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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736270 More actions · Answer 1

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December 22, 2008 at 12:59 pm

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No apology needed, bitbucket.

Thanks

Ron McCullough SSC Guru Points: 63877 More actions · Answer 2

Best way I know of to broadcast this to frequenter users of this forum.

Please read what I consider to be an important post ... last message on page 2 by Philip Horan

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic622450-1291-1.aspx

In addition note how this OP followed up on my requests to him and his willingness to come back and post his results.

No pork chops for this OP... but a great big pat on the back is deserved!!

If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.

Ron

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004362 More actions · Answer 3

Ya gotta love it when the ops cooperate.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

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Ron McCullough SSC Guru Points: 63877 More actions · Answer 4

Jeff's

Ya gotta love it when the ops cooperate.

Learn from them as well as love it ! ! !

If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.

Ron

Please help us, help you -before posting a question please read[/url]
Before posting a performance problem please read[/url]

Jonathan Kehayias One Orange Chip Points: 26778 More actions · Answer 5

Jack Corbett (12/22/2008)
Michael Earl (12/22/2008)
Ok, what happened here?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic624072-146-1.aspx
Someone trying to see if they could get on this thread?

Does that mean they won the $100? If that was their goal, they can proudly claim "Mission Accomplished!"

Jonathan Kehayias One Orange Chip Points: 26778 More actions · Answer 6

bitbucket (12/22/2008)
Best way I know of to broadcast this to frequenter users of this forum.
Please read what I consider to be an important post ... last message on page 2 by Philip Horan
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic622450-1291-1.aspx
In addition note how this OP followed up on my requests to him and his willingness to come back and post his results.
No pork chops for this OP... but a great big pat on the back is deserved!!

Hmm, outside of the people who actually answer posts frequently, it is rare to have someone come back and provide the answer and references like that. Impressive to say the least.

SQLBill SSC Guru Points: 51440 More actions · Answer 7

Hmmm, I got on this thread really late, but here's my input...

I think in the economy some people are getting into jobs that are 'over their heads'. I remember seeing on one of my tech sites a person posted that they had lied on their resume so they could get a higher paying job and actually got it. They were letting everyone know that it was from what they learned on the tech site that they were able to lie well enough to get the job. They also posted that they knew they would be on the site daily to do their job since they really didn't know anything about SQL Server.

Now that's a really far out there and rare occurance, but it probably happens more than we are aware of. The IT field is a high-paying field and employers are always looking for some one but may not know enough to 'weed' out the ones who aren't capable of performing.

With all the tech forums available, it is feasible for someone to get hired onto a small company and fake their way through their job by using the available forums.

-SQLBill

TheRedneckDBA SSChampion Points: 14001 More actions · Answer 8

So should posters take it as a compliment that someone was able to fake an interview with SSC posts, or as an insult?

I've also looked at a post or two and wondered is the poster was posting a homework/school project.

The Redneck DBA

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736270 More actions · Answer 9

Here's a great email to the webmaster. Figured it would look great in this thread.

Subject:Respected sir/madam, [Regarding experiece and company name with 2 years experience]

my name is xxxx yyyy. i have completed my BE(computer science & enggineering) in 2006. i was doing job in a particular company as a software developer in .NET(C#), asp.net, ado.net, crystal report. but after one year company closed. So, I need a experience of two years on .NET(C#) with another company name. Can you help me for this situation. Beause on the time of interview or after getting job that company will verify my experience and company name through HR by base phone number or mobile no. I need call also from companies. And i need reply soon. I will be thankfull to you.

tosscrosby SSCoach Points: 18045 More actions · Answer 10

Steve Jones - Editor (12/23/2008)
Here's a great email to the webmaster. Figured it would look great in this thread.
Subject:Respected sir/madam, [Regarding experiece and company name with 2 years experience]
my name is xxxx yyyy. i have completed my BE(computer science & enggineering) in 2006. i was doing job in a particular company as a software developer in .NET(C#), asp.net, ado.net, crystal report. but after one year company closed. So, I need a experience of two years on .NET(C#) with another company name. Can you help me for this situation. Beause on the time of interview or after getting job that company will verify my experience and company name through HR by base phone number or mobile no. I need call also from companies. And i need reply soon. I will be thankfull to you.

This simply validates SQLBill's post. People do get in over their heads and look for bailout help from the various forums. I think people should have room to grow into their position but they should have the knowledge to at least hit the floor running first. I, and I'm sure many of you as well, started out near the bottom of the ladder and advanced our way up by building our skill sets. Maybe with the way the economy is, people are taking jobs that they are vastly under-qualified but can BS their way into, to simply make the most money they can before they are exposed as inept and possibly relieved of their position? One way or another, if there's any justice, it all comes out in the end.

-- You can't be late until you show up.

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736270 More actions · Answer 11

I'm not sure that's asking for help. That's blatant fraud, as far as I'm concerned.

Jack Corbett SSC Guru Points: 184394 More actions · Answer 12

Steve Jones - Editor (12/23/2008)
I'm not sure that's asking for help. That's blatant fraud, as far as I'm concerned.

It sure is. I think a lot of resumes are like that as well. When I was unemployed I went to an agency that teaches you how to write a "winning" resume and use your network and it is a little scary, because I think what they teach is to exaggerate your experiences. For example, in the resume they helped me prepare, I sounded like an integral part of the design for every project I worked on, when in reality I was an implementer, not a designer. There were no outright lies, but I was uncomfortable with some of what they recommended, so I toned it down some before I sent it out. That resume got me several interviews I would never have gotten with the one I had before, but I was careful to make sure I could back what was on it.

References are important.

Jack Corbett
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TheRedneckDBA SSChampion Points: 14001 More actions · Answer 13

Jack Corbett (12/23/2008)
Steve Jones - Editor (12/23/2008)
I'm not sure that's asking for help. That's blatant fraud, as far as I'm concerned.
It sure is. I think a lot of resumes are like that as well. When I was unemployed I went to an agency that teaches you how to write a "winning" resume and use your network and it is a little scary, because I think what they teach is to exaggerate your experiences. For example, in the resume they helped me prepare, I sounded like an integral part of the design for every project I worked on, when in reality I was an implementer, not a designer. There were no outright lies, but I was uncomfortable with some of what they recommended, so I toned it down some before I sent it out. That resume got me several interviews I would never have gotten with the one I had before, but I was careful to make sure I could back what was on it.
References are important.

I had the same thoughts when I used an employment agency that redid my resume for me a couple of years ago. It's a fine line sometimes between being complete in all of your accomplishments and skillsets to make yourself look good, and overrepresenting yourself to the point of being dishonest.

The Redneck DBA

Michael Valentine Jones SSC Guru Points: 64818 More actions · Answer 14

If there is someone doing a DBA interview that doesn’t have the technical understanding to be able to weed out a bogus DBA, then they probably shouldn’t be in their position.

I went to an interview once that was simply an HR person who spent the whole time asking me definitions of IT industry buzz words. I soon realized that what this company wanted to hire was consultants who could use buzz word knowledge to be able to BS their potential clients. I didn't get the job, but I have had the pleasure several times since of subjecting their consultants to extremely hostile and humiliating interviews before showing them the door when they wanted to work on projects for my current employer. Pay back and all that…

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736270 More actions · Answer 15

Not sure about that. There are plenty of people interviewing DBAs because they know they need one, and don't have the skills to do the job. They could be technical or non-technical.