May 30, 2012 at 9:04 am
Brandie Tarvin (5/30/2012)
Grrr.I love my job, I really do. I work with great people and the company is awesome... But it annoys me that I don't have time anymore to really dig into things and learn new stuff.
I'd love to learn VB.Net and C#.Net but everything needs to be done "now." Every time I sit down to learn how to use the new SQL Features or how to program in new languages, I get interrupted by emergencies and new projects and then forget most of what I've been studying because I don't have a chance to learn it properly.
GAH. <headdesk> GAH.
SET RANT ON Brandie = OFF;
Thank you for letting me vent.
Microsoft claims that with Windows 8, you'll only use HTML 5 and Java for everything instead of VB & C# & J#, etc...
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May 30, 2012 at 9:10 am
Koen Verbeeck (5/30/2012)
dwain.c (5/30/2012)
Maybe we should start a new thread for oenophiles.We could call it the wine cooler thread!:-)
As long as there will also be an equivalent beer thread 🙂
I will follow both. 🙂
May 30, 2012 at 9:14 am
Stefan Krzywicki (5/30/2012)
Microsoft claims that with Windows 8, you'll only use HTML 5 and Java for everything instead of VB & C# & J#, etc...
Not quite -- these are front end tools and they are meant to cover the entire spectrum from smartphones to biug screens, but certainly not back ends and middleware. The only major Microsoft product threatened by extinction is Silverlight.
May 30, 2012 at 9:17 am
Revenant (5/30/2012)
Stefan Krzywicki (5/30/2012)
Microsoft claims that with Windows 8, you'll only use HTML 5 and Java for everything instead of VB & C# & J#, etc...Not quite -- these are front end tools and they are meant to cover the entire spectrum from smartphones to biug screens, but certainly not back ends and middleware. The only major Microsoft product threatened by extinction is Silverlight.
Huh, it was awhile ago that I'd seen this, but I remember it being in response to a question about Visual Studio, VB & C# for Windows 8.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
May 30, 2012 at 10:45 am
Stefan Krzywicki (5/30/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (5/30/2012)
Grrr.I love my job, I really do. I work with great people and the company is awesome... But it annoys me that I don't have time anymore to really dig into things and learn new stuff.
I'd love to learn VB.Net and C#.Net but everything needs to be done "now." Every time I sit down to learn how to use the new SQL Features or how to program in new languages, I get interrupted by emergencies and new projects and then forget most of what I've been studying because I don't have a chance to learn it properly.
GAH. <headdesk> GAH.
SET RANT ON Brandie = OFF;
Thank you for letting me vent.
Microsoft claims that with Windows 8, you'll only use HTML 5 and Java for everything instead of VB & C# & J#, etc...
Well, if MS manages to lead the world down that path it will be a catastrophe for everyone but the hardware manufacturers. Probably a catastrophe for them too when lots of their customers go bust because they can't write working apps any more.
On second thoughts, it should be a terrific boost for Linux and z/OS and z/VM and several others, because those parts of the world won't follow down that path.
Brandie, don't despair - if that happens you will only need to learn Java and the APIs for the 347,232,614 (actually, that may be an exageration) external functions you have to learn write anything bigger that "Hello World" in Java (and of course the whole .Net interface in its Java-visible form, plus HTML-5).
Tom
May 30, 2012 at 10:52 am
Revenant (5/30/2012)
Koen Verbeeck (5/30/2012)
dwain.c (5/30/2012)
Maybe we should start a new thread for oenophiles.We could call it the wine cooler thread!:-)
As long as there will also be an equivalent beer thread 🙂
I will follow both. 🙂
Me too. And there could be a spirits (alcoholic, not ghostly) thread as well.
Tom
May 30, 2012 at 11:12 am
Jack Corbett (5/29/2012)
For those not on tiwtter, just signed the papers for my new house. Went from no debt to hundreds of thousands, but in the long run it'll be great!Any of you New England folks are welcome to make a trip to NH this Saturday to help us move. For the next month I have 2 houses so I can even put up some travellers 😀
Pay for travel?
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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May 30, 2012 at 11:27 am
Too snarky?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1306465-334-1.aspx
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May 30, 2012 at 11:35 am
Stefan Krzywicki (5/30/2012)
Revenant (5/30/2012)
Stefan Krzywicki (5/30/2012)
Microsoft claims that with Windows 8, you'll only use HTML 5 and Java for everything instead of VB & C# & J#, etc...Not quite -- these are front end tools and they are meant to cover the entire spectrum from smartphones to biug screens, but certainly not back ends and middleware. The only major Microsoft product threatened by extinction is Silverlight.
Huh, it was awhile ago that I'd seen this, but I remember it being in response to a question about Visual Studio, VB & C# for Windows 8.
I've actually not seen that. I know when they announced windows 8, they left off .NET completely on the presentation. That prompted a lot of ID-10-T's to proclaim that MS was going to discontinue support for all of .NET. The reality is that MS can't get rid of .NET... not without putting the entire company in the crapper, there are way way too many 3rd party apps designed around .NET for it to happen on a dime like that.
May 30, 2012 at 11:38 am
venoym (5/30/2012)
Stefan Krzywicki (5/30/2012)
Revenant (5/30/2012)
Stefan Krzywicki (5/30/2012)
Microsoft claims that with Windows 8, you'll only use HTML 5 and Java for everything instead of VB & C# & J#, etc...Not quite -- these are front end tools and they are meant to cover the entire spectrum from smartphones to biug screens, but certainly not back ends and middleware. The only major Microsoft product threatened by extinction is Silverlight.
Huh, it was awhile ago that I'd seen this, but I remember it being in response to a question about Visual Studio, VB & C# for Windows 8.
I've actually not seen that. I know when they announced windows 8, they left off .NET completely on the presentation. That prompted a lot of ID-10-T's to proclaim that MS was going to discontinue support for all of .NET. The reality is that MS can't get rid of .NET... not without putting the entire company in the crapper, there are way way too many 3rd party apps designed around .NET for it to happen on a dime like that.
That was part of my reaction to it as well. Even if that's what one team is currently thinking, they'll get overruled before things are finalized.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
May 30, 2012 at 11:40 am
GilaMonster (5/30/2012)
Too snarky?http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1306465-334-1.aspx
No. If he can't read what he's been referred to he's beyond help. Just giving him the answers wouldn't be useful.
Tom
May 30, 2012 at 12:18 pm
L' Eomot Inversé (5/30/2012)
GilaMonster (5/30/2012)
Too snarky?http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1306465-334-1.aspx
No. If he can't read what he's been referred to he's beyond help. Just giving him the answers wouldn't be useful.
Well, I threw something in there to see how he'll respond. There is so much more to those questions than just throwing a rote answer at the interviewer. Anyone who can't debate, or elucidate upon, the answers doesn't know as much about SQL as (s)he's pretending to. IMHO, that is.
May 30, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Anyone looking for a DBA job in Louisville KY?
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
May 30, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (5/30/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (5/30/2012)
WheeHaw! Quantum computing, here we come!and the first article in that paragraph:
http://www.nature.com/news/not-quite-so-elementary-my-dear-electron-1.10471
Awesome! Thanks for posting this, I might have missed it otherwise.
I have the same feeling.
Learning the ezAPI API to control SSIS with .NET stands already a long time on my to-do list, but I just can't find the time to learn it.
Always busy with work, family, sessions to prepare for user group et cetera.
SQL 2012 didn't really make my life easier with all those pesky new features... 😀
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May 30, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Koen Verbeeck (5/30/2012)
Stefan Krzywicki (5/30/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (5/30/2012)
WheeHaw! Quantum computing, here we come!and the first article in that paragraph:
http://www.nature.com/news/not-quite-so-elementary-my-dear-electron-1.10471
Awesome! Thanks for posting this, I might have missed it otherwise.
I have the same feeling.
Learning the ezAPI API to control SSIS with .NET stands already a long time on my to-do list, but I just can't find the time to learn it.
Always busy with work, family, sessions to prepare for user group et cetera.
SQL 2012 didn't really make my life easier with all those pesky new features... 😀
If it was easy, our jobs would be much less stable.
edit: BTW, I like your pretty thorough replies re how to reuse SSIS package.
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