July 13, 2012 at 12:29 am
Evil Kraig F (7/12/2012)
A request to the threadizens, please don't pile on TeraByteMe if you happen across our little spat, at least not on my behalf. If it continues I'll be attempting to take it to PMs and get it off the main boards.Edit: I should say if you want to take a swipe at me however, feel free. I can live with it.
Interesting...left ten jobs in two years? Did he jump or was he pushed?
Craig, your commendable restraint and solid common sense really emphasise the OP's shoulder chip. A win here would be an admission from him that he has an issue.
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July 13, 2012 at 12:38 am
Evil Kraig F (7/12/2012)
A request to the threadizens, please don't pile on TeraByteMe if you happen across our little spat, at least not on my behalf. If it continues I'll be attempting to take it to PMs and get it off the main boards.Edit: I should say if you want to take a swipe at me however, feel free. I can live with it.
It seems he was looking more for a "C'mon chap, you'll be fine" answer instead of the truth.
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July 13, 2012 at 1:45 am
Koen Verbeeck (7/13/2012)
Evil Kraig F (7/12/2012)
A request to the threadizens, please don't pile on TeraByteMe if you happen across our little spat, at least not on my behalf. If it continues I'll be attempting to take it to PMs and get it off the main boards.Edit: I should say if you want to take a swipe at me however, feel free. I can live with it.
It seems he was looking more for a "C'mon chap, you'll be fine" answer instead of the truth.
I know, but my world was raised on tough love. My mother (of all people) knows damned well she can say anything, and I'll think on it. I may not AGREE, but that's another story. I know why it came from. (slightly mis-explained, but amazingly well if you've ever dealt with my family... or another like it 🙂 I wouldn't have it any other way for gold nor garters.)
@chris-2: Thank you. I just want Terabyte to be able to vent their spleen at me and not the board. In general, they've been a community asset. I can only assume a 'helpful suggestion applied with force of personality' has poisoned them to me. I can live with that as long as the newbs (not noobs) continue to get solid advice. It really is a shame, I liked her/(him?). Life is.
EDIT: Just... please. We already have a rep with other people who don't know us (live discussion, I've fixed what I can). I can live with ME getting the hammer. That's my world, and unfortunately part of it is my chasing of the Celko to smack him down. This place is filled with too many helpful and wonderful people to allow the amazing help this board can offer to people to allow one spat to degrade into "WTF is RONG with u ppl?!". I'll absorb it. Stay out. This will explode, don't be caught in it.
My choice.
Edit 2: I purposely haven't "reported" the posts. Steve, please leave them active. I know Tera has already editted a post to hide their original commentary, and I can only assume that's either out of shame or a bad troll attempt. The generic public needs to know we're human, and with my mouth and attitude I purposely didn't report them even though I was the target of the vitriol; I won't be that hypocrite. Either way, I don't see a need for a mod's involvement.
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July 13, 2012 at 10:52 am
July 13, 2012 at 10:56 am
Lynn Pettis (7/13/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (7/13/2012)
YAY for people who still allow SQL Injection on their servers! (NOT!)http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57470786-83/hackers-post-450k-credentials-pilfered-from-yahoo/[/url]
Yes, saw that on twitter yesterday.
Some people will never learn I guess.
I am curious who will lose his or her job. Someone should.
July 13, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Revenant (7/13/2012)
Lynn Pettis (7/13/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (7/13/2012)
YAY for people who still allow SQL Injection on their servers! (NOT!)http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57470786-83/hackers-post-450k-credentials-pilfered-from-yahoo/[/url]
Yes, saw that on twitter yesterday.
Some people will never learn I guess.
I am curious who will lose his or her job. Someone should.
More than likely some him/her in IT who requested budget funding to develop enhanced security, but whose request was rejected by a manager as being over budget / too expensive / etc., etc. When in fact the truth is, the one at fault was the manager who denied the funding request.
I for one am convinced that weak security measures will only be strengthened when companies are forced to pay a substantial fine for each and every password / credit card number / etc., etc. obtained by hackers. And by significant I mean 1 thousand U.S, dollars and what ever that equivalent is in pounds sterling / lira ...
July 13, 2012 at 12:28 pm
bitbucket-25253 (7/13/2012)
Revenant (7/13/2012)
Lynn Pettis (7/13/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (7/13/2012)
YAY for people who still allow SQL Injection on their servers! (NOT!)http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57470786-83/hackers-post-450k-credentials-pilfered-from-yahoo/[/url]
Yes, saw that on twitter yesterday.
Some people will never learn I guess.
I am curious who will lose his or her job. Someone should.
More than likely some him/her in IT who requested budget funding to develop enhanced security, but whose request was rejected by a manager as being over budget / too expensive / etc., etc. When in fact the truth is, the one at fault was the manager who denied the funding request.
I for one am convinced that weak security measures will only be strengthened when companies are forced to pay a substantial fine for each and every password / credit card number / etc., etc. obtained by hackers. And by significant I mean 1 thousand U.S, dollars and what ever that equivalent is in pounds sterling / lira ...
Better make it a % of pre-tax income. Banks and some others could absorb that kind of loss and not flinch.
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July 13, 2012 at 12:31 pm
bitbucket-25253 (7/13/2012)
Revenant (7/13/2012)
Lynn Pettis (7/13/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (7/13/2012)
YAY for people who still allow SQL Injection on their servers! (NOT!)http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57470786-83/hackers-post-450k-credentials-pilfered-from-yahoo/[/url]
Yes, saw that on twitter yesterday.
Some people will never learn I guess.
I am curious who will lose his or her job. Someone should.
More than likely some him/her in IT who requested budget funding to develop enhanced security, but whose request was rejected by a manager as being over budget / too expensive / etc., etc. When in fact the truth is, the one at fault was the manager who denied the funding request.
I for one am convinced that weak security measures will only be strengthened when companies are forced to pay a substantial fine for each and every password / credit card number / etc., etc. obtained by hackers. And by significant I mean 1 thousand U.S, dollars and what ever that equivalent is in pounds sterling / lira ...
And when that happens, people will get fired for each breach. But it won't be the person who denied the funding. It will be the poor slob who got saddled with Mission Impossible. (Why didn't you use the tools you had?)
As far as I'm concerned, SQL Injection doesn't need additional funding for someone to code workarounds. The tools are available as part of SQL Server, if anyone has the knowledge and the time to implement them. And I'm thinking it was a time issue or someone said "Oh, this server is scheduled for decomissioning. Don't worry about securing it. We've got bigger fires."
July 13, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Lynn Pettis (7/13/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (7/13/2012)
YAY for people who still allow SQL Injection on their servers! (NOT!)http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57470786-83/hackers-post-450k-credentials-pilfered-from-yahoo/[/url]
Yes, saw that on twitter yesterday.
Some people will never learn I guess.
Ah, this is fun. I love things like this. "If you used Yahoo you... etc etc..." and at the end, a reminder why we avoid non-direct-proc calls and restrict the user logins to damned near nothing.
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July 15, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Thanks to "El" Jerry, Jason, Lynn, Paul, Stefan, Gianluca, Bex, Grant, Brandie, Greg, Kiara, Revenant, Sean, Craig, Rodders, Dwain, Ray, Jeff, Jack, Wayne, Jan, and Gus for prayers and/or sympathy. Hope I haven't missed anyone.
Ann and I and our three boys spent several days with Nikki before she became unable to communicate, and stayed with her until the end. She was only 44 years old when she died.
Today is the first time I've felt up to looking at email, or at SQLServerCentral, or in fact doing anything that doesn't relate in some way to Nikki. Slowly but surely becoming reconciled to the idea that I've outlived her, instead of her outliving me.
Tom
July 16, 2012 at 2:05 am
Evil Kraig F (7/12/2012)
A request to the threadizens, please don't pile on TeraByteMe if you happen across our little spat, at least not on my behalf. If it continues I'll be attempting to take it to PMs and get it off the main boards.Edit: I should say if you want to take a swipe at me however, feel free. I can live with it.
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July 16, 2012 at 2:07 am
L' Eomot Inversé (7/15/2012)
Thanks to "El" Jerry, Jason, Lynn, Paul, Stefan, Gianluca, Bex, Grant, Brandie, Greg, Kiara, Revenant, Sean, Craig, Rodders, Dwain, Ray, Jeff, Jack, Wayne, Jan, and Gus for prayers and/or sympathy. Hope I haven't missed anyone.Ann and I and our three boys spent several days with Nikki before she became unable to communicate, and stayed with her until the end. She was only 44 years old when she died.
Today is the first time I've felt up to looking at email, or at SQLServerCentral, or in fact doing anything that doesn't relate in some way to Nikki. Slowly but surely becoming reconciled to the idea that I've outlived her, instead of her outliving me.
Thoughts and prayers to you and the family. I'm so very sorry.
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July 16, 2012 at 6:27 am
L' Eomot Inversé (7/15/2012)
Thanks to "El" Jerry, Jason, Lynn, Paul, Stefan, Gianluca, Bex, Grant, Brandie, Greg, Kiara, Revenant, Sean, Craig, Rodders, Dwain, Ray, Jeff, Jack, Wayne, Jan, and Gus for prayers and/or sympathy. Hope I haven't missed anyone.Ann and I and our three boys spent several days with Nikki before she became unable to communicate, and stayed with her until the end. She was only 44 years old when she died.
Today is the first time I've felt up to looking at email, or at SQLServerCentral, or in fact doing anything that doesn't relate in some way to Nikki. Slowly but surely becoming reconciled to the idea that I've outlived her, instead of her outliving me.
Tom, there are no words. My heart aches for you and your family.
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July 16, 2012 at 7:33 am
L' Eomot Inversé (7/15/2012)
Thanks to "El" Jerry, Jason, Lynn, Paul, Stefan, Gianluca, Bex, Grant, Brandie, Greg, Kiara, Revenant, Sean, Craig, Rodders, Dwain, Ray, Jeff, Jack, Wayne, Jan, and Gus for prayers and/or sympathy. Hope I haven't missed anyone.Ann and I and our three boys spent several days with Nikki before she became unable to communicate, and stayed with her until the end. She was only 44 years old when she died.
Today is the first time I've felt up to looking at email, or at SQLServerCentral, or in fact doing anything that doesn't relate in some way to Nikki. Slowly but surely becoming reconciled to the idea that I've outlived her, instead of her outliving me.
I told you you were on my mind. I've not looked at the thread for a while and when I sat down in front of my machine this morning, my first thought was about how you and your's were doing.
I join the others in feeling your pain and wish you you didn't have to go through all this. I lost one of my younger brother's back in 2003 in a similar fashion and I don't wish it on anyone. It hit my Mom and Dad really hard. Hang in there, ol' friend.
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