Are the posted questions getting worse?
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Grant Fritchey (5/23/2013)
GilaMonster (5/22/2013)
Grant Fritchey (5/22/2013)
GilaMonster (5/22/2013)
Oh look... "I don't think that's right... " again. Anyone got a baseball bat? Or a punching bag?Will an Arkansas tire thumper work?
No idea what one of those is, but I like the idea.
What, Google no workie?
Fraid not. Exceeded permissible quota of pigeons for the day. Additional seed ordered.
Gail Shaw
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GilaMonster (5/22/2013)
Evil Kraig F (5/22/2013)
GilaMonster (5/22/2013)
Oh look... "I don't think that's right... " again. Anyone got a baseball bat? Or a punching bag?Don't you own a katana?
Yes, but it'll damage the punching bag. The offending person is a little out of my reach.
The inference being that you wouldn't care so much about damage to the person? :hehe:
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jcrawf02 (5/23/2013)
GilaMonster (5/22/2013)
Evil Kraig F (5/22/2013)
GilaMonster (5/22/2013)
Oh look... "I don't think that's right... " again. Anyone got a baseball bat? Or a punching bag?Don't you own a katana?
Yes, but it'll damage the punching bag. The offending person is a little out of my reach.
The inference being that you wouldn't care so much about damage to the person? :hehe:
:Whistling:
Gail Shaw
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Not that any of you care, but it's the last day of school.
I think I may be more happy than the kids to sleep in tomorrow.
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor (5/23/2013)
Not that any of you care, but it's the last day of school.I care. It means less buses in my way driving home from work. @=)
And more kids playing in the neighborhood streets, oblivious to traffic. @=(
EDIT: Congratulations on surviving the school year and sleep well tomorrow morn, my friend. Except, don't you have horses to feed at the crack of dawn?
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor (5/23/2013)
Not that any of you care, but it's the last day of school.I think I may be more happy than the kids to sleep in tomorrow.
Not for everyone. My daughter still has school tomorrow, including a couple of finals still to take.
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GilaMonster (5/23/2013)
jcrawf02 (5/23/2013)
GilaMonster (5/22/2013)
Evil Kraig F (5/22/2013)
GilaMonster (5/22/2013)
Oh look... "I don't think that's right... " again. Anyone got a baseball bat? Or a punching bag?Don't you own a katana?
Yes, but it'll damage the punching bag. The offending person is a little out of my reach.
The inference being that you wouldn't care so much about damage to the person? :hehe:
:Whistling:
Don't you own a bokken?
And no... i'm not referring to the South African rugby team.
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The Dixie Flatline (5/23/2013)
Don't you own a bokken?Yes, they also have the tendency to damage punching bags. Edge is too narrow to use on a bag. Same with the jo.
And no... i'm not referring to the South African rugby team.
They're the Bokke...
Gail Shaw
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I have a certain fondness for doing solutions in TSQL, or at least be centered around TSQL, regardless of whether it's the right tool for the job or not.
I just made a proof of concept CLR so that I could read a pop3 mailbox and return the results as an ITVF;
It works, and depending on my crappy mailserver's response times, i get , say the "latest" 25 emails in anywhere from 17 seconds to over two minutes.
If I was to slap out an article on it, do you think the articles focus should be on the tips and tricks of getting it to work(deep diving into the CLR code,external_access,trustworthy, why the CLR looks the way it does and requires fill functions/table definitions etc), or more on assuming they just install the assemblies, and how it could be used via TSQL?
I figure it might help the guys that like to cut boards with hammers like me, but I'm thinking the target audience is really people who want to run a script to install, and read their email box, and who cares what's under the covers.
Lowell
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Lowell (5/23/2013)
I have a certain fondness for doing solutions in TSQL, or at least be centered around TSQL, regardless of whether it's the right tool for the job or not.
I just made a proof of concept CLR so that I could read a pop3 mailbox and return the results as an ITVF;
It works, and depending on my crappy mailserver's response times, i get , say the "latest" 25 emails in anywhere from 17 seconds to over two minutes.
If I was to slap out an article on it, do you think the articles focus should be on the tips and tricks of getting it to work(deep diving into the CLR code,external_access,trustworthy, why the CLR looks the way it does and requires fill functions/table definitions etc), or more on assuming they just install the assemblies, and how it could be used via TSQL?
I figure it might help the guys that like to cut boards with hammers like me, but I'm thinking the target audience is really people who want to run a script to install, and read their email box, and who cares what's under the covers.
I would love to read about the nitty gritty for this. Sounds like an article chock full of learning potential. Of course you would still need to have some details about how it could be used. Sounds like a great read to me!!!
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Lowell (5/23/2013)
I have a certain fondness for doing solutions in TSQL, or at least be centered around TSQL, regardless of whether it's the right tool for the job or not.
I just made a proof of concept CLR so that I could read a pop3 mailbox and return the results as an ITVF;
It works, and depending on my crappy mailserver's response times, i get , say the "latest" 25 emails in anywhere from 17 seconds to over two minutes.
If I was to slap out an article on it, do you think the articles focus should be on the tips and tricks of getting it to work(deep diving into the CLR code,external_access,trustworthy, why the CLR looks the way it does and requires fill functions/table definitions etc), or more on assuming they just install the assemblies, and how it could be used via TSQL?
I figure it might help the guys that like to cut boards with hammers like me, but I'm thinking the target audience is really people who want to run a script to install, and read their email box, and who cares what's under the covers.
Sounds like two articles to me. A deep dive article for those who want to know what is under the covers and a how to for those who just want to know how to use it.
I'd read both.
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uh.... where can I get one of those hammers? I use the "everything looks like a nail" quote often and that is an awesome visual. If there isn't a retail outlet, I'm so looking for a local shop that can engrave it for me.... and a few for my friends.... oohhh.... user group SWAG? I like it. Hope it's cheap.
Chad
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Lynn Pettis (5/22/2013)
Well, then you will be interested to hear that I haven't heard all the complaints about Windows 8 either. Unfortunately, none of your posts ever really enlightened me on the supposed problems. Plus, I tend to ignore the hype choosing instead to make my own decisions on whether or not a product is good or bad as I too feel that all we usually hear are the very vocal minority. Most people who like a product tend not to get vocal about it.Actually I did spend considerable time reading comments on Windows 8. I didn't read all the anti-Windows 8 comments on every website that had any, of course, because I can't read Japanese or Chinese or Greek or in fact most other languages and because I couldn't fit 48 hours of reading in every day, but I read a lot. As I pointed out before, if I hadn't seen lots of complaints I wouldn't have wondered what all the fuss was about. I saw enough complaints that I bought this machine expecting to have 4 or 5 days of hell because with so many anti comments there really must be something wrong and not trivially fixable for little effort with Windows 8, and worrying about possibly having to buy and install Windows 7. I should have paid more attention to the fact that most of the anti comments amounted to "I don't like it, it's terrible" and hardly any gave any technical description of what people thought was wrong.
But as I said, from switching it on to being able to use it for most things without having to think took about 10 minutes. That was a very pleasant surprise.
I had some hassle with installing outlook on top of office H&S, which was an office problem not a windows 8 problem. I've been told that a similar problem existed on Windows 7.
I hate the fact that IE 10 rams the acrobat reader plugin down my throat, continuing to use it even if I disable the Adobe addins, because I hate reader and because I don't think MS should be forcing me to use that stuff when alternatives that I prefer are readily available; but that's an IE issue (and I can probably solve it with a little jiggery-pokery) not a Windows 8 issue. Neither do I like the absence of a browser UI in my preferred language.
Some keyboard shortcuts are different from what I used on XP; not an issue as I can change them if I want to (perhaps the ones I used on XP were ones that I had configured many years ago, I do recall changing some of the shortcuts a long time ago but I don't know whether that accounts for all the differences or not).
Of course I only use it for email, word and excel, web access, other internet access, pictures and picture editing, videos and video editing, music and music editing, Skype, book reading, SQL Server, programming in a couple of other languages, encryption and decryption, key and password generation and storage, cloud access, and backup store for my Kindle and my cameras - it's not a member of a domain, there are no heavy duty program development tools or project management tools, I don't as far as I know use client-side WPF, and it's not running a website; so there may be problems in areas that my usage doesn't cover.
One thing I learned in a Marketing class many years ago. If someone has a good experience with a product or company they tell 3 people. On the other hand, if you have had a bad experience with a product or company you tell 11 people. You are much more likely to hear about bad experiences than good.
I think the advent of social networking websites and other sites which allow vast quantities of comments has changed that. You still tend to see much more about bad things that about good, but the numbers are higher now, since one comment on a popular article at a site like el reg[/url] will be seen by far more than 3 or 11 people, and the ratio of bad comments to good comments seems to be usually a lot more than 4 to 1 - but not always: for example the number of pro-Apple fanatics who will swear the recent antenna design idiocy didn't happen is remarkable, and of course the number of anti-Apple fanatics who will swear anything coming out of Cupertino is pure rubbish is pretty amazing too, so in discussion of any Apple product the good and bad comments tend to be about equal both in number and in vacuity (not all the comments on either side are vacuous - just almost all of them), and of course there are other topics where the same sort of thing happens.
I reckoned people here would have seen all the anti-Windows 8 hype and it would be useful to some of them to hear that I didn't find the problems I anticipated. But I seem to have started a storm. I didn't intent to annoy Patrick with the dinosaur comment - when I posted that message I had no idea that Patrick existed (at least I don't recall seeing any of his posts either here or elsewhere) and no idea that he was one of those who had commented on the windows 8 issues, so it would have been rather difficult for me to have such an intention. I didn't even say anyone was a dinosaur - just that I suspected the cause of the hype was a bunch of old dinosaurs who were against all change. Nor that I suspected everyone who disliked Windows 8 was one, because like every OS ever shipped it will have its faults, and some people will have been sensibly pointing at those rather than indulging in hyping the idea that Windows 8 is an unusable disaster.
Tom
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Chad Crawford (5/23/2013)
uh.... where can I get one of those hammers? I use the "everything looks like a nail" quote often and that is an awesome visual. If there isn't a retail outlet, I'm so looking for a local shop that can engrave it for me.... and a few for my friends.... oohhh.... user group SWAG? I like it. Hope it's cheap.Chad
I want one too! Would nicely go with the builder's hard hat on the edge of my cubicle "wall" 🙂
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