Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • GilaMonster (4/27/2012)


    Lynn, take care in the 'Accidental DBA' thread, check the OP's history.

    I remember. I just wanted to give some advice as I find myself in a similar position. Having worked both sides of the house, the other side is usually skeptical of what I may be able to offer.

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor (4/27/2012)


    Roy Ernest (4/27/2012)


    So Steve, the article I submitted that still needs to be edited wont come out in May at all. Maybe June 2nd week if I am lucky?

    Probably early June, maybe May. I took a glance at it and it looks pretty good. Your writing is getting better, less work for me πŸ™‚

    Thanks Steve... You have been helping me out pretty well in that area. Now a days when I write a sentence, I try to think about all your advice.

    -Roy

  • Nice hat, Roy 😎

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  • So two things.

    1) Who's heading to SQL Saturday in Phoenix? I know Steve's going and I'm looking forward to meeting him, any other threadizens? Oh, warning: I don't get along with 7 AM as a rule, I'll be along eventually.

    2) Friday humor. A discussion over one of our vendor apps, and this came from BUSINESS describing how they built it to ME! (Mind you, you've heard me vent about this piece of trash off and on for two years now).

    If you put an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of computers, one of them will design the perfect application.

    If you use 10,000 monkeys, your odds are not as good.

    I kept wanting to modify that but it's so perfectly balanced as is... Brightened my Friday at least.


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  • Evil Kraig F (4/27/2012)


    So two things.

    1) Who's heading to SQL Saturday in Phoenix? I know Steve's going and I'm looking forward to meeting him, any other threadizens? Oh, warning: I don't get along with 7 AM as a rule, I'll be along eventually.

    2) Friday humor. A discussion over one of our vendor apps, and this came from BUSINESS describing how they built it to ME! (Mind you, you've heard me vent about this piece of trash off and on for two years now).

    If you put an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of computers, one of them will design the perfect application.

    If you use 10,000 monkeys, your odds are not as good.

    I kept wanting to modify that but it's so perfectly balanced as is... Brightened my Friday at least.

    Having been in Arizona (Prescott to be exact) two weekends ago, not me. I can't afford a second trip so close together. Plus, I would probably be driving by myself, and that thought isn't to appealing at the moment.

    I do wish I could have made the trip, it would be nice to meet some other Threadizens.

  • Evil Kraig F (4/27/2012)


    If you put an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of computers, one of them will design the perfect application.

    If you use 10,000 monkeys, your odds are not as good.

    I think I have one of those (or my client does anyway)

    This kind of thing...

    Update Table1

    Set Table1.Column1 = Table2.Column2

    From Table1 Inner Join Table2 on Table1.Column1 = Table2.Column2

    Inner Join Table3 on Table2.Column3 = Table3.Column4

    Where CAST(RTRIM(LTRIM(Table1.Year)) AS Integer) = 2012

    I wish I could see look on vendor's face when they get my report.

    Gail Shaw
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  • GilaMonster (4/27/2012)


    Evil Kraig F (4/27/2012)


    If you put an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of computers, one of them will design the perfect application.

    If you use 10,000 monkeys, your odds are not as good.

    I think I have one of those (or my client does anyway)

    This kind of thing...

    Update Table1

    Set Table1.Column1 = Table2.Column2

    From Table1 Inner Join Table2 on Table1.Column1 = Table2.Column2

    Inner Join Table3 on Table2.Column3 = Table3.Column4

    Where CAST(RTRIM(LTRIM(Table1.Year)) AS Integer) = 2012

    I wish I could see look on vendor's face when they get my report.

    Gail, without really digging into this, isn't this just an expensive NOP?

  • Lynn Pettis (4/27/2012)


    Gail, without really digging into this, isn't this just an expensive NOP?

    Yup.

    On the plus side, SQL's smart enough not to log the update.

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  • GilaMonster (4/27/2012)


    Lynn Pettis (4/27/2012)


    Gail, without really digging into this, isn't this just an expensive NOP?

    Yup.

    On the plus side, SQL's smart enough not to log the update.

    Or maybe that's part of the minus side - if it wasted disc IO logging the non-update maybe people would notice something was wrong.

    Although if they have things like that in their system, and haven't noticed any effect, maybe not.

    Tom

  • L' Eomot InversΓ© (4/27/2012)


    GilaMonster (4/27/2012)


    Lynn Pettis (4/27/2012)


    Gail, without really digging into this, isn't this just an expensive NOP?

    Yup.

    On the plus side, SQL's smart enough not to log the update.

    Or maybe that's part of the minus side - if it wasted disc IO logging the non-update maybe people would notice something was wrong.

    Although if they have things like that in their system, and haven't noticed any effect, maybe not.

    I think he-who-is-without-clues has relatives all around the world working in various IT shops. πŸ˜›

  • This post, http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1291791.aspx is when it is nice to show stupid amounts of patience. It seems this person is finally starting to realize the importance of posting ddl and sample data. This is what Lynn is always hoping will happen with "he who cannot be clued".

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  • Sean Lange (4/27/2012)


    This post, http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1291791.aspx is when it is nice to show stupid amounts of patience. It seems this person is finally starting to realize the importance of posting ddl and sample data. This is what Lynn is always hoping will happen with "he who cannot be clued".

    Yes, yes it is. Too bad I will probably be long dead before he-who-is-without-clues ever gets a clue. πŸ˜›

  • I particularly liked his last comment.

    i am putting it in if condition,does that is the problem?

    I know exactly where the problem is...that big blob right between the keyboard and the chair.

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    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
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  • The Dixie Flatline (4/27/2012)


    Nice hat, Roy 😎

    Thanks... I had this hat for quite some time now. But I havent been around SSC lately. πŸ™ I have to make time to get back into SSC mode.

    -Roy

  • Lynn Pettis (4/27/2012)


    L' Eomot InversΓ© (4/27/2012)


    GilaMonster (4/27/2012)


    Lynn Pettis (4/27/2012)


    Gail, without really digging into this, isn't this just an expensive NOP?

    Yup.

    On the plus side, SQL's smart enough not to log the update.

    Or maybe that's part of the minus side - if it wasted disc IO logging the non-update maybe people would notice something was wrong.

    Although if they have things like that in their system, and haven't noticed any effect, maybe not.

    I think he-who-is-without-clues has relatives all around the world working in various IT shops. πŸ˜›

    Why is everybody so afraid to say his name?

    Just say it already: VOLDEMORT

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