June 14, 2012 at 6:56 am
Kiara (6/14/2012)
So, I'm moving to a new laptop. And trying to decide whether to stick with my dev environment installed locally on the machine, or building a/several virtuals to put it in.I've worked both ways in the past, and there are pros and cons to both methods.
How do you guys manage portable dev environments? Virtuals, or local installs? More importantly, what's the reasoning behind your choices?
Thanks in advance!
Virtuals. It makes things so much easier to reset the planet after you screw something up. Or maybe that's just me.
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June 14, 2012 at 7:00 am
Kiara (6/14/2012)
So, I'm moving to a new laptop. And trying to decide whether to stick with my dev environment installed locally on the machine, or building a/several virtuals to put it in.I've worked both ways in the past, and there are pros and cons to both methods.
How do you guys manage portable dev environments? Virtuals, or local installs? More importantly, what's the reasoning behind your choices?
I install SQL versions that are officially released just locally on my laptop.
CTP and RC I install them in a virtual machine, as I don't trust them yet 🙂
@Grant, yes, we noticed on Twitter how easy virtual machines can be 😉
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June 14, 2012 at 7:23 am
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Kiara (6/14/2012)
So, I'm moving to a new laptop. And trying to decide whether to stick with my dev environment installed locally on the machine, or building a/several virtuals to put it in.I've worked both ways in the past, and there are pros and cons to both methods.
How do you guys manage portable dev environments? Virtuals, or local installs? More importantly, what's the reasoning behind your choices?
I install SQL versions that are officially released just locally on my laptop.
CTP and RC I install them in a virtual machine, as I don't trust them yet 🙂
@Grant, yes, we noticed on Twitter how easy virtual machines can be 😉
Be nice. 😛
I have a number of different virtuals. Some of them are giving me no issues at all. The only problems I'm running into are with a set of virtuals that I've used to create an AlwaysOn environment. These things have been a nightmare. Interesting point, after I went back to my backups & restored them, I had them all online in no time. Everything is working great with them right now as a matter of fact. Backups are wonderful things.
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June 14, 2012 at 8:22 am
Kiara (6/14/2012)
So, I'm moving to a new laptop. And trying to decide whether to stick with my dev environment installed locally on the machine, or building a/several virtuals to put it in.I've worked both ways in the past, and there are pros and cons to both methods.
How do you guys manage portable dev environments? Virtuals, or local installs? More importantly, what's the reasoning behind your choices?
Thanks in advance!
I've heard good things about cloudshare[/url]. It is an inexpensive, flexible dev environment. You can pick and choose what you get and end up with a more powerful, cheaper dev space. I haven't tried it yet and it is in the "cloud", but it could be good.
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June 14, 2012 at 9:29 am
Hey, SQL gurus -- I could use some help on this question, if anyone has a moment.
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June 14, 2012 at 9:50 am
Brandie Tarvin (6/14/2012)
Hey, Steve. How is the ranch doing? How far is the wildfire from you?And any other Threadzians who live in Colorado... Are you all okay?
I'm near Parker, CO, so nowhere near anything. The fires are up North, near Fort Collins, or way down South near NM. The smoke apparently go near Denver, but not me.
Good thing. Been dry this year.
June 14, 2012 at 9:53 am
Kiara (6/14/2012)
So, I'm moving to a new laptop. And trying to decide whether to stick with my dev environment installed locally on the machine, or building a/several virtuals to put it in.I've worked both ways in the past, and there are pros and cons to both methods.
How do you guys manage portable dev environments? Virtuals, or local installs? More importantly, what's the reasoning behind your choices?
Thanks in advance!
Virtuals. I copy VMWare disks from my desktop (W7) to my laptop (OSX, Fusion) and then use them on the road when presenting or working. works great. I keep a second copy on a removable disk in case my SSD dies on the road.
June 14, 2012 at 9:57 am
Stefan Krzywicki (6/14/2012)
I've heard good things about cloudshare[/url]. It is an inexpensive, flexible dev environment. You can pick and choose what you get and end up with a more powerful, cheaper dev space. I haven't tried it yet and it is in the "cloud", but it could be good.
I saw a guy present from Cloudshare last year. He really liked it, but since connectivity is an issue when I'm roving at times, I didn't think it would work for me.
June 14, 2012 at 9:59 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (6/14/2012)
Stefan Krzywicki (6/14/2012)
I've heard good things about cloudshare[/url]. It is an inexpensive, flexible dev environment. You can pick and choose what you get and end up with a more powerful, cheaper dev space. I haven't tried it yet and it is in the "cloud", but it could be good.
I saw a guy present from Cloudshare last year. He really liked it, but since connectivity is an issue when I'm roving at times, I didn't think it would work for me.
I like that you essentially get to rent the dev software and that you can try out things with multiple servers without needing to buy multiple machines. But yes, that's one of the problems with "the cloud".
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June 14, 2012 at 10:15 am
Ooops... http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1315877-146-1.aspx
Gail Shaw
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June 14, 2012 at 1:42 pm
To clarify... The 'oops' was because I stuffed up there. I usually warn about the risks of restarting with a transaction rolling back, but seen so many cases recently where the '0% completed, estimated 0 seconds remaining' recovers instantly on a restart that I didn't bother.
Gail Shaw
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June 15, 2012 at 5:17 am
You know, it's a really sad state of affairs when the actions of a few bad posters start giving us enough of a reputation that someone has to post the following:
*** I did not set this server up it was dumped on me*** Please don't flame
June 15, 2012 at 5:58 am
Brandie Tarvin (6/15/2012)
You know, it's a really sad state of affairs when the actions of a few bad posters start giving us enough of a reputation that someone has to post the following:*** I did not set this server up it was dumped on me*** Please don't flame
Hi Brandie
IMHO this isn't directed specifically at ssc but at forums in general. I don't think we're as bad as this.
Cheers
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June 15, 2012 at 6:21 am
ChrisM@Work (6/15/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (6/15/2012)
You know, it's a really sad state of affairs when the actions of a few bad posters start giving us enough of a reputation that someone has to post the following:*** I did not set this server up it was dumped on me*** Please don't flame
Hi Brandie
IMHO this isn't directed specifically at ssc but at forums in general. I don't think we're as bad as this.
Cheers
Not so sure. I think we've metaphorically gang raped a few people for asking grossly ignorant or silly questions or getting argumentative. I think people have noticed. We really do need to be careful. This place has built into the powerhouse it is because it is the friendly place to go get help. We need to keep it that way.
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt
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SQL Server Execution Plans
SQL Server Query Performance Tuning
June 15, 2012 at 6:26 am
Grant Fritchey (6/15/2012)
ChrisM@Work (6/15/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (6/15/2012)
You know, it's a really sad state of affairs when the actions of a few bad posters start giving us enough of a reputation that someone has to post the following:*** I did not set this server up it was dumped on me*** Please don't flame
Hi Brandie
IMHO this isn't directed specifically at ssc but at forums in general. I don't think we're as bad as this.
Cheers
Not so sure. I think we've metaphorically gang raped a few people for asking grossly ignorant or silly questions or getting argumentative. I think people have noticed. We really do need to be careful. This place has built into the powerhouse it is because it is the friendly place to go get help. We need to keep it that way.
Missed it, haven't had much opportunity to lurk around here of late. I do hope it isn't as bad as you suggest. The worst I've seen of late is JC's flamevertising.
For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden
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