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  • BWFC (3/6/2014)

    Actually if you go from the the Norfolk coast, which is pretty much as far east as you can get, to Land's End, it's about eight hours east to west. I think Top Gear did a challenge trying to drive it between dusk and dawn.

    Norfolk would involve a significant north-to-south component of the journey, though...Great Yarmouth, for instance, is at 52 degrees and 38 minutes north, whereas Land's End is almost exactly on 50 degrees. Margate is at 51Β° 23', so still further north but not by quite as much!

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    MysteryJimbo (3/6/2014)

    Great Britain (UK minus Northern Ireland) itself is about 8 hours east to west and about 16 hours north to south depending on your location and traffic. Telford being fairly central is advantageous.

    Well, it's a *bit* less than that...according to Bing maps (other mapping services are available) a journey from Margate in Kent to Land's End (which is about as far east and west as you can travel) would take a smidge under 7 hours, and one from Portsmouth to John'O'Groats (south to north) would be 13. Land's End to John'O'Groats would be 15 hours, and that's about as far as you can possibly drive in a single journey on the UK mainland.

    Actually if you go from the the Norfolk coast, which is pretty much as far east as you can get, to Land's End, it's about eight hours east to west. I think Top Gear did a challenge trying to drive it between dusk and dawn.

    My estimate was Holyhead to Great Yarmouth. As I know Wales and the midlands quite well I estimated based on experience i.e. not driving at night on a Sunday like the estimates given by google/bing maps.

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    Koen Verbeeck (3/5/2014)

    Pfff, than you have never been in Belgium before πŸ˜€

    If we wouldn't be having the most traffic jam congested cities in the world, you could drive through the whole country in a couple of hours.

    You can drive through the whole country in a couple of hours. I've done it (by avoiding cities). Germany to France.

    I meant from west to east. You'd have to pass either Antwerp or Brussels. Either way, you're screwed πŸ™‚

    And you can go from Germany to France without passing Belgium as well πŸ™‚

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    Koen Verbeeck (3/5/2014)

    Pfff, than you have never been in Belgium before πŸ˜€

    If we wouldn't be having the most traffic jam congested cities in the world, you could drive through the whole country in a couple of hours.

    You can drive through the whole country in a couple of hours. I've done it (by avoiding cities). Germany to France.

    I meant from west to east. You'd have to pass either Antwerp or Brussels. Either way, you're screwed πŸ™‚

    And you can go from Germany to France without passing Belgium as well πŸ™‚

    I was on my motorbike and it was a Sunday :-).

    I did Innsbruck to Dover in 14 hours that day.

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    Koen Verbeeck (3/5/2014)

    Pfff, than you have never been in Belgium before πŸ˜€

    If we wouldn't be having the most traffic jam congested cities in the world, you could drive through the whole country in a couple of hours.

    You can drive through the whole country in a couple of hours. I've done it (by avoiding cities). Germany to France.

    I meant from west to east. You'd have to pass either Antwerp or Brussels. Either way, you're screwed πŸ™‚

    And you can go from Germany to France without passing Belgium as well πŸ™‚

    I was on my motorbike and it was a Sunday :-).

    I did Innsbruck to Dover in 14 hours that day.

    I've driven 1/2 way across the US a couple of times. It's always taken about 2 days, stopping for maybe 4 hours for a little sleep. I'd call it about 36 hours give or take from Tulsa to New London, CT. That's driving.

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  • Grant Fritchey (3/6/2014)

    I've driven 1/2 way across the US a couple of times. It's always taken about 2 days, stopping for maybe 4 hours for a little sleep. I'd call it about 36 hours give or take from Tulsa to New London, CT. That's driving.

    Our friend Bing puts that one at 21.5 hours, so if the ratio between real world and Bing holds up in the case of the UK, I hereby withdraw any objection to the 8 hour by 16 hour estimate earlier. πŸ™‚

  • I will be doing Norwich, Norfolk to near Balmoral on a Sunday - estimate is 9 hours. John O'Groats is a further 3. from there. Not allowing for traffic etc. Then I'll be winding my way down to Exeter, via a couple of places for SQL Saturday. Not sure yet whether I'm heading back to Norwich after SQL Sat or the considerably shorter distance to Maidenhead for work the next day. Depends on renewal or not.

    Could be an interesting week off.

    Rodders...

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    Koen Verbeeck (3/5/2014)

    Pfff, than you have never been in Belgium before πŸ˜€

    If we wouldn't be having the most traffic jam congested cities in the world, you could drive through the whole country in a couple of hours.

    You can drive through the whole country in a couple of hours. I've done it (by avoiding cities). Germany to France.

    I meant from west to east. You'd have to pass either Antwerp or Brussels. Either way, you're screwed πŸ™‚

    And you can go from Germany to France without passing Belgium as well πŸ™‚

    I was on my motorbike and it was a Sunday :-).

    I did Innsbruck to Dover in 14 hours that day.

    I've driven 1/2 way across the US a couple of times. It's always taken about 2 days, stopping for maybe 4 hours for a little sleep. I'd call it about 36 hours give or take from Tulsa to New London, CT. That's driving.

    Johannesburg to Cape Town can be done in around 16 hours, though it's far smarter to stop over somewhere in the Free State and do it in two 8 hour chunks .

    Beit Bridge (Northern border) to Johannesburg is 6 hours, So driving from the northern(ish) point of SA to the most southern is 22-24 hours driving time, excluding delays crossing JHB and entering CT and excluding stops. That's a diagonal across the country though, NE-SW

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  • Grant Fritchey (3/6/2014)


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    Koen Verbeeck (3/5/2014)

    Pfff, than you have never been in Belgium before πŸ˜€

    If we wouldn't be having the most traffic jam congested cities in the world, you could drive through the whole country in a couple of hours.

    You can drive through the whole country in a couple of hours. I've done it (by avoiding cities). Germany to France.

    I meant from west to east. You'd have to pass either Antwerp or Brussels. Either way, you're screwed πŸ™‚

    And you can go from Germany to France without passing Belgium as well πŸ™‚

    I was on my motorbike and it was a Sunday :-).

    I did Innsbruck to Dover in 14 hours that day.

    I've driven 1/2 way across the US a couple of times. It's always taken about 2 days, stopping for maybe 4 hours for a little sleep. I'd call it about 36 hours give or take from Tulsa to New London, CT. That's driving.

    "Driving" in the US doesn't count. Automatics.....cruise control...straight(ish) roads... πŸ™‚

    I'd just call that amount of driving boring. When I drove my car from the midlands,UK to Malta last year it took me about 36 hours and took concentration. Especially through Italy and Sicily.

    14 hours on a bike, that takes stamina. πŸ˜‰

  • Are you working in Maidenhead, Rod?

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  • MysteryJimbo (3/6/2014)


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    Koen Verbeeck (3/5/2014)

    Pfff, than you have never been in Belgium before πŸ˜€

    If we wouldn't be having the most traffic jam congested cities in the world, you could drive through the whole country in a couple of hours.

    You can drive through the whole country in a couple of hours. I've done it (by avoiding cities). Germany to France.

    I meant from west to east. You'd have to pass either Antwerp or Brussels. Either way, you're screwed πŸ™‚

    And you can go from Germany to France without passing Belgium as well πŸ™‚

    I was on my motorbike and it was a Sunday :-).

    I did Innsbruck to Dover in 14 hours that day.

    I've driven 1/2 way across the US a couple of times. It's always taken about 2 days, stopping for maybe 4 hours for a little sleep. I'd call it about 36 hours give or take from Tulsa to New London, CT. That's driving.

    "Driving" in the US doesn't count. Automatics.....cruise control...straight(ish) roads... πŸ™‚

    I'd just call that amount of driving boring. When I drove my car from the midlands,UK to Malta last year it took me about 36 hours and took concentration. Especially through Italy and Sicily.

    14 hours on a bike, that takes stamina. πŸ˜‰

    I must not live in the US - 5 speed and no cruise control. πŸ˜€

    And some roads - like Blue Ridge Parkway - don't seem very straight.

    Traffic is a big factor on some drives.

    I know when I have to go through Chicago, I do my best to try and miss morning and evening rush hour.

    Almost drove to Las Vegas recently, but thinking about the snow and the mountains, decided to fly.

    Ironically, roads getting to the mountains would have been worse.

    And no Bing or Google takes in roads closed for weather.

    36 hours with only 4 hours stopping - sounds like the old Cannonball Run.

  • MysteryJimbo (3/6/2014)


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    Koen Verbeeck (3/5/2014)

    Pfff, than you have never been in Belgium before πŸ˜€

    If we wouldn't be having the most traffic jam congested cities in the world, you could drive through the whole country in a couple of hours.

    You can drive through the whole country in a couple of hours. I've done it (by avoiding cities). Germany to France.

    I meant from west to east. You'd have to pass either Antwerp or Brussels. Either way, you're screwed πŸ™‚

    And you can go from Germany to France without passing Belgium as well πŸ™‚

    I was on my motorbike and it was a Sunday :-).

    I did Innsbruck to Dover in 14 hours that day.

    I've driven 1/2 way across the US a couple of times. It's always taken about 2 days, stopping for maybe 4 hours for a little sleep. I'd call it about 36 hours give or take from Tulsa to New London, CT. That's driving.

    "Driving" in the US doesn't count. Automatics.....cruise control...straight(ish) roads... πŸ™‚

    I'd just call that amount of driving boring. When I drove my car from the midlands,UK to Malta last year it took me about 36 hours and took concentration. Especially through Italy and Sicily.

    14 hours on a bike, that takes stamina. πŸ˜‰

    If you've ever driven in the Great Smokey Mountains or especially the Rocky Mountains, it is absolutely beautiful, but it is anything but straight and the Rockies includes some serious elevation changes. The automatic works against you and you cannot use cruise. They even have signs saying to downshift instead of wearing out your brakes. Granted, most of the roads here are pretty straight and it can get boring when you're going on long trips, but there's also such a diversity of climates. For example, a client in Texas was saying it was pretty cold at 60 F last week while we in Michigan were hoping to get up to 0 F. Minnesota is a whole other story of cold.

  • ChrisM@Work (3/6/2014)


    Are you working in Maidenhead, Rod?

    Chris,

    Work in Bracknell, stay near Bray in Maidenhead at the moment.

    Well for the rest of this week and next week, anyhow - not counting chickens yet :w00t:

    Rodders...

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    ChrisM@Work (3/6/2014)


    Are you working in Maidenhead, Rod?

    Chris,

    Work in Bracknell, stay near Bray in Maidenhead at the moment.

    Rodders...

    Not much of a hike then. Bray, home of the Fat Duck. I didn't know Bray was so close to Maidenhead until one lunchtime coming out of the little Sainsbury's opposite the station, I almost walked into HB. Snail porridge, anyone?

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  • Ed Wagner (3/6/2014)If you've ever driven in the Great Smokey Mountains or especially the Rocky Mountains, it is absolutely beautiful, but it is anything but straight and the Rockies includes some serious elevation changes. The automatic works against you and you cannot use cruise. They even have signs saying to downshift instead of wearing out your brakes. Granted, most of the roads here are pretty straight and it can get boring when you're going on long trips, but there's also such a diversity of climates. For example, a client in Texas was saying it was pretty cold at 60 F last week while we in Michigan were hoping to get up to 0 F. Minnesota is a whole other story of cold.

    I didn't mean to imply all the roads were straight. Just a large majority. πŸ™‚

    On those particular drives I had a good mix of climates going through the French or Austrian Alps (Innsbruck being pretty famous for skiing) and Italian country side. Malta was something different altogether with its humid Mediterranean island climate with a touch of African thrown in for good measure.

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