Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • L' Eomot InversΓ© (4/25/2012)


    jcrawf02 (4/25/2012)


    Jack Corbett (4/25/2012)


    love seeing what y'all are reading. Because I'm cheap I'm going through the classics on my kindle. Currently reading my way through most of Dickens' books.

    Oh Dear Lord, don't waste your time. Maybe on A Tale of Two Cities, although that's kinda boring in places.

    Look up Ben Franklin's autobiography, that was interesting. Let's see, what else, the autobiography of Benvenuto Cellini; the journals of Lewis and Clark; Jack London's stuff (Call Of The Wild/White Fang); Einstein's theories of relativity and gravitation; Kipling's Jungle Book; Count of Monte Cristo;Shakespeare;

    Again, project Gutenberg is your friend. It has 232 Mark Twain texts available for download in ebook formats; some of course are duplicates, but I think that most of his work is there.

    Oh, and I like Dickens. Already read White Fang and Jungle Book. The Sherlock Holmes books, and thinking about Count of Monte Cristo.

    I've read the main Twain books a few times, but might revisit them.

    Not a big fan of biography although I do read some.

  • Grant Fritchey (4/25/2012)


    Another topic shift:

    WHOOP! I'm getting to publish my article on catastrophic data loss wherein I get to call companies out by name! Yippee! Includes one link to my favorite, a manager tells the staff to skip production backups just before a major change to the production topology resulding in data loss and a one week service outage. WHOOOOOP!

    By the way, want to give yourself constant shivers? Go read this site[/url]. It's horror stories for data professionals.

    Congrats. Sounds like a fun one.

  • Nested trans is certainly an idea...

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • GilaMonster (4/25/2012)


    Yet another topic shift...

    If anyone's willing to offer suggestions, I'm looking for examples of two things:

    Query optimisation/query execution myths (for a blog post series). Things like implicit conversions always cause table scans, subqueries are always slower than joins, etc, indexes enforce and guarantee physical storage order, etc Stuff that's blatantly not true that people just keep repeating.

    Common misunderstandings (for a PASS abstract). Areas where people get caught because they draw incorrect conclusions from what they're seeing (example here would be something like adding a WHERE <identity column> > 0 to the where clause because it produces a seek in the execution plan rather than the scan that was there before)

    Thanks

    Let me clarify the second request...

    Stuff in the query engine that just doesn't seem to logially do what people think they do. Session tentativly titled "When is a seek not a seek, and other strange query behaviours"

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • I know that some of us have perhaps gotten a bit forceful when asking for additional information regarding problems that have been posted, but the questions in question have been fairly vague and therefor difficult to answer.

    What I am curious about is why are so many of the newer people posting questions so unwilling to provide the information necessary to actually provide a decent answer to their question? And this isn't just about he-who-has-no-clues, it seems to becoming more common in general.

    And it seems they are also more adamant about doing it their way with no desire to learn about alternative solutions.

    Or am I the only one the feels this way?

  • Jack Corbett (4/25/2012)


    Grant Fritchey (4/24/2012)


    Jack Corbett (4/24/2012)


    Grant Fritchey (4/24/2012)

    Oh, no. You didn't watch Luke & Laura on General Hospital? I used to race home from high school for that one.

    Ooh, you must be an OLD DBA as well as a ScaryDBA if you were in high school for Luke and Laura. I was in elementary school when that was going on.

    I'll be beating you later.

    Only if you can catch me and at your age, I'm not sure you can πŸ˜€

    Even with your short legs?

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
    _______________________________________________
    I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
    SQL RNNR
    Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
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  • Lynn Pettis (4/25/2012)


    I know that some of us have perhaps gotten a bit forceful when asking for additional information regarding problems that have been posted, but the questions in question have been fairly vague and therefor difficult to answer.

    What I am curious about is why are so many of the newer people posting questions so unwilling to provide the information necessary to actually provide a decent answer to their question? And this isn't just about he-who-has-no-clues, it seems to becoming more common in general.

    And it seems they are also more adamant about doing it their way with no desire to learn about alternative solutions.

    Or am I the only one the feels this way?

    You're not alone. It comes down to level of effort and that they think they can get exactly what they want without first helping themselves.

    Entitlement

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
    _______________________________________________
    I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
    SQL RNNR
    Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
    Learn Extended Events

  • GilaMonster (4/25/2012)


    Yet another topic shift...

    If anyone's willing to offer suggestions, I'm looking for examples of two things:

    Query optimisation/query execution myths (for a blog post series). Things like implicit conversions always cause table scans, subqueries are always slower than joins, etc, indexes enforce and guarantee physical storage order, etc Stuff that's blatantly not true that people just keep repeating.

    Common misunderstandings (for a PASS abstract). Areas where people get caught because they draw incorrect conclusions from what they're seeing (example here would be something like adding a WHERE <identity column> > 0 to the where clause because it produces a seek in the execution plan rather than the scan that was there before)

    Thanks

    Does this mean that you're getting back to blogging? Your backlog of items to finish is done? Your masters thesis? (I didn't know your 1yr sabbatical from blogging was over yet - and I for one have really missed it! :-D)

    Wayne
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server 2008
    Author - SQL Server T-SQL Recipes


    If you can't explain to another person how the code that you're copying from the internet works, then DON'T USE IT on a production system! After all, you will be the one supporting it!
    Links:
    For better assistance in answering your questions
    Performance Problems
    Common date/time routines
    Understanding and Using APPLY Part 1 & Part 2

  • SQLRNNR (4/25/2012)


    Lynn Pettis (4/25/2012)


    I know that some of us have perhaps gotten a bit forceful when asking for additional information regarding problems that have been posted, but the questions in question have been fairly vague and therefor difficult to answer.

    What I am curious about is why are so many of the newer people posting questions so unwilling to provide the information necessary to actually provide a decent answer to their question? And this isn't just about he-who-has-no-clues, it seems to becoming more common in general.

    And it seems they are also more adamant about doing it their way with no desire to learn about alternative solutions.

    Or am I the only one the feels this way?

    You're not alone. It comes down to level of effort and that they think they can get exactly what they want without first helping themselves.

    Entitlement

    entitlement and a lack of understanding on what is actually needed to solve the problem. i think some of the people who lack the ddl and sample data and actually post it after we ask dont quite realize whats going on. he who shall not be mentioned is the oppisite, i think he just wants us to do the work for him.


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  • capn.hector (4/25/2012)


    SQLRNNR (4/25/2012)


    Lynn Pettis (4/25/2012)


    I know that some of us have perhaps gotten a bit forceful when asking for additional information regarding problems that have been posted, but the questions in question have been fairly vague and therefor difficult to answer.

    What I am curious about is why are so many of the newer people posting questions so unwilling to provide the information necessary to actually provide a decent answer to their question? And this isn't just about he-who-has-no-clues, it seems to becoming more common in general.

    And it seems they are also more adamant about doing it their way with no desire to learn about alternative solutions.

    Or am I the only one the feels this way?

    You're not alone. It comes down to level of effort and that they think they can get exactly what they want without first helping themselves.

    Entitlement

    entitlement and a lack of understanding on what is actually needed to solve the problem. i think some of the people who lack the ddl and sample data and actually post it after we ask dont quite realize whats going on. he who shall not be mentioned is the oppisite, i think he just wants us to do the work for him.

    Well he-who-is-without-clues doesn't seem to understand that we can't do his work for him if he doesn't show what we need. Unless we just happen to pull the solution out of you-know-where.

  • Hi, Lynn.

    Just... walk... away.

    Don't look back again. Delete all those threads from your notification list.

    Don't look at it and it will go away. πŸ˜‰

    __________________________________________________

    Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. -- Friedrich Schiller
    Stop, children, what's that sound? Everybody look what's going down. -- Stephen Stills

  • "If you want to unserstand(sic) what's happening in Western (USA, UK, France, etc) society/politics today read 1984, Animal Farm, and Fahrenheit 451. Plus a good dose of Kafka, Collins' The Path to Freedom, The Man who was Thursday and The Flying Inn. Maybe one of Clifford Simak's more pessimistic novels too. "

    Tom, I was curious if you had ever read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley? Lightweight compared to Kafka, but eerily prescient for something written in 1931.

    __________________________________________________

    Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. -- Friedrich Schiller
    Stop, children, what's that sound? Everybody look what's going down. -- Stephen Stills

  • The Dixie Flatline (4/25/2012)


    Hi, Lynn.

    Just... walk... away.

    Don't look back again. Delete all those threads from your notification list.

    Don't look at it and it will go away. πŸ˜‰

    No, no it won't. I will see that he posted and be drawn to the flame like a moth. I am doomed! DOOMED, I say! πŸ˜›

  • Lynn Pettis (4/25/2012)


    The Dixie Flatline (4/25/2012)


    Hi, Lynn.

    Just... walk... away.

    Don't look back again. Delete all those threads from your notification list.

    Don't look at it and it will go away. πŸ˜‰

    No, no it won't. I will see that he posted and be drawn to the flame like a moth. I am doomed! DOOMED, I say! πŸ˜›

    Anytime you see his name on any post, just shut down your computer and go take a walk.

    Do or do not. There is no try.

    Now I'm going to take my own advice and start ignoring your posts ranting about him. πŸ˜‰

    __________________________________________________

    Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. -- Friedrich Schiller
    Stop, children, what's that sound? Everybody look what's going down. -- Stephen Stills

  • The Dixie Flatline (4/25/2012)


    Lynn Pettis (4/25/2012)


    The Dixie Flatline (4/25/2012)


    Hi, Lynn.

    Just... walk... away.

    Don't look back again. Delete all those threads from your notification list.

    Don't look at it and it will go away. πŸ˜‰

    No, no it won't. I will see that he posted and be drawn to the flame like a moth. I am doomed! DOOMED, I say! πŸ˜›

    Anytime you see his name on any post, just shut down your computer and go take a walk.

    Do or do not. There is no try.

    Now I'm going to take my own advice and start ignoring your posts ranting about him. πŸ˜‰

    Well, before you do, I think he is smarter than all of us. He seems to be able to solve all his own problems with no real help from us.

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