January 9, 2012 at 11:52 am
GilaMonster (1/9/2012)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (1/9/2012)
jcrawf02 (1/9/2012)
GilaMonster (1/9/2012)
Ninja's_RGR'us (1/9/2012)
There was a time I loved fiction, got any books to recommend?Yes
http://sqlinthewild.co.za/index.php/2012/01/01/2011-book-review/
http://sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/2011-the-year-in-books.aspx
We both have 2010 posts as well if you feel like hunting
I threw this to Steve last week too, Jo Walton has some pretty good reviews, so I would bet you could get some good material by culling this list:
http://www.tor.com/features/series/ok-where-do-i-start-with-that
Thanks for the reminder. Nice list, though I don't like the "alphabetical" ordering on the main page.
I picked up Endymion, the 3rd book in the Hyperion series (Dan Simmons) on a recommendation from Paul Randal. Enjoying it so far.
BTW, the Steve Jobs bio is great. Isaacson is a great writer, Jobs comes across as both amazing and a complete idiot in the book, sometimes on the same page.
I'm going to need a new bookshelf after I finish going through that list. Wait, I already need a new bookshelf. I'm going to need 2, and somewhere to put them.
That is a lot of books.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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January 9, 2012 at 12:05 pm
SQLRNNR (1/9/2012)
That is a lot of books.
That's my study, all those shelves (other than the one on the far left) is completely full with books piled on top of others and sometimes in front. There's another smaller bookshelf in the lounge that stores my RPG books and old university textbooks, there's a pile on the dining room table and a smaller pile in the bedroom.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
January 9, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (1/9/2012)
Jack Corbett (1/9/2012)
Roy Ernest (1/9/2012)
I see lots of comments regarding post counts... Does everybody have a target? I have never thought about it at all.When I get time post some thing, Thats it. 🙂
When I was running up my post count I tried to have 10 posts a day. Not counting posts to the THREAD, follow-ups to my initial posts, and marking posts as duplicates. I was in the top 5 pretty much all the time then. Now I post when I have time and are motivated, or not that often. I need to get back to it because it spurred blog posts and learning.
I do target 10 a day, to real posts, not this thing. It's a way of just ensuring I am contributing to the site regularly. Easy to drop off and forget about it.
For you, a quota makes sense.
I'd even count your replies in threads on Editorials as being more productive than social. I don't count mine that way. Some might, but I don't. But you definitely should. For that matter, you posting on The Thread is keeping your community happy and involved, and that's a valid PR/marketing/customer-retention activity on your part, business-wise.
Add in the obvious benefits to the "content" part of the site that come about through referals on The Thread (links to "Can anyone help this guy?" kind of stuff), article suggestions here, and so on, that the site gets from this thread existing, and everything here is "valid", "productive" material. Not immediately in some cases (pants jokes, et al), but in the long-term, it keeps people coming back, keeps the site in their attention et al. It's like any other sort of PR work with no immediate benefit to the business - generation of goodwill and re-impression of name-recognition are benefits to any brand.
More materially, every time someone signs on to catch up with The Thread, it probably does count for ad impressions, or whatever other stat is kept for that kind of thing.
So, from a PR/marketing perspective, The Thread isn't a distraction from SSC. It's one of the best "get the customers involved" PR campaigns I've ever seen.
Most businesses would kill to have this kind of "thumb on the pulse" of key contributors/customers.
(Yeah, trust me to write way too many words on such a simple subject, and to view it from a sales/PR/marketing/ads viewpoint.)
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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January 9, 2012 at 12:09 pm
GilaMonster (1/9/2012)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (1/9/2012)
jcrawf02 (1/9/2012)
GilaMonster (1/9/2012)
Ninja's_RGR'us (1/9/2012)
There was a time I loved fiction, got any books to recommend?Yes
http://sqlinthewild.co.za/index.php/2012/01/01/2011-book-review/
http://sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/2011-the-year-in-books.aspx
We both have 2010 posts as well if you feel like hunting
I threw this to Steve last week too, Jo Walton has some pretty good reviews, so I would bet you could get some good material by culling this list:
http://www.tor.com/features/series/ok-where-do-i-start-with-that
Thanks for the reminder. Nice list, though I don't like the "alphabetical" ordering on the main page.
I picked up Endymion, the 3rd book in the Hyperion series (Dan Simmons) on a recommendation from Paul Randal. Enjoying it so far.
BTW, the Steve Jobs bio is great. Isaacson is a great writer, Jobs comes across as both amazing and a complete idiot in the book, sometimes on the same page.
I'm going to need a new bookshelf after I finish going through that list. Wait, I already need a new bookshelf. I'm going to need 2, and somewhere to put them.
Bookshelves? What are ... oh! Right! What I used to use before I started using an e-reader! 😀
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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January 9, 2012 at 12:18 pm
GSquared (1/9/2012)
GilaMonster (1/9/2012)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (1/9/2012)
jcrawf02 (1/9/2012)
GilaMonster (1/9/2012)
Ninja's_RGR'us (1/9/2012)
There was a time I loved fiction, got any books to recommend?Yes
http://sqlinthewild.co.za/index.php/2012/01/01/2011-book-review/
http://sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/2011-the-year-in-books.aspx
We both have 2010 posts as well if you feel like hunting
I threw this to Steve last week too, Jo Walton has some pretty good reviews, so I would bet you could get some good material by culling this list:
http://www.tor.com/features/series/ok-where-do-i-start-with-that
Thanks for the reminder. Nice list, though I don't like the "alphabetical" ordering on the main page.
I picked up Endymion, the 3rd book in the Hyperion series (Dan Simmons) on a recommendation from Paul Randal. Enjoying it so far.
BTW, the Steve Jobs bio is great. Isaacson is a great writer, Jobs comes across as both amazing and a complete idiot in the book, sometimes on the same page.
I'm going to need a new bookshelf after I finish going through that list. Wait, I already need a new bookshelf. I'm going to need 2, and somewhere to put them.
Bookshelves? What are ... oh! Right! What I used to use before I started using an e-reader! 😀
I was going to comment that it would probably be cheaper and more productive to buy an e-reader than to keep going with bookshelves and "real" books.
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January 9, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Jack Corbett (1/9/2012)
I was going to comment that it would probably be cheaper and more productive to buy an e-reader than to keep going with bookshelves and "real" books.
Got an iPad with Kindle, iBooks and a pdf reader. I have a fair few books on there. I still prefer paper most of the time.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
January 9, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Jack Corbett (1/9/2012)
GSquared (1/9/2012)
GilaMonster (1/9/2012)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (1/9/2012)
jcrawf02 (1/9/2012)
GilaMonster (1/9/2012)
Ninja's_RGR'us (1/9/2012)
There was a time I loved fiction, got any books to recommend?Yes
http://sqlinthewild.co.za/index.php/2012/01/01/2011-book-review/
http://sqlskills.com/BLOGS/PAUL/post/2011-the-year-in-books.aspx
We both have 2010 posts as well if you feel like hunting
I threw this to Steve last week too, Jo Walton has some pretty good reviews, so I would bet you could get some good material by culling this list:
http://www.tor.com/features/series/ok-where-do-i-start-with-that
Thanks for the reminder. Nice list, though I don't like the "alphabetical" ordering on the main page.
I picked up Endymion, the 3rd book in the Hyperion series (Dan Simmons) on a recommendation from Paul Randal. Enjoying it so far.
BTW, the Steve Jobs bio is great. Isaacson is a great writer, Jobs comes across as both amazing and a complete idiot in the book, sometimes on the same page.
I'm going to need a new bookshelf after I finish going through that list. Wait, I already need a new bookshelf. I'm going to need 2, and somewhere to put them.
Bookshelves? What are ... oh! Right! What I used to use before I started using an e-reader! 😀
I was going to comment that it would probably be cheaper and more productive to buy an e-reader than to keep going with bookshelves and "real" books.
I like the idea of an eReader and I use eBooks for some things, but I worry about long-term use. I'm currently moving data from my old 3.5" floppies using a usb connected drive because they don't put those drives in computers any more. I just ordered a usb zip drive from eBay because I have some old zip disks from an old job and I want to see what's on them before I get rid of them. The worst is my old Jaz drive. SCSI only. I'd need PCI slots in a computer to put in a SCSI card and they don't make either any more. A SCSI to usb adapter is around $120.
Do I want to be scrambling like that in 10 or 15 years to try and save some books I love? Will there be a way to read the formats even if I can move the files and still access them? Are there still limits on where you can read the files? I'm not worried about not being able to read them because society collapses and there's no electricity. I'm worried society will keep chugging along and I won't be able to read books I've purchased because my reader broke and there's no way to access those files any more.
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January 9, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Jack Corbett (1/9/2012)
GSquared (1/9/2012)
Bookshelves? What are ... oh! Right! What I used to use before I started using an e-reader! 😀I was going to comment that it would probably be cheaper and more productive to buy an e-reader than to keep going with bookshelves and "real" books.
LOL, I've gone almost entirely digital the last 3 years. I still get a few paper books here and there, and honestly I don't care which format I have. I enjoy the act of reading and the stories. I prefer the iPhone, only because it's convenient. I can read for 3 minutes when I'm out and about, and I always have a book. And more importantly, another book.
Before that, we had the tech books shelf:
And the bedroom one:
We have about this many in the living room, and in each of the kids' rooms as well, plus boxes in the basement. I'm starting to give away bunches to the library now.
January 9, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Aaron Aardvark (1/9/2012)
Brandie Tarvin (1/9/2012)
Try changing your screen name. Maybe that'll work. @=)Am I winning yet?
hahaha! Very nice.
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January 9, 2012 at 1:14 pm
We have probably ten banker's boxes in the garage with books, probably 50 inside on a small bookshelf, various copies stashed in the bedside tables/bookshelf. I would love to go all e-reader, but have to keep buying textbooks for school, and don't really have time to read for fun anyway. I've been using google books on my phone for that, there's enough free stuff to keep me busy.
Anybody else read Buonvenuto Cellini's autobiography? Contemporary of Michelangelo? Pretty good read, interesting to hear about all the "current" events that affected him. Shame that so little of his work still exists, I'd love to see more of the stuff he describes.
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January 9, 2012 at 1:21 pm
GilaMonster (1/9/2012)
Jack Corbett (1/9/2012)
I was going to comment that it would probably be cheaper and more productive to buy an e-reader than to keep going with bookshelves and "real" books.Got an iPad with Kindle, iBooks and a pdf reader. I have a fair few books on there. I still prefer paper most of the time.
I have several bookshelves in the house filled with books (from young reader/kids books all the way through reference,adult, etc). I have even more e-books. I don't have time to read the quantity that Gail does.
I like having both the physical book and the e-reader. Sometimes the paper is better. Sometimes being able to carry 10 books or more in minimal weight and space is far better.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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January 9, 2012 at 1:21 pm
I joke about it, but I also have more books than I have shelf-space, and not all from pre-ereader days. I still buy RPG books hard-copy (of course), and technical books are often better in a paper format for the same reasons. Plus plenty of books that I want aren't available in electronic format, either due to being out-of-print altogether and not available except used, or because of licensing issues with e-publishers.
Add in that I find a lot of OCA errors in some e-books, and don't like reading through those, and I expect my overloaded bookshelves to get worse before they get better.
But that won't stop me from joking about it. Won't even slow me down. 😛
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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January 9, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (1/9/2012)
I'm starting to give away bunches to the library now.
We have several boxes (think 4u server boxes) full of books that won't fit on the shelves. We have begun giving books away to charity and libraries as well.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events
January 9, 2012 at 1:27 pm
I am buying computer books and other books with shelf life of lettuce for Kindle. Books that I want to keep I still buy in printed editions.
The sort-of problem is that many books I would buy for Kindle are still not available in that format.
January 9, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Revenant (1/9/2012)
Ninja's_RGR'us (1/9/2012)
L' Eomot Inversé (1/9/2012)
Here is a connect item that I've raised as a result of the discussion about one of Paul's QotDs. I hope it will gather some votes from denizens of the thread.Voted.
Me, too.
The helpful people at Microsoft have closed it as duplicate. Since it isn't a duplicate I've asked them to open it again and look at it. The thing they think it is a duplicate of is a request to restore the capability to store IEEE 754-1985 NaN and Infinities that was in SQLServer 2000 but removed from SQLServer 2005 (well, you can still store them provided you import them from 2005 but then you get an error wny time you read them), so in fact the only thing it has in common with my request is the identifier "IEEE 754" in the title; and the features I'm asking for weren't in any IEEE 754 document when that other request was raised (back in 2006), so it's no surprise it doesn't mention them. I suspect that they looked at the title, ignored every word in the title except "IEEE-754" (they even ignored the "-2008"), and jumped immediately to the conclusion that because there was another connect item that mentioned IEEE 754 this must be a duplicate, without looking at the content of either request.
Tom
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