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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 1

Thursday at Summit is going to be sooo funny. Just saying...

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

TomThomson SSC Guru Points: 104773 More actions · Answer 2

GilaMonster (9/27/2013)
Thursday at Summit is going to be sooo funny. Just saying...

I hope you'll not leave us wondering ...

Tom

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004363 More actions · Answer 3

Speaking of "Are the posted questions getting worse"?... I was going through some old responses to some posts and I came across this one that no one responded to...

After googling, i have learnt to open a new clr stored procedure project to convert rtf format. But as i told, i have no knowledge..So could you please guide me from here?

First, I congratulate everyone for not responding to that post because even I have my limits and had to make a conscious effort to not respond to it with less than subtle hints about using tools they don't know anything about and maybe a rant about having other people do their job for them.

The economy must be picking up because I'm seeing more and more "I have no knowledge {of SQL}" types of posts across the board. Apparently, more and more people are getting themselves hired with "no knowledge". I blame the interviewers for this type of thing.

Have you folks observed the same kind of thing over the last month or so or is it just me?

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 4

Here things are still getting worse (mining problems and government blunderings not helping), so I'm seeing less demand for competant (expensive) people and more 'oh, you've done a university course on databases, you're the new DBA/database developer' :angry:

Went to one interview a few weeks back (before the good one). Job was a reasonable fit, DBA/developer (though listed as DBA), 5 years experience, university, MS certs, etc. They were offering R20000 CTC per month (I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to covert that)

At least it was a short interview.

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442467 More actions · Answer 5

Well, my oldest daughter is in the hospital. She is having her second baby boy!!

Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736270 More actions · Answer 6

Lynn Pettis (9/28/2013)
Well, my oldest daughter is in the hospital. She is having her second baby boy!!

Congrats, Grandpa ^ 2

Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 7

Jeff Moden (9/27/2013)
Speaking of "Are the posted questions getting worse"?... I was going through some old responses to some posts and I came across this one that no one responded to...
After googling, i have learnt to open a new clr stored procedure project to convert rtf format. But as i told, i have no knowledge..So could you please guide me from here?
First, I congratulate everyone for not responding to that post because even I have my limits and had to make a conscious effort to not respond to it with less than subtle hints about using tools they don't know anything about and maybe a rant about having other people do their job for them.
The economy must be picking up because I'm seeing more and more "I have no knowledge {of SQL}" types of posts across the board. Apparently, more and more people are getting themselves hired with "no knowledge". I blame the interviewers for this type of thing.
Have you folks observed the same kind of thing over the last month or so or is it just me?

Have you seen the myriad of dynamic SQL related questions the last few days?

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004363 More actions · Answer 8

GilaMonster (9/28/2013)
Here things are still getting worse (mining problems and government blunderings not helping), so I'm seeing less demand for competant (expensive) people and more 'oh, you've done a university course on databases, you're the new DBA/database developer' :angry:
Went to one interview a few weeks back (before the good one). Job was a reasonable fit, DBA/developer (though listed as DBA), 5 years experience, university, MS certs, etc. They were offering R20000 CTC per month (I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to covert that)
At least it was a short interview.

Ah... that might explain it. Maybe the economy is actually getting much worse and the employers know it, so they're offering low pay or, shifting gears, getting in-house front-end developers with little or no T-SQL experience to take the job.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004363 More actions · Answer 9

GilaMonster (9/28/2013)
Jeff Moden (9/27/2013)
Speaking of "Are the posted questions getting worse"?... I was going through some old responses to some posts and I came across this one that no one responded to...
After googling, i have learnt to open a new clr stored procedure project to convert rtf format. But as i told, i have no knowledge..So could you please guide me from here?
First, I congratulate everyone for not responding to that post because even I have my limits and had to make a conscious effort to not respond to it with less than subtle hints about using tools they don't know anything about and maybe a rant about having other people do their job for them.
The economy must be picking up because I'm seeing more and more "I have no knowledge {of SQL}" types of posts across the board. Apparently, more and more people are getting themselves hired with "no knowledge". I blame the interviewers for this type of thing.
Have you folks observed the same kind of thing over the last month or so or is it just me?
Have you seen the myriad of dynamic SQL related questions the last few days?

Heh... between that and TempDB questions (and some of the answers, apparently... 50MB) by people who have "no knowledge", it's been a real hoot.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442467 More actions · Answer 10

I am officially a grandfather, again. Kassondra gave birth to her second son, Branson James on 9/28 @ 6:19 PM MDT!

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004363 More actions · Answer 11

Congrats to you both, Lynn!

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Greg Edwards-268690 SSC-Insane Points: 20680 More actions · Answer 12

Lynn Pettis (9/29/2013)
I am officially a grandfather, again. Kassondra gave birth to her second son, Branson James on 9/28 @ 6:19 PM MDT!

Congrats and many wonderful years for everyone!

Luis Cazares SSC Guru Points: 183706 More actions · Answer 13

Lynn Pettis (9/29/2013)
I am officially a grandfather, again. Kassondra gave birth to her second son, Branson James on 9/28 @ 6:19 PM MDT!

Congratulations Lynn. Best wishes for the newborn and all your family.

Luis C.
General Disclaimer:
Are you seriously taking the advice and code from someone from the internet without testing it? Do you at least understand it? Or can it easily kill your server?

How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help: Option 1 / Option 2

Koen Verbeeck SSC Guru Points: 259105 More actions · Answer 14

Lynn Pettis (9/29/2013)
I am officially a grandfather, again. Kassondra gave birth to her second son, Branson James on 9/28 @ 6:19 PM MDT!

Congrats!

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004363 More actions · Answer 15

I'm am totally afraid for this person...

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1499747-391-1.aspx

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)