August 10, 2012 at 10:59 am
Threadzians, I am once again published!
Today is release day for my biblical horror story "Feast of the Torn," put out by Buzzy Magazine.
Want to know the best part? You can read it for FREE. So, stop on by Buzzy's website and take a gander. Comments and reviews are welcome. http://buzzymag.com/feast-of-the-torn-by-brandie-tarvin/[/url]
WARNING this story is not for the squeamish. It is dark fantasy, horror, and it has actually made some of my beta readers cry and try to throw it away.
August 10, 2012 at 11:03 am
Brandie Tarvin (8/10/2012)
Threadzians, I am once again published!Today is release day for my biblical horror story "Feast of the Torn," put out by Buzzy Magazine.
Want to know the best part? You can read it for FREE. So, stop on by Buzzy's website and take a gander. Comments and reviews are welcome. http://buzzymag.com/feast-of-the-torn-by-brandie-tarvin/[/url]
WARNING this story is not for the squeamish. It is dark fantasy, horror, and it has actually made some of my beta readers cry and try to throw it away.
Congratulations! That sounds like just the reaction you want for horror.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
August 10, 2012 at 11:07 am
Stefan Krzywicki (8/10/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (8/10/2012)
Threadzians, I am once again published!Today is release day for my biblical horror story "Feast of the Torn," put out by Buzzy Magazine.
Want to know the best part? You can read it for FREE. So, stop on by Buzzy's website and take a gander. Comments and reviews are welcome. http://buzzymag.com/feast-of-the-torn-by-brandie-tarvin/[/url]
WARNING this story is not for the squeamish. It is dark fantasy, horror, and it has actually made some of my beta readers cry and try to throw it away.
Congratulations! That sounds like just the reaction you want for horror.
I know. The first time a beta reader told me it was "so awful and horrid" that she had to stop reading it, she was actually shivering. She said she couldn't critique it because it was giving her nightmares... daymares? Anyway, I was thrilled.
August 10, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Brandie Tarvin (8/10/2012)
Stefan Krzywicki (8/10/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (8/10/2012)
Threadzians, I am once again published!Today is release day for my biblical horror story "Feast of the Torn," put out by Buzzy Magazine.
Want to know the best part? You can read it for FREE. So, stop on by Buzzy's website and take a gander. Comments and reviews are welcome. http://buzzymag.com/feast-of-the-torn-by-brandie-tarvin/[/url]
WARNING this story is not for the squeamish. It is dark fantasy, horror, and it has actually made some of my beta readers cry and try to throw it away.
Congratulations! That sounds like just the reaction you want for horror.
I know. The first time a beta reader told me it was "so awful and horrid" that she had to stop reading it, she was actually shivering. She said she couldn't critique it because it was giving her nightmares... daymares? Anyway, I was thrilled.
That is what makes literarure an art, not just a craft.
Congratulations, Brandie!
August 10, 2012 at 2:05 pm
I have the same reaction when doing peer reviews of code. 😛
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
August 10, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Okay. Just let off a little rant to Mr. Celko again. Please, if anyone thinks I went too far (and no, you'll have to find it yourselves) please let me know.
August 10, 2012 at 2:23 pm
GSquared (8/10/2012)
jasona.work (8/10/2012)
Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden this yer?See the løveli lakes
The wonderful telephøne system
And mani interesting furry animals
Including the majestic møøse
A Møøse once bit my sister ...
No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink".
Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretty nasti...
Those responsible for sacking those responsible for sacking those responsible for the credits, have been sacked.
Meh. It's just a model...
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August 10, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Lynn Pettis (8/10/2012)
Okay. Just let off a little rant to Mr. Celko again. Please, if anyone thinks I went too far (and no, you'll have to find it yourselves) please let me know.
It was certainly not in the thread I was involved in. Your reply there was pretty decent with a speck of humour.
Need an answer? No, you need a question
My blog at https://sqlkover.com.
MCSE Business Intelligence - Microsoft Data Platform MVP
August 10, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Koen Verbeeck (8/10/2012)
Lynn Pettis (8/10/2012)
Okay. Just let off a little rant to Mr. Celko again. Please, if anyone thinks I went too far (and no, you'll have to find it yourselves) please let me know.It was certainly not in the thread I was involved in. Your reply there was pretty decent with a speck of humour.
That comment came after my rant. You could say my comment was because of my rant.
August 10, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Lynn Pettis (8/10/2012)
Okay. Just let off a little rant to Mr. Celko again. Please, if anyone thinks I went too far (and no, you'll have to find it yourselves) please let me know.
No, I don't think you went too far.
To be fair, it was not one of the worst posts of JC. Moreover, I tend to agree with him on this subject, even if I'm not a "anti-surrogate jihadist".
-- Gianluca Sartori
August 10, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Gianluca Sartori (8/10/2012)
Lynn Pettis (8/10/2012)
Okay. Just let off a little rant to Mr. Celko again. Please, if anyone thinks I went too far (and no, you'll have to find it yourselves) please let me know.No, I don't think you went too far.
To be fair, it was not one of the worst posts of JC. Moreover, I tend to agree with him on this subject, even if I'm not a "anti-surrogate jihadist".
I think the part that bothers me most, and it could just be the way I interpret his posts, is that he thinks he is always right and everyone else is wrong. He doesn't seem to accept that his answers aren't always right. If I'm wrong, show me, I'm willing to accept it. How else do we we grow and get get better at what we do?
August 10, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Lynn Pettis (8/10/2012)
Gianluca Sartori (8/10/2012)
Lynn Pettis (8/10/2012)
Okay. Just let off a little rant to Mr. Celko again. Please, if anyone thinks I went too far (and no, you'll have to find it yourselves) please let me know.No, I don't think you went too far.
To be fair, it was not one of the worst posts of JC. Moreover, I tend to agree with him on this subject, even if I'm not a "anti-surrogate jihadist".
I think the part that bothers me most, and it could just be the way I interpret his posts, is that he thinks he is always right and everyone else is wrong. He doesn't seem to accept that his answers aren't always right. If I'm wrong, show me, I'm willing to accept it. How else do we we grow and get get better at what we do?
I think that's a big part of what bothers me about him in addition to the rudeness. He speaks as though if you do anything other than his way it is simply wrong. No discussion to be had.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
August 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Lynn Pettis (8/10/2012)
I think the part that bothers me most, and it could just be the way I interpret his posts, is that he thinks he is always right and everyone else is wrong. He doesn't seem to accept that his answers aren't always right. If I'm wrong, show me, I'm willing to accept it. How else do we we grow and get get better at what we do?
I disagree. I think all too often you are arguing about two different things. He points out problems, admittedly with a poor attitude. He is often arguing about (in his opinion), unprofessional or improper ways of tackling an issue or posing a question.
I see you, and others, argue about his style, or that his post isn't helpful to the OP. I disagree, though I don't think he's helpful much. And he turns people off.
Perhaps you are referring to another post, but this is my reflection across many posts.
I think that if you are trying to somehow engage Mr. Celko in an argument, or prove he's wrong to anyone, you will fail. He attacks problems differently than you may, and ranting at him or posting anything is unlikely to do change anything.
Reading his posts or responding to them is, however, likely to raise your blood pressure.
August 10, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (8/10/2012)
Lynn Pettis (8/10/2012)
I think the part that bothers me most, and it could just be the way I interpret his posts, is that he thinks he is always right and everyone else is wrong. He doesn't seem to accept that his answers aren't always right. If I'm wrong, show me, I'm willing to accept it. How else do we we grow and get get better at what we do?I disagree. I think all too often you are arguing about two different things. He points out problems, admittedly with a poor attitude. He is often arguing about (in his opinion), unprofessional or improper ways of tackling an issue or posing a question.
I see you, and others, argue about his style, or that his post isn't helpful to the OP. I disagree, though I don't think he's helpful much. And he turns people off.
Perhaps you are referring to another post, but this is my reflection across many posts.
I think that if you are trying to somehow engage Mr. Celko in an argument, or prove he's wrong to anyone, you will fail. He attacks problems differently than you may, and ranting at him or posting anything is unlikely to do change anything.
Reading his posts or responding to them is, however, likely to raise your blood pressure.
So you agree, it is how I interpret his posts. I'm looking at them wrong. I'm sorry if I can't see past the constant attacks and negative aspects of what he writes. I have to base what I do off what I have to work with and my own past experiences.
Natural keys vs Surrogate keys is one example. I have worked with a database that was designed wrong. But I had to work with what was given. It would have been nice to rewrite the application and redesign the database, but it wasn't in the cards. We didn't have the resources (people, time, or budget). Several times over an eleven year period, parts of the database that had natural keys became broken because of changes in business rules that made the natural key no longer a valid primary key. This caused problems that could have been mitigated by the use of surrogate keys. The surrogate keys would have allowed us to uniquely identified records when the original natural key no longer did. But this is wrong in the eyes of Mr. Celko. I argue that having another candidate key in the data, one not affected by the data or the processing on the data can provide another means of uniquely identifying records when needed.
If I'm wrong, tell me. Show me how I am wrong and how I can do things better. But don't attack me, don't challenge my intellect, knowledge, skills, or abilities. All you are going to do at that point is put me on the defensive and then I don't care how right you may be.
August 10, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Lynn Pettis (8/10/2012)
If I'm wrong, tell me. Show me how I am wrong and how I can do things better. But don't attack me, don't challenge my intellect, knowledge, skills, or abilities. All you are going to do at that point is put me on the defensive and then I don't care how right you may be.
You're missing the point. There is no right and wrong here. You are arguing a different perspective than Mr. Celko, often not even on the technical merits.
Making do with what exists is fundamentally different than dealing with improper design.
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