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Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286590 More actions · Answer 1

dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?

There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀

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Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

jcrawf02 SSC-Insane Points: 24198 More actions · Answer 2

Ed Wagner (3/28/2014)
Of course, the question of how it could be right came up because there wasn't enough code. Sigh.

Fantastic way to measure accuracy, I'll have to remember that one...

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SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 3

Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀

Would you call yourselves programmers or developers?

I have often heard that programmers are more like code monkeys and developers have higher skills.

Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
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ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 4

Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀

<<cough>>

^{“Write the query the simplest way. If through testing it becomes clear that the performance is inadequate, consider alternative query forms.” - Gail Shaw}

For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden

Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286590 More actions · Answer 5

SQLRNNR (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀
Would you call yourselves programmers or developers?
I have often heard that programmers are more like code monkeys and developers have higher skills.

I tend to think of myself as knuckle dragger. 😉 To be honest I use those two terms interchangeably, sort of like employee and associate.

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Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286590 More actions · Answer 6

ChrisM@Work (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀
<<cough>>

Well shoot. I can't remember everybody. 😛 Of course I don't really know what everybody does for work but we certainly all deal with sql at some level or other.

_______________________________________________________________

Need help? Help us help you.

Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004406 More actions · Answer 7

SQLRNNR (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀
Would you call yourselves programmers or developers?
I have often heard that programmers are more like code monkeys and developers have higher skills.

I'm glad that someone else brought up that distinction because I make that same distinction in my mind but a lot of people don't have a similar distinction. With that in mind and giving Developers that call themselves "Programmers" the respect they deserve, I try to avoid using the word "programmer" in a derogatory sense and just go straight for "moroff". 😛 It covers both worlds, as well. :hehe:

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398909 More actions · Answer 8

Jeff Moden (3/28/2014)
SQLRNNR (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀
Would you call yourselves programmers or developers?
I have often heard that programmers are more like code monkeys and developers have higher skills.
I'm glad that someone else brought up that distinction because I make that same distinction in my mind but a lot of people don't have a similar distinction. With that in mind and giving Developers that call themselves "Programmers" the respect they deserve, I try to avoid using the word "programmer" in a derogatory sense and just go straight for "moroff". 😛

Don't forget to include the booth babes.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt

Author of:
SQL Server Execution Plans
SQL Server Query Performance Tuning

ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 9

Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
ChrisM@Work (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀
<<cough>>
Well shoot. I can't remember everybody. 😛 Of course I don't really know what everybody does for work but we certainly all deal with sql at some level or other.

OMG I'm a GUM :crying:

^{“Write the query the simplest way. If through testing it becomes clear that the performance is inadequate, consider alternative query forms.” - Gail Shaw}

For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden

Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286590 More actions · Answer 10

ChrisM@Work (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
ChrisM@Work (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀
<<cough>>
Well shoot. I can't remember everybody. 😛 Of course I don't really know what everybody does for work but we certainly all deal with sql at some level or other.
OMG I'm a GUM :crying:

What's a GUM???

_______________________________________________________________

Need help? Help us help you.

Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286590 More actions · Answer 11

Jeff Moden (3/28/2014)
SQLRNNR (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀
Would you call yourselves programmers or developers?
I have often heard that programmers are more like code monkeys and developers have higher skills.
I'm glad that someone else brought up that distinction because I make that same distinction in my mind but a lot of people don't have a similar distinction. With that in mind and giving Developers that call themselves "Programmers" the respect they deserve, I try to avoid using the word "programmer" in a derogatory sense and just go straight for "moroff". 😛 It covers both worlds, as well. :hehe:

I'm moroff and wear it with distinction and pride. It took a lot of work to get this far off. 😀

_______________________________________________________________

Need help? Help us help you.

Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 12

Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
ChrisM@Work (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
ChrisM@Work (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀
<<cough>>
Well shoot. I can't remember everybody. 😛 Of course I don't really know what everybody does for work but we certainly all deal with sql at some level or other.
OMG I'm a GUM :crying:
What's a GUM???

http://www.acronymfinder.com/Great-Unwashed-Masses-(GUM).html

^{“Write the query the simplest way. If through testing it becomes clear that the performance is inadequate, consider alternative query forms.” - Gail Shaw}

For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden

Sean Lange SSC Guru Points: 286590 More actions · Answer 13

ChrisM@Work (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
ChrisM@Work (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
ChrisM@Work (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀
<<cough>>
Well shoot. I can't remember everybody. 😛 Of course I don't really know what everybody does for work but we certainly all deal with sql at some level or other.
OMG I'm a GUM :crying:
What's a GUM???
http://www.acronymfinder.com/Great-Unwashed-Masses-(GUM).html

ROFL. Never heard of that site, could come in quite handy. I would certainly not suggest you are a GUM. Dang, see what I get for mentioning a couple of names. :ermm:

_______________________________________________________________

Need help? Help us help you.

Read the article at http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/ for best practices on asking questions.

Need to split a string? Try Jeff Modens splitter http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Tally+Table/72993/.

Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287026 More actions · Answer 14

Grant Fritchey (3/28/2014)
Jeff Moden (3/28/2014)
SQLRNNR (3/28/2014)
Sean Lange (3/28/2014)
dwain.c (3/28/2014)
Ville-Pekka Vahteala (3/27/2014)
Luis Cazares (3/27/2014)
How is it possible that someone writes a cursor instead of using SUM()?
I'm afraid that this database is full of these pieces of sh code and it's slower than a snail going backwards.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1555701.aspx
Based on what I have to deal daily answer is easily :-):-(
This kind of things happen when programmers write t-SQL.
Here, here! Let's keep all the programmers out of SQL!
What sayeth the SQLverse?
There are more programmers around here (including me) than you realize. Gail and Lowell, Jack Corbett...not sure who else I might be missing. 😀
Would you call yourselves programmers or developers?
I have often heard that programmers are more like code monkeys and developers have higher skills.
I'm glad that someone else brought up that distinction because I make that same distinction in my mind but a lot of people don't have a similar distinction. With that in mind and giving Developers that call themselves "Programmers" the respect they deserve, I try to avoid using the word "programmer" in a derogatory sense and just go straight for "moroff". 😛
Don't forget to include the booth babes.

Grant - You have booth babes??? :w00t:

Tally Tables - Performance Personified
String Splitting with True Performance
Best practices on how to ask questions

Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 15

Ed Wagner (3/28/2014)
Grant - You have booth babes??? :w00t:

Grant *is* the booth 'babe' 🙂

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass