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Luis Cazares SSC Guru Points: 183706 More actions · Answer 1

Stefan Krzywicki (7/16/2014)
Luis Cazares (7/16/2014)
Jack Corbett (7/16/2014)
Stefan Krzywicki (7/16/2014)
I posted a question here (http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1593226-391-1.aspx) on Memory Grants and Varchar(max) and I'd love to hear any opinions the people in this thread might have.
For some reason when I click the link I'm brought to the THREAD and not to your post. Is THE THREAD taking over all links on the site:crazy:
I corrected the link in this post 😉
Thanks. Did I err in using " around the url?

Yes, if you include them it will only reference the current page. You did the same with your post.

Luis C.
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djj SSCoach Points: 18831 More actions · Answer 2

Lynn Pettis (7/16/2014)
Anybody? Can anybody please step in again and try helping me with WC? Frustrated, can't seem to get him to realize I just don't know what he is trying to accomplish. Encrypt data in place? Encrypt in place and then transfer to another database (possibly on a different server)?
Tried to point out some of the issues that need to be considered. Now he thinks I'm offended and/or angry. Nope, just frustrated.

I actually thought I would try and help at the beginning but I misunderstood what was required. Thought the others were doing a good job and did not look back after page 2.

Been busy today and not able to get to "Anything that is NOT about SQL!" much. Wow!:crazy:

Hope it works out for everyone.

Sioban Krzywicki One Orange Chip Points: 27770 More actions · Answer 3

Luis Cazares (7/16/2014)
Stefan Krzywicki (7/16/2014)
Luis Cazares (7/16/2014)
Jack Corbett (7/16/2014)
Stefan Krzywicki (7/16/2014)
I posted a question here (http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1593226-391-1.aspx) on Memory Grants and Varchar(max) and I'd love to hear any opinions the people in this thread might have.
For some reason when I click the link I'm brought to the THREAD and not to your post. Is THE THREAD taking over all links on the site:crazy:
I corrected the link in this post 😉
Thanks. Did I err in using " around the url?
Yes, if you include them it will only reference the current page. You did the same with your post.

Got it. Fixed here and in the post.

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Evil Kraig F SSC Guru Points: 100851 More actions · Answer 4

Lynn Pettis (7/16/2014)
Anybody? Can anybody please step in again and try helping me with WC? Frustrated, can't seem to get him to realize I just don't know what he is trying to accomplish. Encrypt data in place? Encrypt in place and then transfer to another database (possibly on a different server)?
Tried to point out some of the issues that need to be considered. Now he thinks I'm offended and/or angry. Nope, just frustrated.

Sorry St. Lynn, but nope. I don't ignore people but that particular person frustrates me as much as K does (you know him if you've argued with him) but for different reasons. When they ask a direct and straightforward question, I'll help. When they're looking to be forcefed via silver spoon, I no longer wish to help that particular person.

Elitism: When you ignore everyone that doesn't meet your "standards". Aka: SO

Frustration: When you ignore a particular person on the value of their own merits. Aka: Reality.

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Koen Verbeeck SSC Guru Points: 259105 More actions · Answer 5

Sean Lange (7/16/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/16/2014)
Anybody? Can anybody please step in again and try helping me with WC? Frustrated, can't seem to get him to realize I just don't know what he is trying to accomplish. Encrypt data in place? Encrypt in place and then transfer to another database (possibly on a different server)?
Tried to point out some of the issues that need to be considered. Now he thinks I'm offended and/or angry. Nope, just frustrated.
I decided long ago that this person is unable to grasp what is required for them to be successful. As a result I might glance at their thread but pretty much just move on. I really enjoy helping others and turning in the right direction when they need help but this person is more like a beggar on the street. The more handouts you give them, the more they ask for and the less they are able to fend for themselves. I would not want SSC to become one of "those" places, like SO where "you aren't worthy" but seriously...

+1. I've added him a while ago to my "to avoid list".

How cruel/arrogant/whatever that may sound...

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Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286590 More actions · Answer 6

Koen Verbeeck (7/16/2014)
Sean Lange (7/16/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/16/2014)
Anybody? Can anybody please step in again and try helping me with WC? Frustrated, can't seem to get him to realize I just don't know what he is trying to accomplish. Encrypt data in place? Encrypt in place and then transfer to another database (possibly on a different server)?
Tried to point out some of the issues that need to be considered. Now he thinks I'm offended and/or angry. Nope, just frustrated.
I decided long ago that this person is unable to grasp what is required for them to be successful. As a result I might glance at their thread but pretty much just move on. I really enjoy helping others and turning in the right direction when they need help but this person is more like a beggar on the street. The more handouts you give them, the more they ask for and the less they are able to fend for themselves. I would not want SSC to become one of "those" places, like SO where "you aren't worthy" but seriously...
+1. I've added him a while ago to my "to avoid list".
How cruel/arrogant/whatever that may sound...

Not to me. I have my own mental list of people who I will help if they post enough details but won't put much effort into. It isn't a long list but it avoids me getting frustrated. I figure I can help them fix their code by teaching them the proper methodologies, but I can't fix their stupid. 😀

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Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287026 More actions · Answer 7

Evil Kraig F (7/16/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/16/2014)
Anybody? Can anybody please step in again and try helping me with WC? Frustrated, can't seem to get him to realize I just don't know what he is trying to accomplish. Encrypt data in place? Encrypt in place and then transfer to another database (possibly on a different server)?
Tried to point out some of the issues that need to be considered. Now he thinks I'm offended and/or angry. Nope, just frustrated.
Sorry St. Lynn, but nope. I don't ignore people but that particular person frustrates me as much as K does (you know him if you've argued with him) but for different reasons. When they ask a direct and straightforward question, I'll help. When they're looking to be forcefed via silver spoon, I no longer wish to help that particular person.
Elitism: When you ignore everyone that doesn't meet your "standards". Aka: SO
Frustration: When you ignore a particular person on the value of their own merits. Aka: Reality.

I'm trying, but I don't think I'm getting anywhere. If he looks to SSIS for anything, I'm done. Like I just told him, I don't know SSIS beyond spelling it, and I've even gotten that wrong a couple of times. 😛

I know what you mean about frustration. And Kraig, my compliments on your definitions.

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Jack Corbett SSC Guru Points: 184394 More actions · Answer 8

Eirikur Eiriksson (7/16/2014)
No implied either, my respect on handling the situation! So far, JC is the only one that has managed to rub me the wrong way:-D
😎

Hmmm, I hope I'm not the JC who rubbed you the wrong way.

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Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287026 More actions · Answer 9

Sean Lange (7/16/2014)
Koen Verbeeck (7/16/2014)
Sean Lange (7/16/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/16/2014)
Anybody? Can anybody please step in again and try helping me with WC? Frustrated, can't seem to get him to realize I just don't know what he is trying to accomplish. Encrypt data in place? Encrypt in place and then transfer to another database (possibly on a different server)?
Tried to point out some of the issues that need to be considered. Now he thinks I'm offended and/or angry. Nope, just frustrated.
I decided long ago that this person is unable to grasp what is required for them to be successful. As a result I might glance at their thread but pretty much just move on. I really enjoy helping others and turning in the right direction when they need help but this person is more like a beggar on the street. The more handouts you give them, the more they ask for and the less they are able to fend for themselves. I would not want SSC to become one of "those" places, like SO where "you aren't worthy" but seriously...
+1. I've added him a while ago to my "to avoid list".
How cruel/arrogant/whatever that may sound...
Not to me.

Not to me either. I must admit that he's caused me to think about forming my own list.

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x SSC-Insane Points: 23660 More actions · Answer 10

Jack Corbett (7/16/2014)
Eirikur Eiriksson (7/16/2014)
No implied either, my respect on handling the situation! So far, JC is the only one that has managed to rub me the wrong way:-D
😎
Hmmm, I hope I'm not the JC who rubbed you the wrong way.

I'm betting its Lynn's best pal, Joe C :hehe:

Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442467 More actions · Answer 11

patrickmcginnis59 10839 (7/16/2014)
Jack Corbett (7/16/2014)
Eirikur Eiriksson (7/16/2014)
No implied either, my respect on handling the situation! So far, JC is the only one that has managed to rub me the wrong way:-D
😎
Hmmm, I hope I'm not the JC who rubbed you the wrong way.
I'm betting its Lynn's best pal, Joe C :hehe:

Actually I call him Mr. C as I don't want to get too familiar with him.

Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286590 More actions · Answer 12

Lynn Pettis (7/16/2014)
patrickmcginnis59 10839 (7/16/2014)
Jack Corbett (7/16/2014)
Eirikur Eiriksson (7/16/2014)
No implied either, my respect on handling the situation! So far, JC is the only one that has managed to rub me the wrong way:-D
😎
Hmmm, I hope I'm not the JC who rubbed you the wrong way.
I'm betting its Lynn's best pal, Joe C :hehe:
Actually I call him Mr. C as I don't want to get too familiar with him.

I go with JC. I also almost always think about needing a rubber bracelet with "WWJCD". 😀

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Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
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Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

Evil Kraig F SSC Guru Points: 100851 More actions · Answer 13

Sean Lange (7/16/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/16/2014)
patrickmcginnis59 10839 (7/16/2014)
Jack Corbett (7/16/2014)
Eirikur Eiriksson (7/16/2014)
No implied either, my respect on handling the situation! So far, JC is the only one that has managed to rub me the wrong way:-D
😎
Hmmm, I hope I'm not the JC who rubbed you the wrong way.
I'm betting its Lynn's best pal, Joe C :hehe:
Actually I call him Mr. C as I don't want to get too familiar with him.
I go with JC. I also almost always think about needing a rubber bracelet with "WWJCD". 😀

And then invert?

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Never stop learning, even if it hurts. Ego bruises are practically mandatory as you learn unless you've never risked enough to make a mistake.

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Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286590 More actions · Answer 14

Evil Kraig F (7/16/2014)
Sean Lange (7/16/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/16/2014)
patrickmcginnis59 10839 (7/16/2014)
Jack Corbett (7/16/2014)
Eirikur Eiriksson (7/16/2014)
No implied either, my respect on handling the situation! So far, JC is the only one that has managed to rub me the wrong way:-D
😎
Hmmm, I hope I'm not the JC who rubbed you the wrong way.
I'm betting its Lynn's best pal, Joe C :hehe:
Actually I call him Mr. C as I don't want to get too familiar with him.
I go with JC. I also almost always think about needing a rubber bracelet with "WWJCD". 😀
And then invert?

LOL. Is that like 1 - (JC * D * WW)?

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Need help? Help us help you.

Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

Luis Cazares SSC Guru Points: 183706 More actions · Answer 15

Sean Lange (7/16/2014)
Evil Kraig F (7/16/2014)
Sean Lange (7/16/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/16/2014)
patrickmcginnis59 10839 (7/16/2014)
Jack Corbett (7/16/2014)
Eirikur Eiriksson (7/16/2014)
No implied either, my respect on handling the situation! So far, JC is the only one that has managed to rub me the wrong way:-D
😎
Hmmm, I hope I'm not the JC who rubbed you the wrong way.
I'm betting its Lynn's best pal, Joe C :hehe:
Actually I call him Mr. C as I don't want to get too familiar with him.
I go with JC. I also almost always think about needing a rubber bracelet with "WWJCD". 😀
And then invert?
LOL. Is that like 1 - (JC * D * WW)?

Or you might want the one with WWJCRA?

Luis C.
General Disclaimer:
Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help: Option 1 / Option 2