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SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 1

Lynn Pettis (7/15/2014)
GilaMonster (7/15/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/15/2014)
Whose turn with the silver spoon??
Sorry, mine's already packed.
And I left mine back in the States. Didn't want to chance losing it here in Afghanistan.

How about the cat in the cradle then?

Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004366 More actions · Answer 2

Lynn Pettis (7/15/2014)
OMG, how can someone who has been working with SQL Server for over 9 years still behave like an entry level DBA/Developer??
Whose turn with the silver spoon??

Link, please? I have a new silver pork chop launcher I need to test. 😛

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736270 More actions · Answer 3

Lynn Pettis (7/15/2014)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/15/2014)
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Welcome back, Steve.

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Evil Kraig F SSC Guru Points: 100851 More actions · Answer 4

Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/15/2014)
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... welcome back. 😉

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 5

Jeff Moden (7/15/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/15/2014)
OMG, how can someone who has been working with SQL Server for over 9 years still behave like an entry level DBA/Developer??
Whose turn with the silver spoon??
Link, please? I have a new silver pork chop launcher I need to test. 😛

Ah, why not

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1592782.aspx (link to one of my later posts in the thread, but you can just scroll up)

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
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Luis Cazares SSC Guru Points: 183706 More actions · Answer 6

GilaMonster (7/15/2014)
Jeff Moden (7/15/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/15/2014)
OMG, how can someone who has been working with SQL Server for over 9 years still behave like an entry level DBA/Developer??
Whose turn with the silver spoon??
Link, please? I have a new silver pork chop launcher I need to test. 😛
Ah, why not
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1592782.aspx (link to one of my later posts in the thread, but you can just scroll up)

Is it a coincidence that the initials are W.C.?

Luis C.
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Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004366 More actions · Answer 7

GilaMonster (7/15/2014)
Ah, why not
(link to one of my later posts in the thread, but you can just scroll up)

You're right. Pork chops won't work there. Has to be a silver spoon. The info you posted would be more than enough for most. I sometimes feel really bad for that person for the reasons previously stated. Nice person but really sensitive. Lots of care required there.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442467 More actions · Answer 8

Jeff Moden (7/15/2014)
GilaMonster (7/15/2014)
Ah, why not
(link to one of my later posts in the thread, but you can just scroll up)
You're right. Pork chops won't work there. Has to be a silver spoon. The info you posted would be more than enough for most. I sometimes feel really bad for that person for the reasons previously stated. Nice person but really sensitive. Lots of care required there.

I swear it feels like 3 months experience 36 times. All it takes is setting up a sandbox and working through it to solve the problem. How does he plan on supporting this if he can't even figure it out himself? Spoon feeding someone can only take them so far. At some point they have to start figuring things out themselves and ask questions when they run into more specific issues rather than questions that are so wide open.

SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 9

Lynn Pettis (7/15/2014)
Jeff Moden (7/15/2014)
GilaMonster (7/15/2014)
Ah, why not
(link to one of my later posts in the thread, but you can just scroll up)
You're right. Pork chops won't work there. Has to be a silver spoon. The info you posted would be more than enough for most. I sometimes feel really bad for that person for the reasons previously stated. Nice person but really sensitive. Lots of care required there.
I swear it feels like 3 months experience 36 times. All it takes is setting up a sandbox and working through it to solve the problem. How does he plan on supporting this if he can't even figure it out himself? Spoon feeding someone can only take them so far. At some point they have to start figuring things out themselves and ask questions when they run into more specific issues rather than questions that are so wide open.

It seems as if there was a huge regression in the case of that person.

I have to wonder if maybe some physical ailment might have happened. Just think about it, what if there was something physical that caused that regression...

Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
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The Dixie Flatline SSC Guru Points: 53354 More actions · Answer 10

Sometimes I think MVPs are a real pain in the ***. Present company excepted.

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TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 11

GilaMonster (7/15/2014)
Jeff Moden (7/15/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/15/2014)
OMG, how can someone who has been working with SQL Server for over 9 years still behave like an entry level DBA/Developer??
Whose turn with the silver spoon??
Link, please? I have a new silver pork chop launcher I need to test. 😛
Ah, why not
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1592782.aspx (link to one of my later posts in the thread, but you can just scroll up)

It's horrifying. AN entry level DBA or developer would surely not be at a loss after reading the documentation. It's difficult to see how he can have a problem if he's read the page he says he read. Anyway, just to see if it will help I've had a try at writing an idiot's guide.

edit: Jason may have a point when he suggests something incapacitating may have happened.

Tom

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004366 More actions · Answer 12

SQLRNNR (7/15/2014)
Lynn Pettis (7/15/2014)
Jeff Moden (7/15/2014)
GilaMonster (7/15/2014)
Ah, why not
(link to one of my later posts in the thread, but you can just scroll up)
You're right. Pork chops won't work there. Has to be a silver spoon. The info you posted would be more than enough for most. I sometimes feel really bad for that person for the reasons previously stated. Nice person but really sensitive. Lots of care required there.
I swear it feels like 3 months experience 36 times. All it takes is setting up a sandbox and working through it to solve the problem. How does he plan on supporting this if he can't even figure it out himself? Spoon feeding someone can only take them so far. At some point they have to start figuring things out themselves and ask questions when they run into more specific issues rather than questions that are so wide open.
It seems as if there was a huge regression in the case of that person.
I have to wonder if maybe some physical ailment might have happened. Just think about it, what if there was something physical that caused that regression...

You're seeing something that I'm not. I've never seen a really sharp tack in that particular box. I admit that I've seen great motivation on occasion with several great "tries" as well as the occasional success. I've also seen a multitude of posts over the years like the most recent where there appears to be no will to experiment or to the necessary deep dive. It might be someone that's been worked half to death or someone that just has the same kinds of "I'm beat" (as in "tired") moments that we've all had at one time or another. It might also be someone that learns by example and has a tough time learning by book. I'm that way on a lot of things. For example, I still suck at XML. :blush:

To be honest, it could also be absolute fear on this latest post. Working with and protecting peoples' most sacred personal information can be nerve racking if you've never done it before. To be honest, I'm glad this person is taking such caution and has such FUD about it. It's a refreshing change from the cock-sure "We store it in plain text because no one can get into our domain" or "it's not really that important or it would be company policy" attitudes. I'm glad to see someone that wants to do it right. I've never had to work with personal data that needed to be encrypted and then decrypted (I've only done salted hashes) or I'd be writing an example for that post right now.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004366 More actions · Answer 13

The Dixie Flatline (7/15/2014)
Sometimes I think MVPs are a real pain in the ***. Present company excepted.

Heh... now what on Earth brought that up? I ask because I happen to agree in some cases. Of course, that's not limited to MVPs or any group. There are jerks in every group no matter the group.

Never mind... with the knot holes that some have tried to run me through, I can just imagine. 😛

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398890 More actions · Answer 14

The Dixie Flatline (7/15/2014)
Sometimes I think MVPs are a real pain in the ***. Present company excepted.

Yes they are. And speaking for this present company, I am too.

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 15

Jeff Moden (7/15/2014)
To be honest, I'm glad this person is taking such caution and has such FUD about it.

I would be, if he were worrying in the right area, but he's not. The technical aspect of encryption is the easy part. The key management, the who are you protecting the data against, the what risks are you trying to mitigate, etc, that's the hard part of encryption.

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass