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Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • July 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    #1513924

    capn.hector (7/17/2012)

    Lynn Pettis (7/17/2012)

    Really???

    does not seem to be the same welsh as when i first started posting.

    or is it

    I don't know. There have been some seriously strange questions from him. Mixture of semi-advanced and outright basic.

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

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  • July 17, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    #1513928

    GilaMonster (7/17/2012)

    capn.hector (7/17/2012)

    Lynn Pettis (7/17/2012)

    Really???

    does not seem to be the same welsh as when i first started posting.

    or is it

    I don't know. There have been some seriously strange questions from him. Mixture of semi-advanced and outright basic.

    When I first started SQL Server, my knowledge was incredibly spikey in where I knew a ton (for the time) and absolutely nothing. For example, I knew jack about indexing other than I wanted them, but I was very strong in pure SQL logic due to my time in Access.

    I have a feeling that may be the case here, and probably doesn't have a local mentor to bounce the 'easy ones' off of so they want to doublecheck themselves with a community they can trust.

    - Craig Farrell

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  • July 17, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    #1513940

    Evil Kraig F (7/17/2012)

    GilaMonster (7/17/2012)

    capn.hector (7/17/2012)

    Lynn Pettis (7/17/2012)

    Really???

    does not seem to be the same welsh as when i first started posting.

    or is it

    I don't know. There have been some seriously strange questions from him. Mixture of semi-advanced and outright basic.

    When I first started SQL Server, my knowledge was incredibly spikey in where I knew a ton (for the time) and absolutely nothing. For example, I knew jack about indexing other than I wanted them, but I was very strong in pure SQL logic due to my time in Access.

    I have a feeling that may be the case here, and probably doesn't have a local mentor to bounce the 'easy ones' off of so they want to doublecheck themselves with a community they can trust.

    As long as he has been working with SQL Server, some of these questions are just hard to believe.

    What if I had asked the same question, what would have gone through your minds? I guess it comes down to expectations of someone with 7 years experience working with SQL Server.

  • July 17, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    #1513950

    Lynn Pettis (7/17/2012)

    As long as he has been working with SQL Server, some of these questions are just hard to believe.

    What if I had asked the same question, what would have gone through your minds? I guess it comes down to expectations of someone with 7 years experience working with SQL Server.

    That you were having an off day and brainfarting? But I've seen your skills and work, I've yet to see Welsh offer anything significant, though I don't read every thread anymore.

    - Craig Farrell

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  • July 17, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    #1513951

    Evil Kraig F (7/17/2012)

    Lynn Pettis (7/17/2012)

    As long as he has been working with SQL Server, some of these questions are just hard to believe.

    What if I had asked the same question, what would have gone through your minds? I guess it comes down to expectations of someone with 7 years experience working with SQL Server.

    That you were having an off day and brainfarting?

    I was think more of a serious brain injury, but okay.

    But I've seen your skills and work,

    But you still won't consider me for remote part-time work to augment my income. 😉

    I've yet to see Welsh offer anything significant, though I don't read every thread anymore.

    Mostly requests for assistance, but I have tried to engage him where I think some of his experience would be of benefit. Lately though, the questions have become more basic, and (imho) more for work to be done than just guidance.

  • July 17, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    #1513980

    Lynn Pettis (7/17/2012)

    I've yet to see Welsh offer anything significant, though I don't read every thread anymore.

    Mostly requests for assistance, but I have tried to engage him where I think some of his experience would be of benefit. Lately though, the questions have become more basic, and (imho) more for work to be done than just guidance.

    We all have holes, sometimes serious ones in places. I'm amazed sometimes with the questions on the MVP list, but everyone doesn't know everything, or even been exposed to everything in the product. That was a fairly basic question, but perhaps he's never worked with MERGE before?

  • July 18, 2012 at 2:23 am

    #1514065

    SQLRNNR (7/17/2012)

    Congrats to Gail and Grant on the new book coming out in November.

    http://www.apress.com/9781430247708

    Here's another one coming out in August (by a couple of other threadizens).

    http://www.amazon.com/Server-2012-T-SQL-Recipes-Problem-Solution/dp/1430242000

    Yeah! Congrats indeed!

    -- Gianluca Sartori

  • July 18, 2012 at 7:00 am

    #1514188

    rodjkidd (7/17/2012)

    BrainDonor (7/17/2012)

    Lynn Pettis (7/17/2012)

    Okay, Brad is Hannible, you are Murdock, and Steve is Face. Who is B A Barrackus?

    The one that kept insulting people and calling them 'Fool'? That has to be Celko, surely.

    "I pity the fool who doesn't use ISO standards!"

    Rodders...

    ...proceeds to clean coffee off her keyboard...

    -Ki

  • July 18, 2012 at 8:01 am

    #1514227

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/17/2012)

    Lynn Pettis (7/17/2012)

    I've yet to see Welsh offer anything significant, though I don't read every thread anymore.

    Mostly requests for assistance, but I have tried to engage him where I think some of his experience would be of benefit. Lately though, the questions have become more basic, and (imho) more for work to be done than just guidance.

    We all have holes, sometimes serious ones in places. I'm amazed sometimes with the questions on the MVP list, but everyone doesn't know everything, or even been exposed to everything in the product. That was a fairly basic question, but perhaps he's never worked with MERGE before?

    I know I haven't used MERGE yet. It could also be that he's like me in that he has broader knowledge that prevents him from having the time to get quite as deep into SQL Server. Before the job I'm on now I worked with and frequently switched between VB.Net, C#, C++, HTML, DHTML, ASP, XML, Sharepoint, Javascript, Access, SQL Server, Office Scripting, Cold Fusion, Photoshop and whatever else was thrown my way including 3rd party software, company specific programs and legacy code for languages I don't actually know.

    I've been working with SQL Server since 6.5 or 7, but there are still large gaps in my knowledge. I'm much better witih 2008 & 2005, but that's because that's what I've been using primarily on this job. Also because I've finally had the time to focus on one (or three) things. This site and SQL Server Saturdays and my local SQL Server Users Group have been an enormous help, but I wouldn't be surprised if I ask questions here that have you thinking the same of me that you do of him.

    To me, as long as someone is willing to learn, work and put in the effort to improve, that's all I can ask or expect. The people that just want things handed to them and keep asking the same basics over and over are the ones I have a problem with.

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  • July 18, 2012 at 9:16 am

    #1514285

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/17/2012)

    Lynn Pettis (7/17/2012)

    I've yet to see Welsh offer anything significant, though I don't read every thread anymore.

    Mostly requests for assistance, but I have tried to engage him where I think some of his experience would be of benefit. Lately though, the questions have become more basic, and (imho) more for work to be done than just guidance.

    We all have holes, sometimes serious ones in places. I'm amazed sometimes with the questions on the MVP list, but everyone doesn't know everything, or even been exposed to everything in the product. That was a fairly basic question, but perhaps he's never worked with MERGE before?

    Possibly. Could also be a change in his current situation, under more pressure perhaps. Just seems over the last few months he's been asking very basic questions or looking for what appears to be free help with work. I can't go far enough back to really say more than that. It just seemed that he was asking more detailed and advanced type questions at one time.

  • July 18, 2012 at 10:31 am

    #1514347

    Gianluca Sartori (7/18/2012)

    SQLRNNR (7/17/2012)

    Congrats to Gail and Grant on the new book coming out in November.

    http://www.apress.com/9781430247708

    Here's another one coming out in August (by a couple of other threadizens).

    http://www.amazon.com/Server-2012-T-SQL-Recipes-Problem-Solution/dp/1430242000

    Yeah! Congrats indeed!

    You're welcome.;-)

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
    _______________________________________________
    I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
    SQL RNNR
    Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
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  • July 18, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    #1514442

    Gianluca Sartori (7/18/2012)

    SQLRNNR (7/17/2012)

    Congrats to Gail and Grant on the new book coming out in November.

    http://www.apress.com/9781430247708

    Here's another one coming out in August (by a couple of other threadizens).

    http://www.amazon.com/Server-2012-T-SQL-Recipes-Problem-Solution/dp/1430242000

    Yeah! Congrats indeed!

    That second one looks like it would be pretty good. (But then again, I just might be biased.)

    Wayne
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server 2008
    Author - SQL Server T-SQL Recipes

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  • July 18, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    #1514470

    WayneS (7/18/2012)

    Gianluca Sartori (7/18/2012)

    SQLRNNR (7/17/2012)

    Congrats to Gail and Grant on the new book coming out in November.

    http://www.apress.com/9781430247708

    Here's another one coming out in August (by a couple of other threadizens).

    http://www.amazon.com/Server-2012-T-SQL-Recipes-Problem-Solution/dp/1430242000

    Yeah! Congrats indeed!

    That second one looks like it would be pretty good. (But then again, I just might be biased.)

    Added it to my list of QOD ads in the newsletter 😉

  • July 18, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    #1514472

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/18/2012)

    WayneS (7/18/2012)

    Gianluca Sartori (7/18/2012)

    SQLRNNR (7/17/2012)

    Congrats to Gail and Grant on the new book coming out in November.

    http://www.apress.com/9781430247708

    Here's another one coming out in August (by a couple of other threadizens).

    http://www.amazon.com/Server-2012-T-SQL-Recipes-Problem-Solution/dp/1430242000

    Yeah! Congrats indeed!

    That second one looks like it would be pretty good. (But then again, I just might be biased.)

    Added it to my list of QOD ads in the newsletter 😉

    The first one as well as the second please? It has some deep stuff in, I promise,

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

  • July 18, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    #1514487

    GilaMonster (7/18/2012)

    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/18/2012)

    WayneS (7/18/2012)

    Gianluca Sartori (7/18/2012)

    SQLRNNR (7/17/2012)

    Congrats to Gail and Grant on the new book coming out in November.

    http://www.apress.com/9781430247708

    Here's another one coming out in August (by a couple of other threadizens).

    http://www.amazon.com/Server-2012-T-SQL-Recipes-Problem-Solution/dp/1430242000

    Yeah! Congrats indeed!

    That second one looks like it would be pretty good. (But then again, I just might be biased.)

    Added it to my list of QOD ads in the newsletter 😉

    The first one as well as the second please? It has some deep stuff in, I promise,

    I concur. Grant and Gails book should be included in ads.

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
    _______________________________________________
    I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
    SQL RNNR
    Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
    Learn Extended Events

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