May 22, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Bob Hovious (5/22/2009)
And then there's Australian Rules Football....
Now, that's fun. If only they could wear shirts with sleeves on 'em.
May 22, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
This is what i was looking for:The “modern” game dates from 1863 when the first “Laws of the Game” were
produced as the result of a meeting, in Fleet Street, London, between a number
of “young gentlemen’s schools” that wished to play against each other and
therefore needed a single set of Laws. Note: At that meeting one school
declined to participate and decided to produce laws for a game of their own. The
declining school was Rugby. The game of Rugby Football is also played
worldwide and provided the basis of the game of “Football” known by Americans.
The reason that one club objected was because kicking on the shins was to be outlawed. Or so I read. Not that shin-kicking is usually allowed in modern day Rugby though. But I must say, even though I'm a Soccer fan, and only learned to watch Rugby once I moved down here, I agree that Pro-Rugby players are much better behaved on the field than Soccer players at the same level. Maybe it has to do with the fact that nowadays the refs are equipped with earphone and mike, plus their rulings being audible to the spectators (as opposed to soccer, where you can't hear them), plus that video can be used (like in Cricket) if the upmire isn't sure of what decision to take? The players have to really watch themselves these days.
May 22, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
This is what i was looking for:The “modern” game dates from 1863 when the first “Laws of the Game” were
produced as the result of a meeting, in Fleet Street, London, between a number
of “young gentlemen’s schools” that wished to play against each other and
therefore needed a single set of Laws. Note: At that meeting one school
declined to participate and decided to produce laws for a game of their own. The
declining school was Rugby. The game of Rugby Football is also played
worldwide and provided the basis of the game of “Football” known by Americans.
The reason that one club objected was because kicking on the shins was to be outlawed. Or so I read. Not that shin-kicking is usually allowed in modern day Rugby though. But I must say, even though I'm a Soccer fan, and only learned to watch Rugby once I moved down here, I agree that Pro-Rugby players are much better behaved on the field than Soccer players at the same level. Maybe it has to do with the fact that nowadays the refs are equipped with earphone and mike, plus their rulings being audible to the spectators (as opposed to soccer, where you can't hear them), plus that video can be used (like in Cricket) if the upmire isn't sure of what decision to take? The players have to really watch themselves these days.
I actually think that is one of the reasons I LIKE soccer, there are no instant replays, the referee and his assistants have to make the calls in real time. Plus, the Laws of the Game even tell us NOT to call triffling or questionable fouls. In a well played and officiated game we should not even be remembered.
May 22, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Florian Reischl (5/22/2009)
Something new for this threads topic::w00t:
Now, that' a very interesting approach. Could have never thought of that myself. Kill SQL, then copy MDF and LDF?
May 22, 2009 at 2:18 pm
May 22, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I heard several times people who stopped SQL Server service to get a copy. But I never heard somebody who killed the service from task manager to do this...
May 22, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
This is what i was looking for:The “modern” game dates from 1863 when the first “Laws of the Game” were
produced as the result of a meeting, in Fleet Street, London, between a number
of “young gentlemen’s schools” that wished to play against each other and
therefore needed a single set of Laws. Note: At that meeting one school
declined to participate and decided to produce laws for a game of their own. The
declining school was Rugby. The game of Rugby Football is also played
worldwide and provided the basis of the game of “Football” known by Americans.
The reason that one club objected was because kicking on the shins was to be outlawed. Or so I read. Not that shin-kicking is usually allowed in modern day Rugby though. But I must say, even though I'm a Soccer fan, and only learned to watch Rugby once I moved down here, I agree that Pro-Rugby players are much better behaved on the field than Soccer players at the same level. Maybe it has to do with the fact that nowadays the refs are equipped with earphone and mike, plus their rulings being audible to the spectators (as opposed to soccer, where you can't hear them), plus that video can be used (like in Cricket) if the upmire isn't sure of what decision to take? The players have to really watch themselves these days.
I actually think that is one of the reasons I LIKE soccer, there are no instant replays, the referee and his assistants have to make the calls in real time. Plus, the Laws of the Game even tell us NOT to call triffling or questionable fouls. In a well played and officiated game we should not even be remembered.
I understand where you are coming from Lynn. BUT. What about the things that happen behind your back, that even the linesmen didn't see? What if you call someone on-side who was blatantly off-side and the linesman makes a mistake? You have a few big screens on top of the stands, that every single one of the 50000 in the stadium can see, playing instant replays, and you also see yourself making a foolish decision? But you can't reverse your decision or ask a fourth ref, right? Sure, these calls would interrupt the flow of play, but then one could, as in many other sports just stop the clock as well.
May 22, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Florian Reischl (5/22/2009)
Something new for this threads topic::w00t:
Now, that' a very interesting approach. Could have never thought of that myself. Kill SQL, then copy MDF and LDF?
Paul Randal saw that one as well and tweeted about it. Users never cease to amaze me.
Jack Corbett
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May 22, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
I actually think that is one of the reasons I LIKE soccer, there are no instant replays, the referee and his assistants have to make the calls in real time. Plus, the Laws of the Game even tell us NOT to call triffling or questionable fouls. In a well played and officiated game we should not even be remembered.
I'm with you on this one Lynn. Excluding the NBA, most officials get it right the vast majority of the time.
Instant Replay has become a crutch in sports that use it. Make a call, stick with it, and deal with the consequences. And this from a Patriot's fan whose team got to it's first Super Bowl thanks to the "tuck rule" via instant replay.
Jack Corbett
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May 22, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
This is what i was looking for:The “modern” game dates from 1863 when the first “Laws of the Game” were
produced as the result of a meeting, in Fleet Street, London, between a number
of “young gentlemen’s schools” that wished to play against each other and
therefore needed a single set of Laws. Note: At that meeting one school
declined to participate and decided to produce laws for a game of their own. The
declining school was Rugby. The game of Rugby Football is also played
worldwide and provided the basis of the game of “Football” known by Americans.
The reason that one club objected was because kicking on the shins was to be outlawed. Or so I read. Not that shin-kicking is usually allowed in modern day Rugby though. But I must say, even though I'm a Soccer fan, and only learned to watch Rugby once I moved down here, I agree that Pro-Rugby players are much better behaved on the field than Soccer players at the same level. Maybe it has to do with the fact that nowadays the refs are equipped with earphone and mike, plus their rulings being audible to the spectators (as opposed to soccer, where you can't hear them), plus that video can be used (like in Cricket) if the upmire isn't sure of what decision to take? The players have to really watch themselves these days.
I actually think that is one of the reasons I LIKE soccer, there are no instant replays, the referee and his assistants have to make the calls in real time. Plus, the Laws of the Game even tell us NOT to call triffling or questionable fouls. In a well played and officiated game we should not even be remembered.
I understand where you are coming from Lynn. BUT. What about the things that happen behind your back, that even the linesmen didn't see? What if you call someone on-side who was blatantly off-side and the linesman makes a mistake? You have a few big screens on top of the stands, that every single one of the 50000 in the stadium can see, playing instant replays, and you also see yourself making a foolish decision? But you can't reverse your decision or ask a fourth ref, right? Sure, these calls would interrupt the flow of play, but then one could, as in many other sports just stop the clock as well.
Guess he should enhance DBCC with an option "RECOVER FROM SQLKILL" 😛
May 22, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I think the NBA refs are good, but in a horrible spot. I'm amazed how often on replays I see what they called, either more or less contact than I thought at normal speed.
The issues with so few star players (relatively) impacting the league means that it's tough to make too many calls on them.
May 22, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Darn, ended up quoting the wrong post for a time... Was meant as a response to Jack's post. Apologies.
May 22, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Guess he should enhance DBCC with an option "RECOVER FROM SQLKILL" 😛
Fortunately, as long as the log and data files are intact, that usually doesn't cause problems. SQL can recover. Though I'm not sure I want to try copying the files off and attaching them elsewhere.
I've killed the SQL process a number of times (on production server) using task manager.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
May 22, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
Jan Van der Eecken (5/22/2009)
Lynn Pettis (5/22/2009)
This is what i was looking for:The “modern” game dates from 1863 when the first “Laws of the Game” were
produced as the result of a meeting, in Fleet Street, London, between a number
of “young gentlemen’s schools” that wished to play against each other and
therefore needed a single set of Laws. Note: At that meeting one school
declined to participate and decided to produce laws for a game of their own. The
declining school was Rugby. The game of Rugby Football is also played
worldwide and provided the basis of the game of “Football” known by Americans.
The reason that one club objected was because kicking on the shins was to be outlawed. Or so I read. Not that shin-kicking is usually allowed in modern day Rugby though. But I must say, even though I'm a Soccer fan, and only learned to watch Rugby once I moved down here, I agree that Pro-Rugby players are much better behaved on the field than Soccer players at the same level. Maybe it has to do with the fact that nowadays the refs are equipped with earphone and mike, plus their rulings being audible to the spectators (as opposed to soccer, where you can't hear them), plus that video can be used (like in Cricket) if the upmire isn't sure of what decision to take? The players have to really watch themselves these days.
I actually think that is one of the reasons I LIKE soccer, there are no instant replays, the referee and his assistants have to make the calls in real time. Plus, the Laws of the Game even tell us NOT to call triffling or questionable fouls. In a well played and officiated game we should not even be remembered.
I understand where you are coming from Lynn. BUT. What about the things that happen behind your back, that even the linesmen didn't see? What if you call someone on-side who was blatantly off-side and the linesman makes a mistake? You have a few big screens on top of the stands, that every single one of the 50000 in the stadium can see, playing instant replays, and you also see yourself making a foolish decision? But you can't reverse your decision or ask a fourth ref, right? Sure, these calls would interrupt the flow of play, but then one could, as in many other sports just stop the clock as well.
As I said, we are human, and we have to learn to adapt our officiating style to match the play. If we miss a call, we miss a call. If we make a mistake and catch it before we restart play, we can correct the mistake (I've done that on a few occasions).
I have to deal with parents who think they know better than me all the time. Unfortunately, none of them are willing to take the Basic Referee class and step foot on the pitch as a referee.
If something happens behind my back, that is the responsibility of the Trailing AR. They miss things too. We may see the aftermath, but unless we see it, we can't call it. All we can do is make adjustments and hope it doesn't happen again. Hmmm, Continuous Quality Improvement. As long as we learn and adapt, we are doing our job.
May 22, 2009 at 2:55 pm
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