
When my sons played youth soccer in the city recreation leagues, right up through U14 there'd be one referee on the pitch and a volunteer parent from each side running the sidelines to flag offsides and when the ball went over the touch line. It generally worked out well and I don't recall ever seeing one of the volunteers playing favorites. In fact, it was a good way to keep the more vocal ones quiet -- put a flag in their hands and they'd adopt their new role as impartial quasi-official.
When I can get club linesmen, all they are allowed to "call" is ball out of ball. They can't call any fouls, including the offsides foul. Plus, most parents I know have no real idea on when to call offside. They scream for offside calls when a player is in an offside position, but not even involved in play, or during the taking of a throw-in or corner kick. They must be impartial (neutral) AR's to call anything else. Of course, I've seen leagues where the club linesmen have been greater responsibility. I think it has to be a decision up to the Referee if he is going to allow that to occur. My problem with Club Linesman, they refuse to move on the line even though I have given them explicit instructions on what I expect from them during the game. You get to the point where you really don't bother with them anymore.
May 22, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
Plus, position and angles plays a role. People in the stands may see something that an AR or Referee can't simply because of their position on the field plus the position of the players.I was shadowing a referee on a U12 game several weeks ago. from a position just 3 to 5 feet closer to the goalline than the Referee, I saw a handling call that he couldn't. Since he was the official on the field, the call wasn't made. I was there to provide guidance and mentoring as he hadn't done U12 games at the time.
Yup, and even if you are quick on your feet and close to ball level near the one goal, then the ball gets cleared, you got no linesmen, now call a close off-side when you are suddenly 50 meters behind the ball... Yes, we play the lower junior leagues with just a ref and no linesmen.
I've been there. Call it an Iron Man. Before the game starts, I get the captains and coaches together and explain, that if I can't tell from my position on the field if an offside foul has occurred, play goes on. With that, I haven't had any problems from either players or coaches. The only offside fouls I have a problem calling from an bad angle are the close position ones. You learn real quick to pick up on various cues to help determine if a player is in an offside position and possibly call the foul if needed (remember, it isn't a foul in and of itself to be in an offside position).
Been there too. Almost had a fight start behind me once because of overly physical play. Only red card I ever showed was in that game for an elbow.
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May 23, 2009 at 8:57 am
My college rugby coach made us play soccer.
Didn't bother with red card or running laps. Wouldn't have been any players left.
May 23, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Steve Jones - Editor (5/23/2009)
My college rugby coach made us play soccer.Didn't bother with red card or running laps. Wouldn't have been any players left.
Good to hear you play Rugby down upper! 😀
May 23, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Had a darn hell of a day. Topic: upgrade one server from SQL 2005 to SQL 2008, supposed to start at 10:00 AM. Get a call from our monitoring company at 6:40 AM, telling me there's an email message that they are supposed to have received from our overnight runs that didn't arrive. OK, go in a little earlier. Get to the office at 9:30AM, try to connect via VNC (yeah, yeah) to the app server that sends them, dead quiet. Needed to make changes there to logins used from some Perl scripts. Try Remote Desktop, it just laughs at me. Call Infrastructure guy on call, yeah, he'll sort it out from home. Ten minutes later get an SMS saying he's got problems with his laptop, will call me back. Half hour later I get a call saying that there seems to be a hardware issue on the server that's running the VM's (just bought it 2 months ago, made in US, 4 * quad-core, 64Gigs of RAM, Win2K8 Enterprise/64bit, so a nice box plus spent a hell of a lot of money on failover solution for VMWare), but he'll sort it out. Yet another half hour later, he calls saying he's busy applying some patch, but it is running very slow, will call back. Upon the question what other VM's are running on the box he replies, "Well, the Intranet, the MOSS Server, a data warehouse server, plus two dev SQL servers". Of course all of those are down as well. Getting into a bit of a panic mode. Luckily it is Saturday morning and we picked it up early. He eventually gets the host and all VM's back up running. Sigh of relief.
OK, on to the real work. Had already set up VM with SQL2K8 installed. DBA copies backups from Prod to new server, take both servers off-line, off the domain, rename them and change their IP addresses (got some Sybase stuff that refers to it by IP). Bring them back into domain and start them up, restore backups, all OK. But, there were some replicated tables (actually just two of them, rather static) that went to an old SQL2K box that had already been set up on the replacement server. Impossible to stop that replication on the old box, coz it was now complaining about the server name. Running sp_drop/addservers didn't work either, so what now? OK, both servers reverted back to their old names and IP's. Now drop the publications on the old server. Fine, works. Reverse process again to get the new one working. MAGIC 😛 It works! Do some testing, all seems OK. Eventually leave for home at 4PM after a job that was supposed to take an hour or so. Thanks guys, job well done.
8:15PM get a call from the monitoring guys, email not received. OK, dial in from home via HSDPA. Try to VNC into application server. Nothing... Darn, did that piece of s**t hardware die again? Won't take no chances, drive in before considering calling the Infrastructure guy again. Get there, and man, all is fine! Scratch my head. And then it dawns on me that when I dialled in I actually forgot to get connected to the VPN :w00t:
Moral of the story? For one, stop your replication BEFORE you rename a server and don't even bother setting it up on the replacement machine beforehand. Secondly, after a long day, get all your thoughts together before jumoing to conclusions.
I'm going back home now to get some sleep.
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