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  • January 16, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    #1434307

    Chad Crawford (1/16/2012)

    WayneS (1/16/2012)

    So, what kind of laptop do you have?

    Slacks M-Th, Levis on Friday and the weekend.

    I guess I should find it amusing...

    ... but my English doesn't help me here. :blush:

    Help!

    -- Gianluca Sartori

  • January 16, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    #1434310

    Gianluca Sartori (1/16/2012)

    Chad Crawford (1/16/2012)

    WayneS (1/16/2012)

    So, what kind of laptop do you have?

    Slacks M-Th, Levis on Friday and the weekend.

    I guess I should find it amusing...

    ... but my English doesn't help me here. :blush:

    Help!

    Dress pants Monday through Thursday, jeans Friday through Sunday.

  • January 16, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    #1434312

    WayneS (1/16/2012)

    Chad Crawford (1/16/2012)

    WayneS (1/16/2012)

    So, what kind of laptop do you have?

    Slacks M-Th, Levis on Friday and the weekend.

    cute. got'cha beat... jeans all week

    Even better - no pants all week

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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  • January 16, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    #1434313

    SQL Kiwi (1/16/2012)

    Gianluca Sartori (1/16/2012)

    Also, I don't find 2012 SSMS to be slow at all, even in a VM. I must admit that my laptop is a very fast machine though.

    That must have been tough for you to admit, well done :rolleyes:

    I was exaggerating of course, it's fine in use, but can be noticeably slower than 2008 SSMS to start the very first time after a reboot. Aaron Bertrand has a big thing about it IIRC.

    :hehe: No, the tough part was paying for it. :hehe:

    -- Gianluca Sartori

  • January 16, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    #1434314

    SQL Kiwi (1/16/2012)

    Gianluca Sartori (1/16/2012)

    Also, I don't find 2012 SSMS to be slow at all, even in a VM. I must admit that my laptop is a very fast machine though.

    That must have been tough for you to admit, well done :rolleyes:

    I was exaggerating of course, it's fine in use, but can be noticeably slower than 2008 SSMS to start the very first time after a reboot. Aaron Bertrand has a big thing about it IIRC.

    How does that compare when installing the app (ssms tools) onto SSD?

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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  • January 16, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    #1434315

    Gianluca Sartori (1/16/2012)

    Chad Crawford (1/16/2012)

    WayneS (1/16/2012)

    So, what kind of laptop do you have?

    Slacks M-Th, Levis on Friday and the weekend.

    I guess I should find it amusing...

    ... but my English doesn't help me here. :blush:

    Help!

    What covers your lap?

    Pants or NoPants?

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
    _______________________________________________
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    SQL RNNR
    Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
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  • January 16, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    #1434316

    SQLRNNR (1/16/2012)

    Gianluca Sartori (1/16/2012)

    Chad Crawford (1/16/2012)

    WayneS (1/16/2012)

    So, what kind of laptop do you have?

    Slacks M-Th, Levis on Friday and the weekend.

    I guess I should find it amusing...

    ... but my English doesn't help me here. :blush:

    Help!

    What covers your lap?

    Pants or NoPants?

    D'oh!

    I knew I shouldn't have asked...

    -- Gianluca Sartori

  • January 16, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    #1434321

    Lynn Pettis (1/16/2012)

    Gianluca Sartori (1/16/2012)

    Chad Crawford (1/16/2012)

    WayneS (1/16/2012)

    So, what kind of laptop do you have?

    Slacks M-Th, Levis on Friday and the weekend.

    I guess I should find it amusing...

    ... but my English doesn't help me here. :blush:

    Help!

    Dress pants Monday through Thursday, jeans Friday through Sunday.

    What are pants? I telecommute.:-D

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  • January 16, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    #1434323

    Lynn Pettis (1/13/2012)

    Jeff Moden (1/13/2012)

    Sean Lange (1/13/2012)

    Jeff Moden (1/13/2012)

    Sean Lange (1/13/2012)

    I have to say this whole situation has left me feeling extremely reluctant to post on just about anything for fear that I come across as "one of those", or maybe I am one which would be even worse. It is unfortunate that the well was poisoned. This site has been a fantastic learning opportunity for myself as well as many others.

    Don't fall for the trap of the troll. You, good sir, and many others that feel like you do, actually feel that way because you're one of the good ones. Compare the number of people you've helped (even if some don't thank you) and who have thanked you profusely to the uninformed accusations of a blatherskite troll who probably hasn't helped a soul in his life.

    The next rain will clear the well. You just have to be careful not to piss in your own well. 😉

    Thanks Jeff. I make it a point not to piss in the river I drink from, but on those rare occasions where I have no choice I do it downstream. 😛

    I have no intentions of leaving or anything just saying how the whole situation rubbed me.

    If you really want to see something that should have made someone leave, you should see the "wonderful" posts I got on the discussion for the running totals/Quirky Update articles I've written.

    Glad to hear it rubbed you the wrong way... Like I said, things like what that troll said will always rub good people the wrong way. I bit my lip clean through when I read that thread.

    And, yeah... I was worried about you leaving because of that bit of diatribe. Thanks for confirming that you're not. You would be sorely missed.

    +1 Regarding what Jeff has said. I have been in simular situations but I stuck it out as well. It is hard at times, but in the end it really comes down to the people that you help.

    Thanks for the kind words all. I was never even involved in the original thread but I suppose I was kind of sucked in by the troll.

    Long live the mighty Troll Killers!!!

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  • January 16, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    #1434324

    Roy Ernest (1/16/2012)

    Change of topic... I got my second part of my Audit series published here... Yay..!!!!

    And I got a A+ review for the year 2011 from my CTO. So thrilled 🙂

    Grats!! Nice work!!!

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  • January 16, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    #1434339

    SQL Kiwi (1/16/2012)

    Gianluca Sartori (1/16/2012)

    Also, I don't find 2012 SSMS to be slow at all, even in a VM. I must admit that my laptop is a very fast machine though.

    That must have been tough for you to admit, well done :rolleyes:

    I was exaggerating of course, it's fine in use, but can be noticeably slower than 2008 SSMS to start the very first time after a reboot. Aaron Bertrand has a big thing about it IIRC.

    I did some tests:

    1) SSMS 2012 loads in 32 seconds the first time and 4 seconds on subsequent runs

    2) SSMS 2008R2 loads in 4 seconds the first time and 2 seconds on subsequent runs

    It's a bit like comparing apples to oranges (2012 is on a VM on a spin disk and 2008 R2 is on physical HW with SSD drive) but I see your point.

    -- Gianluca Sartori

  • January 16, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    #1434364

    Gianluca Sartori (1/16/2012)

    SQL Kiwi (1/16/2012)

    Gianluca Sartori (1/16/2012)

    Also, I don't find 2012 SSMS to be slow at all, even in a VM. I must admit that my laptop is a very fast machine though.

    That must have been tough for you to admit, well done :rolleyes:

    I was exaggerating of course, it's fine in use, but can be noticeably slower than 2008 SSMS to start the very first time after a reboot. Aaron Bertrand has a big thing about it IIRC.

    I did some tests:

    1) SSMS 2012 loads in 32 seconds the first time and 4 seconds on subsequent runs

    2) SSMS 2008R2 loads in 4 seconds the first time and 2 seconds on subsequent runs

    It's a bit like comparing apples to oranges (2012 is on a VM on a spin disk and 2008 R2 is on physical HW with SSD drive) but I see your point.

    Hmm... Gianluca, could you - would you - please describe your laptop in more detail? Aside from type and speed of the processor, how much memory, size of the HD and its rpms, I would also like to hear whether you are using a defragmenter, say DisKeeper, that places frequently used programs into the most advantageous spot on the drive (meaning that longer used programs get preference over new ones).

    I would really appreciate getting this info.

  • January 16, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    #1434389

    I'll reserve my opinion on this but thought I'd give everyone a heads up...

    http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout

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  • January 16, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    #1434391

    Jeff Moden (1/16/2012)

    I'll reserve my opinion on this but thought I'd give everyone a heads up...

    http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout

    Wow

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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  • January 17, 2012 at 1:59 am

    #1434454

    Wiki's not the only site. Reddit's going dark tomorrow, so's Mozilla.

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