October 11, 2012 at 9:57 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (10/11/2012)
SQLRNNR (10/10/2012)
He is also the type that thinks you are unprofessional if you crack a joke during a presentation. Then he rips you apart on the speaker survey for that joke.
I haven't gotten too many of these, but every once in awhile someone thinks I'm not serious enough.
I use the 5% rule. Toss the top 5% of complaints and of praise. Look for everything in between on evals.
That is a very good rule of thumb.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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October 11, 2012 at 10:06 am
SQLRNNR (10/10/2012)
He is also the type that thinks you are unprofessional if you crack a joke during a presentation. Then he rips you apart on the speaker survey for that joke.
Nah, I'm the sort of guy that will start repeating the joke...
At least, if I get the joke...
π
October 11, 2012 at 10:09 am
jasona.work (10/11/2012)
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He is also the type that thinks you are unprofessional if you crack a joke during a presentation. Then he rips you apart on the speaker survey for that joke.Nah, I'm the sort of guy that will start repeating the joke...
At least, if I get the joke...
π
LOL
I meant for that comment to be towards Wayne.:-D
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October 11, 2012 at 10:36 am
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He is also the type that thinks you are unprofessional if you crack a joke during a presentation. Then he rips you apart on the speaker survey for that joke.Nah, I'm the sort of guy that will start repeating the joke...
At least, if I get the joke...
π
LOL
I meant for that comment to be towards Wayne.:-D
WHAT!!! I resemble resent that! I wouldn't do that for a joke...
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October 11, 2012 at 10:38 am
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jasona.work (10/11/2012)
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He is also the type that thinks you are unprofessional if you crack a joke during a presentation. Then he rips you apart on the speaker survey for that joke.Nah, I'm the sort of guy that will start repeating the joke...
At least, if I get the joke...
π
LOL
I meant for that comment to be towards Wayne.:-D
WHAT!!! I
resembleresent that! I wouldn't do that for a joke...
Come to think of it - that would be funny.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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October 11, 2012 at 4:49 pm
jcrawf02 (10/11/2012)
Fal (10/11/2012)
Remember you are what you eat. That's how you get Cauliflower Ears. :hehe:S.
You're not supposed to eat it with your ears.
I guess if you have it with chili as suggested then your ears would be burning? :blink:
S.
October 11, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Fal (10/11/2012)
jcrawf02 (10/11/2012)
Fal (10/11/2012)
Remember you are what you eat. That's how you get Cauliflower Ears. :hehe:S.
You're not supposed to eat it with your ears.
I guess if you have it with chili as suggested then your ears would be burning? :blink:
S.
If I ate Cauliflower and Chili, it wouldn't be my ears that would burn.
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October 11, 2012 at 7:55 pm
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Fal (10/11/2012)
jcrawf02 (10/11/2012)
Fal (10/11/2012)
Remember you are what you eat. That's how you get Cauliflower Ears. :hehe:S.
You're not supposed to eat it with your ears.
I guess if you have it with chili as suggested then your ears would be burning? :blink:
S.
π
If I ate Cauliflower and Chili, it wouldn't be my ears that would burn.
I believe you. I have no doubt it would be everybody else's ears that would be burning. :hehe:
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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October 11, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (10/11/2012)
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He is also the type that thinks you are unprofessional if you crack a joke during a presentation. Then he rips you apart on the speaker survey for that joke.
I haven't gotten too many of these, but every once in awhile someone thinks I'm not serious enough.
I use the 5% rule. Toss the top 5% of complaints and of praise. Look for everything in between on evals.
I do a bit differently. Just like there's a bit of truth in every rumor, there's information in every complaint. I may come to the conclusion that the complaint isn't correct, but I at least consider them because they're a written notice of what someone perceived and you have to wonder if the vast "silent majority" may have had the same perception but said nothing.
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October 15, 2012 at 6:07 am
Jeff Moden (10/11/2012)
Just like there's a bit of truth in every rumor, there's information in every complaint. I may come to the conclusion that the complaint isn't correct, but I at least consider them because they're a written notice of what someone perceived and you have to wonder if the vast "silent majority" may have had the same perception but said nothing.
That way lies madness. Especially for people prone to depression or people who are insecure about presenting. This may work for you, but it's not something I'd recommend to others simply because I know too many people who would start reading the complaints into everyone's review (or lack of review).
October 15, 2012 at 6:27 am
I have to agree, some of the comments I've had have been so strange that you just can't get anything useful out of them.
Grant and I got something like 'Next time get a competent trainer' comment on our precon.
One year at teched I got "Clearly never spoken in public and should never consider ever doing so again". That was after I'd spoken at a teched and 2 PASS summits.
Last year from PASS session I got someone telling me that they were going to buy me a 'Baby learns to talk' book because my inane babblings were incomprehensible.
If I considered that the 'silent majority' held similar opinions I'd never present ever again.
Gail Shaw
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October 15, 2012 at 6:39 am
GilaMonster (10/15/2012)
I have to agree, some of the comments I've had have been so strange that you just can't get anything useful out of them.Grant and I got something like 'Next time get a competent trainer' comment on our precon.
One year at teched I got "Clearly never spoken in public and should never consider ever doing so again". That was after I'd spoken at a teched and 2 PASS summits.
Last year from PASS session I got someone telling me that they were going to buy me a 'Baby learns to talk' book because my inane babblings were incomprehensible.
If I considered that the 'silent majority' held similar opinions I'd never present ever again.
There will always be people who, when they don't understand a lecture, blame the teacher. It couldn't possibly be them, so you get comments like the ones you list.
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October 15, 2012 at 6:53 am
That is just plain mean. No call for that in any exchange, whether it be in person or through the perceived anonymity of cyberspace. :ermm:
October 15, 2012 at 7:04 am
It just goes to show that some people really lack the ability to listen.
I ran into that a lot when I worked in the university system. I worked at a private college and took tuition money from a lot of Easterners (Nepalese, Thai, etc.) who were attending as E.S.L. students (English as a second language). I rarely had problems understanding them and only when they didn't know the word for something did we struggle.
One day my coworkers commented how amazed they were at my ability to communicate because they could never get past the students' "thick" accents to understand the words being spoken.
Those comments have always stuck with me, reminding me that there is a difference between "hearing" what people say and "listening" to what people say. And also reminding me of the importance of being able to see someone's lips when they speak. That one is an old theatre truism. If you can't see their lips move, you can't "hear" what they're saying, even if you speak the same language (natively) and have the same accent.
I've heard Gail speak online when I couldn't even see her face. There's nothing wrong with her speaking ability or her presentation skills. I understood her perfectly, even though she uses the Queen's English instead of my own twisted version of MidWestern U.S. English. @=)
October 16, 2012 at 5:31 am
It is hard to figure out how to deal with wildly deviant feedback. "Best session of the day" and "Whiny dick" were two of the feedback I got in OKC at SQL Saturday. How do you reconcile that? You don't. But you can't simply ignore the stuff you don't like and why would you ignore the stuff you like?
I try not to let the really negative stuff get me down, but I try to figure out if there is a grain of truth in it. The OKC presentation, I did spend too much time on a section of the presentation that should have only been 10-15 minutes. I think that put the presentation off and at least somewhat contributed to the bad remarks (from only two people, but still). Without the bad comments, I don't know that I would have done the belly-button gazing that, potentially, means I can improve this presentation.
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