Are the posted questions getting worse?
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EL Jerry (7/31/2014)
Just FYI...45K posts on The Thread
:Wow:
We're supposed to keep it hush hush and then party when we hit 100k.
Sidebar...are we supposed to pronounce your alias as "L Jerry" (gringo style) or is it "El Herry" ?
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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Jeff Moden (7/30/2014)
Jeff Moden (7/30/2014)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/30/2014)
Perhaps there's something here? Maybe an auto move of the question to Ask.SSC?
Interesting idea.
Instead of a move to Ask.SSC, maybe a special forum for each edition called "Quick Answers Only"?
Hmmm, maybe. However without tags (another ask), really these fit more with the Ask format. If someone wants a fish, a quick answer to a specific question, I think we might move it there, with a link from here (maybe a back link as well). That way if there's a discussion, it can continue, but there's a shorter, maybe concise answer elsewhere.
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The problem with SO is the sheer volume. With volume comes a drop in quality: of the questions asked, answers given, and (in my view) the average behaviour of the participants. I actively avoid participating on SO, unless specifically asked.
That said, I am a fan of the idea of compiling a 'wiki' of high-quality broadly-applicable questions and answers that many people will find useful, now and in the future. This is, for me, the essential difference between the Database Administrators[/url] Stack Exchange site that I contribute to as much as I can, versus the specific-question, specific-answer, extended discussion model of, say, SSC. These approaches are compatible and complementary, to a great extent.
I think the reputation/privileges model is beneficial, taken as a whole. The 'mess' that is SO aside, this model does encourage positive behaviours and reward constructive participation on Database Administrators. We have a moderate number of excellent questions and answers, and a great crew of 'regulars' with practical knowledge across a broad range of DBMSs and a real desire to help. There is no minimum to ask a question or post an answer (you don't even need to log in if you don't want to). Reputation points mean good answers float to the top, and bad answers are retained as a warning of bad practice.
Off-topic or extended discussion is discouraged on the main site, but that's why we have a dedicated chat system[/url] for each site. There is a small rep requirement (20) to chat, and a bit more to create a room of your own (perhaps to discuss a question at length, or to pursue a related topic), but this is only sensible to prevent abuse and spam etc.
There is even general on- and off-topic conversation a la Thread on The Heap. I hope we are always welcoming and never rude, but if we are you should let us know and we'll fix it.
I'm not saying all this to say that DBA.SE is better or worse than SSC. For my personal purposes, it has significant benefits, so I choose to contribute there most of the time. Opposing views are equally (or possibly more) valid.
edit: The thing I found awkward to get used to at first was the collaborative editing model, where anyone can suggest an edit (though community approval is needed) and high-rep users are trusted to edit constructively without review. The safeguard (aside from the full moderators) is that edits can always be rolled back by the OP, whatever his or her rep level. Edits are pretty fundamental to the 'wiki' idea of collaborative improvement.
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Just dropped over to the Heap Consultancy and I see a comment from Bill in KC about me staring at him from the login banner and then this:
"Steve is cool"
Maybe I should visit SO/SE more often 😀
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/31/2014)
Just dropped over to the Heap Consultancy and I see a comment from Bill in KC about me staring at him from the login banner and then this:"Steve is cool"
Maybe I should visit SO/SE more often 😀
Took a peak, felt like "Danny Glover: i'm getting too old for this...."
😎
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/31/2014)
Maybe I should visit SO/SE more often 😀The riff-raff filter has been playing up recently :w00t:
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To qualify my statement, I have no personal context for anything involving Jeff Moden and I'd welcome him. I've only perused SSC forums in the past and have just noticed trends - especially vis a vis a string splitting function. Just making an observation. I do hope that Jeff wanders over to The Heap and everyone proves me incorrect.
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To qualify my statement, Steve stares at my legs a lot. 😛
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William J. Fellows (7/31/2014)
To qualify my statement, Steve stares at my legs a lot. 😛Think you got it wrong, he's not the tallest tree in the forest:-P
😎
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swasheck (7/31/2014)
To qualify my statement, I have no personal context for anything involving Jeff Moden and I'd welcome him. I've only perused SSC forums in the past and have just noticed trends - especially vis a vis a string splitting function. Just making an observation. I do hope that Jeff wanders over to The Heap and everyone proves me incorrect.Bahaha
Jeff is personable in person.:-D:-D
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events -
William J. Fellows (7/31/2014)
To qualify my statement, Steve stares at my legs a lot. 😛Well, you have good looking legs.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events -
SQLRNNR (7/31/2014)
William J. Fellows (7/31/2014)
To qualify my statement, Steve stares at my legs a lot. 😛Well, you have good looking legs.
:exclamation:Unwanted details:sick:
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Eirikur Eiriksson (7/31/2014)
SQLRNNR (7/31/2014)
William J. Fellows (7/31/2014)
To qualify my statement, Steve stares at my legs a lot. 😛Well, you have good looking legs.
:exclamation:Unwanted details:sick:
Task achieved!!
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events -
SQLRNNR (7/31/2014)
swasheck (7/31/2014)
To qualify my statement, I have no personal context for anything involving Jeff Moden and I'd welcome him. I've only perused SSC forums in the past and have just noticed trends - especially vis a vis a string splitting function. Just making an observation. I do hope that Jeff wanders over to The Heap and everyone proves me incorrect.Bahaha
Jeff is personable in person.:-D:-D
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