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Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398882 More actions · Answer 1

ChrisM@Work (1/10/2014)
Grant Fritchey (1/10/2014)
Jeff Moden (1/8/2014)
rodjkidd (1/8/2014)
Weather update, as Grant has discovered it gets dark here very quickly, that and the rain and wind seems to be the story of the week in not so sunny Bracknell.
Grant must be slackin'... normally, he can fix a rainy day. 🙂
Too busy, and there are pubs.
If the weather were any nicer I'd suggest you head west to Swindon tomorrow to loose a few off. As it is, even our champion Nige will struggle with 140#. Maybe next time.

You have to stop teasing me. I'm flying out tomorrow.

Damn, damn, damn, damn.

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David Burrows SSC Guru Points: 65142 More actions · Answer 2

Grant Fritchey (1/10/2014)
ChrisM@Work (1/10/2014)
Grant Fritchey (1/10/2014)
Jeff Moden (1/8/2014)
rodjkidd (1/8/2014)
Weather update, as Grant has discovered it gets dark here very quickly, that and the rain and wind seems to be the story of the week in not so sunny Bracknell.
Grant must be slackin'... normally, he can fix a rainy day. 🙂
Too busy, and there are pubs.
If the weather were any nicer I'd suggest you head west to Swindon tomorrow to loose a few off. As it is, even our champion Nige will struggle with 140#. Maybe next time.
You have to stop teasing me. I'm flying out tomorrow.
Damn, damn, damn, damn.

Damn shame as well, if you were near Swindon we could of met up :crying:

Far away is close at hand in the images of elsewhere.
Anon.

ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 3

David Burrows (1/10/2014)
Grant Fritchey (1/10/2014)
ChrisM@Work (1/10/2014)
Grant Fritchey (1/10/2014)
Jeff Moden (1/8/2014)
rodjkidd (1/8/2014)
Weather update, as Grant has discovered it gets dark here very quickly, that and the rain and wind seems to be the story of the week in not so sunny Bracknell.
Grant must be slackin'... normally, he can fix a rainy day. 🙂
Too busy, and there are pubs.
If the weather were any nicer I'd suggest you head west to Swindon tomorrow to loose a few off. As it is, even our champion Nige will struggle with 140#. Maybe next time.
You have to stop teasing me. I'm flying out tomorrow.
Damn, damn, damn, damn.
Damn shame as well, if you were near Swindon we could of met up :crying:

You'll need to find a decent pub in Swindon first 😉

^{“Write the query the simplest way. If through testing it becomes clear that the performance is inadequate, consider alternative query forms.” - Gail Shaw}

For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden

Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 4

Yay, a gaggle of new graduates at the office (new employees, busy with our basic training course) and one near me seems to think that higher volume makes her opinion more correct. 🙁

Not even in my team, so I can't have words with them.

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287026 More actions · Answer 5

GilaMonster (1/10/2014)
Yay, a gaggle of new graduates at the office (new employees, busy with our basic training course) and one near me seems to think that higher volume makes her opinion more correct. 🙁
Not even in my team, so I can't have words with them.

I've met people like that. Eventually, she should figure out that if things are quieter all around her, she should lower her own volume. If she doesn't get it, I don't see any problem with having words with her, but you can only do it as a co-worker, not as a boss. It may be that she doesn't even realize that she's loud.

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 6

Ed Wagner (1/10/2014)
I've met people like that. Eventually, she should figure out that if things are quieter all around her, she should lower her own volume. If she doesn't get it, I don't see any problem with having words with her, but you can only do it as a co-worker, not as a boss. It may be that she doesn't even realize that she's loud.

It's not that she's particularly loud in general, it's that in discussions with the other grads (they're doing a business analysis exercise today), she's talking over the others in her 'team' and increasing volume when she disagrees with one of the others.

I'm guilty of doing it in the past. I try not to any longer. (Emphasis 'try' 🙂 )

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

Greg Edwards-268690 SSC-Insane Points: 20680 More actions · Answer 7

Ed Wagner (1/10/2014)
GilaMonster (1/10/2014)
Yay, a gaggle of new graduates at the office (new employees, busy with our basic training course) and one near me seems to think that higher volume makes her opinion more correct. 🙁
Not even in my team, so I can't have words with them.
I've met people like that. Eventually, she should figure out that if things are quieter all around her, she should lower her own volume. If she doesn't get it, I don't see any problem with having words with her, but you can only do it as a co-worker, not as a boss. It may be that she doesn't even realize that she's loud.

Interesting when you get 2 like that in a room, and they both are wrong.

Hopefully she's a quick learner.

Neil Burton SSC-Insane Points: 22999 More actions · Answer 8

Greg Edwards-268690 (1/10/2014)
Ed Wagner (1/10/2014)
GilaMonster (1/10/2014)
Yay, a gaggle of new graduates at the office (new employees, busy with our basic training course) and one near me seems to think that higher volume makes her opinion more correct. 🙁
Not even in my team, so I can't have words with them.
I've met people like that. Eventually, she should figure out that if things are quieter all around her, she should lower her own volume. If she doesn't get it, I don't see any problem with having words with her, but you can only do it as a co-worker, not as a boss. It may be that she doesn't even realize that she's loud.
Interesting when you get 2 like that in a room, and they both are wrong.
Hopefully she's a quick learner.

There is a philosophical question, often kicked around our office, about what happens when two people who know everything have an argument.

On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
—Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher

How to post a question to get the most help http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537

Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287026 More actions · Answer 9

I like to think I've gotten better at both of these items with age. Knowing everything and talking over other people is something that many people struggle with at one point or another during their lives. With wisdom comes patience and with knowledge comes humility.

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Stuart Davies SSCoach Points: 19505 More actions · Answer 10

ChrisM@Work (1/10/2014)
David Burrows (1/10/2014)
Grant Fritchey (1/10/2014)
ChrisM@Work (1/10/2014)
Grant Fritchey (1/10/2014)
Jeff Moden (1/8/2014)
rodjkidd (1/8/2014)
Weather update, as Grant has discovered it gets dark here very quickly, that and the rain and wind seems to be the story of the week in not so sunny Bracknell.
Grant must be slackin'... normally, he can fix a rainy day. 🙂
Too busy, and there are pubs.
If the weather were any nicer I'd suggest you head west to Swindon tomorrow to loose a few off. As it is, even our champion Nige will struggle with 140#. Maybe next time.
You have to stop teasing me. I'm flying out tomorrow.
Damn, damn, damn, damn.
Damn shame as well, if you were near Swindon we could of met up :crying:
You'll need to find a decent pub in Swindon first 😉

Ture - but if you headed to Bassett or Wanborough, it wouldn't be as bad

-------------------------------Posting Data Etiquette - Jeff Moden [/url]Smart way to ask a question
There are naive questions, tedious questions, ill-phrased questions, questions put after inadequate self-criticism. But every question is a cry to understand (the world). There is no such thing as a dumb question. ― Carl Sagan
I would never join a club that would allow me as a member - Groucho Marx

Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 11

BWFC (1/10/2014)
There is a philosophical question, often kicked around our office, about what happens when two people who know everything have an argument.

I'm sure I've seen that on gaming forums. 10+ page arguments that degrade into insults and name calling.

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 12

Stuart Davies (1/10/2014)
ChrisM@Work (1/10/2014)
David Burrows (1/10/2014)
Grant Fritchey (1/10/2014)
ChrisM@Work (1/10/2014)
Grant Fritchey (1/10/2014)
Jeff Moden (1/8/2014)
rodjkidd (1/8/2014)
Weather update, as Grant has discovered it gets dark here very quickly, that and the rain and wind seems to be the story of the week in not so sunny Bracknell.
Grant must be slackin'... normally, he can fix a rainy day. 🙂
Too busy, and there are pubs.
If the weather were any nicer I'd suggest you head west to Swindon tomorrow to loose a few off. As it is, even our champion Nige will struggle with 140#. Maybe next time.
You have to stop teasing me. I'm flying out tomorrow.
Damn, damn, damn, damn.
Damn shame as well, if you were near Swindon we could of met up :crying:
You'll need to find a decent pub in Swindon first 😉
Ture - but if you headed to Bassett or Wanborough, it wouldn't be as bad

Bassett's way nicer than Swindon and has two or three great little pubs. I can't forget what they're called, I've never left Bassett in a straight line.

^{“Write the query the simplest way. If through testing it becomes clear that the performance is inadequate, consider alternative query forms.” - Gail Shaw}

For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden

Neil Burton SSC-Insane Points: 22999 More actions · Answer 13

GilaMonster (1/10/2014)
BWFC (1/10/2014)
There is a philosophical question, often kicked around our office, about what happens when two people who know everything have an argument.
I'm sure I've seen that on gaming forums. 10+ page arguments that degrade into insults and name calling.

It's never got as bad as outright insults, more muttering under breath, glaring across desks and, in extreme cases, being struck off the brewing-up-for list.

On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
—Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher

How to post a question to get the most help http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004329 More actions · Answer 14

BWFC (1/10/2014)
There is a philosophical question, often kicked around our office, about what happens when two people who know everything have an argument.

It's ironic... it they argue like that, then they don't actually know everything because they'd know how to avoid such non-productive and annoying events. 😉 Typically, one person is a ring knocker that can't see the light of day but still "knows it all" and the other person is actually someone who's trying to stick to the facts and trying to prevent the rink knocker's ideas from propagating as an in-house "best practice". I believe Gail refers to such "best practices" as "howlers". 🙂

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 15

Jeff Moden (1/10/2014)
I believe Gail refers to such "best practices" as "howlers". 🙂

Not me. 'Howlers' was the title for a series of Simple-Talk articles.

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass