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Koen Verbeeck SSC Guru Points: 259105 More actions · Answer 1

A question for the more wise people here in the thread:

I may have found a copyright violation of a long time SQL Server MVP (not active on this forum as far as I can tell). The original blog post is written by someone I don't really know, but he appears to have written a fair amount of technical articles on SQL Server for Microsoft.

Small detail: the original blog post is 3 years old, the "copyright violating" blog post 2.5 years old.

(Not really sure if it is copyright violation or plagiarism. The structure of the blog post is the same, but all sentences are slightly rewritten).

What to do with it? Report it or leave it as it is?

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004353 More actions · Answer 2

Koen Verbeeck (6/11/2012)
A question for the more wise people here in the thread:
I may have found a copyright violation of a long time SQL Server MVP (not active on this forum as far as I can tell). The original blog post is written by someone I don't really know, but he appears to have written a fair amount of technical articles on SQL Server for Microsoft.
Small detail: the original blog post is 3 years old, the "copyright violating" blog post 2.5 years old.
(Not really sure if it is copyright violation or plagiarism. The structure of the blog post is the same, but all sentences are slightly rewritten).
What to do with it? Report it or leave it as it is?

Any chance of seeing the link?

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

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Koen Verbeeck SSC Guru Points: 259105 More actions · Answer 3

This one seems to be the original:

http://cm-bloggers.blogspot.com/2009/05/sql-server-2008-star-join-query.html

This one doesn't:

http://blog.sqlauthority.com/2009/12/04/sql-server-2008-star-join-query-optimization/

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 4

I had a suspicion that was who you were talking about. fyi, he's not an MVP any longer. He works for MS.

Also, this looks like the source

http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/1/0/01062E46-A7DD-4922-9740-C86249323477/SQLServer2008R2EnterpriseWhitepaper.docx

Published: April 2008

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

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Greg Edwards-268690 SSC-Insane Points: 20680 More actions · Answer 5

GilaMonster (6/11/2012)
I had a suspicion that was who you were talking about. fyi, he's not an MVP any longer. He works for MS.
Also, this looks like the source
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/1/0/01062E46-A7DD-4922-9740-C86249323477/SQLServer2008R2EnterpriseWhitepaper.docx
Published: April 2008

I see several familiar names, and ironically Paul has been onsite working on a project for us.

WayneS SSC Guru Points: 95460 More actions · Answer 6

Okay, so I've been pretty busy lately. And I just got back from going on the "SQL Cruise". Friday I was up to Philly for SQL Sat. And I get an email from one of my Threadizen buddies talking about my temp table / table var article. I didn't have time to respond, but I was really wondering what prompted it.

Today, I'm reading The Thread, and decided to go to this discussion thread to see if there was something new out there that I missed. And I found that what I missed was the article being re-published! :w00t::w00t::w00t::ermm:

Now I'm starting to feel embarrassed! Am I so out of it that I forgot it was being republished? I'm over a month behind in just reading the SSC daily newsletters, but surely I'd remember that. Timing wise, I was just thinking over the cruise that I need to find some time to update a few things in it that have changed, what with 2012 and Azure. And in thinking back, I can't even remember seeing an email about it being republished. So I checked my SSC folder, and what do I find? The email was sent while I was on the SQL Cruise, and I haven't gotten that caught up yet. Really bad timing. (And Steve, I'm not faulting you... it's just bad timing and things happen.)

But if you were wondering why I hadn't answered any of those posts... now you know the rest of the story.

Wayne
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server 2008
Author - SQL Server T-SQL Recipes

If you can't explain to another person how the code that you're copying from the internet works, then DON'T USE IT on a production system! After all, you will be the one supporting it!

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Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442467 More actions · Answer 7

WayneS (6/11/2012)
Okay, so I've been pretty busy lately. And I just got back from going on the "SQL Cruise". Friday I was up to Philly for SQL Sat. And I get an email from one of my Threadizen buddies talking about my temp table / table var article. I didn't have time to respond, but I was really wondering what prompted it.
Today, I'm reading The Thread, and decided to go to this discussion thread to see if there was something new out there that I missed. And I found that what I missed was the article being re-published! :w00t::w00t::w00t::ermm:
Now I'm starting to feel embarrassed! Am I so out of it that I forgot it was being republished? I'm over a month behind in just reading the SSC daily newsletters, but surely I'd remember that. Timing wise, I was just thinking over the cruise that I need to find some time to update a few things in it that have changed, what with 2012 and Azure. And in thinking back, I can't even remember seeing an email about it being republished. So I checked my SSC folder, and what do I find? The email was sent while I was on the SQL Cruise, and I haven't gotten that caught up yet. Really bad timing. (And Steve, I'm not faulting you... it's just bad timing and things happen.)
But if you were wondering why I hadn't answered any of those posts... now you know the rest of the story.

Sounds like you had lots of fun! Wish I could have been there on the SQLCruise! Maybe next year. Wait, I have a daughter going to ERAU, I won't have any money!

Koen Verbeeck SSC Guru Points: 259105 More actions · Answer 8

GilaMonster (6/11/2012)
I had a suspicion that was who you were talking about. fyi, he's not an MVP any longer. He works for MS.
Also, this looks like the source
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/1/0/01062E46-A7DD-4922-9740-C86249323477/SQLServer2008R2EnterpriseWhitepaper.docx
Published: April 2008

Thanks for that source. It apparently didn't show up in my Google search for star join query optimization.

Didn't notice he took the MVP label off his blog. I should pay more attention to details 🙂

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 9

The way I search for plagiarism/copyright violation is to take a random sentence out of a paragraph and google for that sentence (in quotes)

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

Koen Verbeeck SSC Guru Points: 259105 More actions · Answer 10

GilaMonster (6/11/2012)
The way I search for plagiarism/copyright violation is to take a random sentence out of a paragraph and google for that sentence (in quotes)

That wouldn't really have worked in this case, as each sentence is slightly altered.

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 11

Koen Verbeeck (6/11/2012)
GilaMonster (6/11/2012)
The way I search for plagiarism/copyright violation is to take a random sentence out of a paragraph and google for that sentence (in quotes)
That wouldn't really have worked in this case, as each sentence is slightly altered.

It did work. That's exactly how I found the word doc.

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

Koen Verbeeck SSC Guru Points: 259105 More actions · Answer 12

GilaMonster (6/11/2012)
Koen Verbeeck (6/11/2012)
GilaMonster (6/11/2012)
The way I search for plagiarism/copyright violation is to take a random sentence out of a paragraph and google for that sentence (in quotes)
That wouldn't really have worked in this case, as each sentence is slightly altered.
It did work. That's exactly how I found the word doc.

OK, I retract my previous statement 😀

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jcrawf02 SSC-Insane Points: 24198 More actions · Answer 13

Koen Verbeeck (6/11/2012)
GilaMonster (6/11/2012)
Koen Verbeeck (6/11/2012)
GilaMonster (6/11/2012)
The way I search for plagiarism/copyright violation is to take a random sentence out of a paragraph and google for that sentence (in quotes)
That wouldn't really have worked in this case, as each sentence is slightly altered.
It did work. That's exactly how I found the word doc.
OK, I retract my previous statement 😀

Koen must be using Siri...

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Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 173061 More actions · Answer 14

L' Eomot Inversé (6/8/2012)
... or lock your computer before leaving your desk - even in what you fondly believe to be a secure environment.

My secure environment used to be my house, all doors & windows shut & locked, while my SO was out of town. Then my cats learned how to use my laptop.

@Sigh. So much for secure. The only true security I have is to not plug it in and make sure the battery has been pulled.

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Revenant SSC-Forever Points: 42467 More actions · Answer 15

Brandie Tarvin (6/12/2012)
L' Eomot Inversé (6/8/2012)
... or lock your computer before leaving your desk - even in what you fondly believe to be a secure environment.
My secure environment used to be my house, all doors & windows shut & locked, while my SO was out of town. Then my cats learned how to use my laptop. . . .

They have it all figured out, don't they? You work hard, save your money, buy a place, and they just move in and owe it.

Now tell me, who is the smart one?