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  • TomThomson (6/16/2014)


    ChrisM@Work (6/16/2014)


    Ed Wagner (6/16/2014)


    A lot of people sure do like it, though. I played soccer when I was 10 (before soccer was fashionable in the US), but I don't understand the mania that goes along with it nowadays.

    Me neither.

    Rugby players have a couple of amusing takes on football, such as the difference between the two sports- one's a played by men pretending to be hurt, the other's played by men pretending not to be. Football players are known as "Prancing lawn fairies". There's more but this is a family show.

    I think that take is the Rugby players who haven't played soccer, and think that the game played by all the dive experts in professional soccer throughout Europe (especially England) is the real game.

    I stopped playing soccer when I was 16 or 17, having managed to break my left humerus about 1" from the shoulder joint, which I also dislocated - slightly, not grossly - at the same time, in the last game I played. That wasn't the first time I'd been seriously hurt playing soccer. After that I stuck to Rugby (Union, not League), which I found much less dangerous (League of course would have been even less dangerous), but stopped playing that too a dozen or so years later because with a wife and a daughter and a demanding job I just never got around to taking the time to find a club to join when I moved to Dalkeith.

    And like you I can't understand the soccer mania that we have now.

    I can understand how you were injured - the Scots kids I grew up with took their soccer very seriously indeed. Not just for the game. It was also perceived as an opportunity to give an enemy a pommelling and get away with it. School soccer in Forres was like Australian Rules Football played by meerkats high on fly agaric.

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  • John Mitchell-245523 (6/16/2014)


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    As much as that really sucked it did finally force Blatter to admit that something needs to change.

    Yes, he has had some pretty barmy ideas in the past, but I was actually with him on this one. Let's not forget, it's only a game. We're talking margins of millimetres in most cases. Let the referee decide, accept that he'll get it wrong from time to time, but understand that when he does, it's always in good faith. I went to my first ever rugby match last year - it was a Rugby League World Cup tie held in my home town. Football can learn a lot from rugby in terms of players' attitudes towards the referee. However, this technology thing meant play must stopped about half a dozen times for the video referee to be consulted, wasting perhaps between one and three minutes each time. I remember thinking I'm glad they don't have that in football - yet. People say that it will take some of the pressure off the referee, but I don't think that's the case. Imagine the criticism he's going to get if he fails to refer a decision and turns out to be wrong.

    Meanwhile, we have television pundits, many of whom don't understand the laws of the game, clamouring for more and more improvements and technological advances. Remember, the more fifth and sixth officials you have loitering on the goal line for Champions' League (and other) matches, the fewer good referees are available for matches in lesser competitions. And the more time FIFA spends discussing goal-line technology and the like, the less it will concentrate on developing the game at grassroots level or maybe cleaning up its own tarnished image.

    John

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    It is only a game but at the level we are talking about it has serious financial implications to the nations involved. I too really dislike the attitude soccer players have and openly express towards the referee.

    I never suggested we should add a bunch of officials, I suggested we should allow the 4th official to review replays for serious infractions not seen by the ref. The Costa headbutt is a perfect example. This is a case where the center did not see it but a brief review of a replay from the fourth official would have likely seen him receive a red card.

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  • rodjkidd (6/16/2014)


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    Koen Verbeeck (6/14/2014)


    Ah, the world cup...

    Yup, that's pretty much how I feel.

    I have little interest in sport. Most of the time that's fine. This week, I can't even go to my favourite coffee shop without feeling like I'm at the stadium (TV turned up very loud)

    +1. A lot of people sure do like it, though. I played soccer when I was 10 (before soccer was fashionable in the US), but I don't understand the mania that goes along with it nowadays.

    Me neither.

    Rugby players have a couple of amusing takes on football, such as the difference between the two sports- one's a played by men pretending to be hurt, the other's played by men pretending not to be. Football players are known as "Prancing lawn fairies". There's more but this is a family show.

    I'm pretty sure I lost a second interview slot for saying something very similar to that on my way out of the first interview.

    The company sponsored the nearest Premiership team!

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    Rodders...

    I might say the interview is not over until you have a response of either yay or nay. I know a couple of places that will go out and find the candidate on social media and monitor what they say/do for a few days weeks to see if the person might be a fit for the job.

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  • Sean Lange (6/16/2014)


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    I don't understand why so many soccer players have to roll around on the ground like they just broke their leg in half only to jump up 10 seconds later.

    Well, because they are a bunch of crying girlies (bunch of Prada-manbag wearing models).

    The incentive is clear enough: try to get a free kick or penalty or try to get the other player a red/yellow card. And because the FIFA is still living in mediavel times and doesn't allow technological assistence like in any other sport, it is pretty easy to foul the referee.

    LOL. At least this time around they are working a few technological advances (like goal line technology). And the aerosol can has been working very well the last few years in MLS. I would like to see the 4th official be allowed to review tape during the game so things like the Costa headbutt can be dealt with.

    I like the goal line tech addition this year. The magic aerosol can has always been intriguing to me.

    I would like to see live review or replay implemented in some fashion for at least red cards and PKs. Let the ref determine if it was more flop than foul (ok it usually is more flop than foul).

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  • george sibbald (6/16/2014)


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    Sean Lange (6/16/2014)


    ...a few technological advances (like goal line technology).

    Except that in one match already, with two different views of the goal line, one clearly showed no goal the other clearly showed a goal :crazy:

    Is that even possible? Which game was it?

    if we are talking about the same event - France vs Honduras

    If we had had goal line technology in 2010 England would have won the world cup.;-)

    The France v Honduras match was two different views but also two different contacts with the goal line.

    The no-goal was the ricochet off the post.

    The goal was after it bounced back across the line off the goalkeeper.

    I thought they did a great job with the GLT in getting that one right.

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  • SQLRNNR (6/16/2014)


    george sibbald (6/16/2014)


    Luis Cazares (6/16/2014)


    David Burrows (6/16/2014)


    Sean Lange (6/16/2014)


    ...a few technological advances (like goal line technology).

    Except that in one match already, with two different views of the goal line, one clearly showed no goal the other clearly showed a goal :crazy:

    Is that even possible? Which game was it?

    if we are talking about the same event - France vs Honduras

    If we had had goal line technology in 2010 England would have won the world cup.;-)

    The France v Honduras match was two different views but also two different contacts with the goal line.

    The no-goal was the ricochet off the post.

    The goal was after it bounced back across the line off the goalkeeper.

    I thought they did a great job with the GLT in getting that one right.

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  • SQLRNNR (6/16/2014)


    Sean Lange (6/16/2014)


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    I don't understand why so many soccer players have to roll around on the ground like they just broke their leg in half only to jump up 10 seconds later.

    Well, because they are a bunch of crying girlies (bunch of Prada-manbag wearing models).

    The incentive is clear enough: try to get a free kick or penalty or try to get the other player a red/yellow card. And because the FIFA is still living in mediavel times and doesn't allow technological assistence like in any other sport, it is pretty easy to foul the referee.

    LOL. At least this time around they are working a few technological advances (like goal line technology). And the aerosol can has been working very well the last few years in MLS. I would like to see the 4th official be allowed to review tape during the game so things like the Costa headbutt can be dealt with.

    I like the goal line tech addition this year. The magic aerosol can has always been intriguing to me.

    I would like to see live review or replay implemented in some fashion for at least red cards and PKs. Let the ref determine if it was more flop than foul (ok it usually is more flop than foul).

    The aerosol thing is pretty cool. It keeps the players from doing that stupid little foot wiggle to get 2-3 yards closer when the center turns around to deal the idiots in the box. In the MLS it has actually helped reduce the amount of stupidity in the box which goes to demonstrate how much of that is an intentional distraction to get the refs attention.

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  • Sean Lange (6/16/2014)


    It is only a game but at the level we are talking about it has serious financial implications to the nations involved. I too really dislike the attitude soccer players have and openly express towards the referee.

    I never suggested we should add a bunch of officials, I suggested we should allow the 4th official to review replays for serious infractions not seen by the ref. The Costa headbutt is a perfect example. This is a case where the center did not see it but a brief review of a replay from the fourth official would have likely seen him receive a red card.

    No, you didn't suggest it, but it's two sides of the same coin. The media gets so worked up about this sort of thing that the clamour gets too loud for FIFA to resist. These commentators have their minds set on improving the game for a tiny fraction of a percent of the people who play it, without considering the effect it will have on everybody else who plays and watches lower down.

    The trouble with real-time video evidence is that it slows the game down. Don't forget the fourth official is busy minding the technical area, supervising substitutions, waving that big number board about, and a dozen other things. You'd really need a fifth official sitting in a darkened room with a telly... which goes back to my point about taking referees from other games. Not only that, when does the referee refer, and when does he not? And most importantly of all, what if it's something the referee has totally missed, and it doesn't come to his attention until after he's restarted play?

    I get the point about financial implications, but I think this is more important than money. I can't see the importantance of spending all that time and money on divining hair's-breadths - especially when it's only going to be used in, say, 5% of all matches (and in half of those, the referee would have got it right anyway).

    Yes, goal-line technology is here now, and it's here to stay. I accept that, and I'm just explaining why I was against it and why I'm not in favour of any further such developments.

    By the way, I quite like the spray thing as well. Not sure why Pogba used it on his hair, though.

    John

  • SQLRNNR (6/16/2014)


    rodjkidd (6/16/2014)


    ChrisM@Work (6/16/2014)


    Ed Wagner (6/16/2014)


    GilaMonster (6/14/2014)


    Koen Verbeeck (6/14/2014)


    Ah, the world cup...

    Yup, that's pretty much how I feel.

    I have little interest in sport. Most of the time that's fine. This week, I can't even go to my favourite coffee shop without feeling like I'm at the stadium (TV turned up very loud)

    +1. A lot of people sure do like it, though. I played soccer when I was 10 (before soccer was fashionable in the US), but I don't understand the mania that goes along with it nowadays.

    Me neither.

    Rugby players have a couple of amusing takes on football, such as the difference between the two sports- one's a played by men pretending to be hurt, the other's played by men pretending not to be. Football players are known as "Prancing lawn fairies". There's more but this is a family show.

    I'm pretty sure I lost a second interview slot for saying something very similar to that on my way out of the first interview.

    The company sponsored the nearest Premiership team!

    Learnt to very important lessons there.

    The interview isn't over until you really have left the building / said goodbye to the person showing you the way out

    Remember what other ventures the company is involved with - like sponsorship πŸ˜‰

    Rodders...

    I might say the interview is not over until you have a response of either yay or nay. I know a couple of places that will go out and find the candidate on social media and monitor what they say/do for a few days weeks to see if the person might be a fit for the job.

    That's definitely the truth. The interview begins before the two people ever speak to one another because of the resume and internet searching for the candidate. The actual interview then occurs. It then continues when the searching, social media, etc. continues until a decision is made. All in all, it's about figuring out who the person is and if they're the right one for the job.

  • SQLRNNR (6/16/2014)


    rodjkidd (6/16/2014)


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    Ed Wagner (6/16/2014)


    GilaMonster (6/14/2014)


    Koen Verbeeck (6/14/2014)


    Ah, the world cup...

    Yup, that's pretty much how I feel.

    I have little interest in sport. Most of the time that's fine. This week, I can't even go to my favourite coffee shop without feeling like I'm at the stadium (TV turned up very loud)

    +1. A lot of people sure do like it, though. I played soccer when I was 10 (before soccer was fashionable in the US), but I don't understand the mania that goes along with it nowadays.

    Me neither.

    Rugby players have a couple of amusing takes on football, such as the difference between the two sports- one's a played by men pretending to be hurt, the other's played by men pretending not to be. Football players are known as "Prancing lawn fairies". There's more but this is a family show.

    I'm pretty sure I lost a second interview slot for saying something very similar to that on my way out of the first interview.

    The company sponsored the nearest Premiership team!

    Learnt to very important lessons there.

    The interview isn't over until you really have left the building / said goodbye to the person showing you the way out

    Remember what other ventures the company is involved with - like sponsorship πŸ˜‰

    Rodders...

    I might say the interview is not over until you have a response of either yay or nay. I know a couple of places that will go out and find the candidate on social media and monitor what they say/do for a few days weeks to see if the person might be a fit for the job.

    It was pre-social media by some years. But yes, such things now have to be taken into account as well.

    Rodders...

  • Sean Lange (6/16/2014)


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    Sean Lange (6/16/2014)


    Koen Verbeeck (6/16/2014)


    Sean Lange (6/16/2014)


    I don't understand why so many soccer players have to roll around on the ground like they just broke their leg in half only to jump up 10 seconds later.

    Well, because they are a bunch of crying girlies (bunch of Prada-manbag wearing models).

    The incentive is clear enough: try to get a free kick or penalty or try to get the other player a red/yellow card. And because the FIFA is still living in mediavel times and doesn't allow technological assistence like in any other sport, it is pretty easy to foul the referee.

    LOL. At least this time around they are working a few technological advances (like goal line technology). And the aerosol can has been working very well the last few years in MLS. I would like to see the 4th official be allowed to review tape during the game so things like the Costa headbutt can be dealt with.

    I like the goal line tech addition this year. The magic aerosol can has always been intriguing to me.

    I would like to see live review or replay implemented in some fashion for at least red cards and PKs. Let the ref determine if it was more flop than foul (ok it usually is more flop than foul).

    The aerosol thing is pretty cool. It keeps the players from doing that stupid little foot wiggle to get 2-3 yards closer when the center turns around to deal the idiots in the box. In the MLS it has actually helped reduce the amount of stupidity in the box which goes to demonstrate how much of that is an intentional distraction to get the refs attention.

    Unlike other sports, like Basketball and American Football, football (soccer) is a players game. The referees are there to try and keep the game safe, fair, fun. We are to interfere as little as possible which is why we don't call everything. If it is trifling or questionable we tend to let them go. We also look at does it have a impact on the game. Would we call a trip away from play, possibly, especially if starts to become a pattern (that is why the trailing AR is supposed to watch what happens behind the referee.

    We have very few signals and for the most part they indicate which direction paly will be restarting, not what the infraction was that resulted in the whistle (unless you are a high school soccer ref, and then there are additional signals which we luckily don't have to use many of them now).

    If everything goes smoothly, regardless of fouls being called, you really shouldn't remember the referees on the field and have been able to enjoy a great game of soccer, even if it ends in a 0 - 0 tie.

  • We seem to have totally our website to spammers with links to streaming. Hope there is somebody around who can stop this nonsense.

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  • Sean Lange (6/16/2014)


    We seem to have totally our website to spammers with links to streaming. Hope there is somebody around who can stop this nonsense.

    Is this a signal to stop talking about football (soccer)?

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    We seem to have totally our website to spammers with links to streaming. Hope there is somebody around who can stop this nonsense.

    Is this a signal to stop talking about football (soccer)?

    It may be a signal to stop looking at this site for a couple days. Seems that it is worse today, probably because of the U.S. game.

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  • Any chance one of y'all with inroads to the powers that be at RedGate could get someone to update the spam filters on the site for the duration of the World Cup?

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